Now, I want love and children, but they are nowhere to be seen.
Nothing personal, but, uh, I understand why. You still look like your hippy mother. Get feminine, guy!
Posted on 02/09/2009 6:28:04 PM PST by nickcarraway
As a successful playwright this woman should have the world at her feet. So why, at 36, does she feel bitterly unfulfilled?
Though I never thought I would be saying this, being a free woman isn't all it's cracked up to be. Is that the rustle of taffeta I hear as the suffragettes turn in their grave? Very possibly.
My mother - a film-maker - was a hippy who kept a pile of dusty books by Germaine Greer and Erica Jong by her bedside. (Like every good feminist, she didn't see why she should do all the cleaning.) She imbued me with the great values of choice, equality and sexual liberation.
As a result, I fought with my older brother and won, and at university I beat the rugby lads at drinking games. I was not to be messed with. Inner truth: Zoe Lewis has come to yearn for marriage and motherhood
Inner truth: Zoe Lewis has come to yearn for marriage and motherhood
But, at nearly 37, those same values leave me feeling cold. Now, I want love and children, but they are nowhere to be seen.
When I was growing up, I was led to believe by my mother and other women of her generation that women could 'have it all', and, more to the point, that we wanted it all. To that end, I have spent 20 years ruthlessly pursuing my dream of being a successful playwright. I have sacrificed all my womanly duties and laid it all at the altar of a career. And was it worth it? The answer has to be a resounding no.
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Another birth control victim.
Note to any man with 50ft of this woman...run away!
Now, I want love and children, but they are nowhere to be seen.
Nothing personal, but, uh, I understand why. You still look like your hippy mother. Get feminine, guy!
Reminds me of a story I saw in my armory...
A man asked a woman to marry him. The woman said "No." So the man lived happily ever after. The end.
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I feel sadness for her and women like her. They have been conned, and unfortunately, we have only one life to live.
Guilty!
Ooopps. Wrong thread.
The nice thing is they’re allowed to “change their minds” at a moment’s notice—actually no notice is needed.
Sarah Palin has it all....why could she not?
Not quite. Our little friend Zoe spent 20 years ruthlessly pursuing someone else's idea of feminism, hiding inside a career as a playwright.
Not only can no one have everything, Zoe is going to wind up with pitifully little.
I know quite a few 60-year-old women who look younger and healthier than her.
Read the article.
These women have destroyed countless lives beyond their own.
These women can rot in hell.
Is that a rosary around her neck? They aren’t jewelry, sweetie.
Unbelievable. I remember that young lady and she had no interest whatsoever in such things.
Today my marriage and my husband is the second most meaningful, fulfilled (as well as ever changing) accomplishment and gift of my entire life. The first is my relationship with my Lord.
until GOD shockingly intervened (forgot the God part above)
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Rosary around the neck is the ultimate cry for help.
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That's just heresy to the feminist movement.
Dear Zoe. Where should I start with such a screwed up mind. It isn’t because you are stronger than men, deary. Maybe you could read a Miss Manners book or something from a charm school. It also sounds like you are a user who wants a man to fulfull more of your own dreams. What do you have to give?
Sadly, she also looks much older than her age. Meanwhile, my 42 year old wife has been asked several times by strangers if this baby (our fourth) is her first pregnancy.
I don’t get why people on this thread are reading an article where the woman says feminism is a sham that screwed up her life and react to it as if she is saying “Feminism is great, and I don’t need a man!”
> Nothing personal, but, uh, I understand why. You still look like your hippy mother. Get feminine, guy!
What kind of guy wants to shack up with a feminist hootch that can out-drink a rugby team? Particularly one who looks like someone found shipwrecked on a beach?
“I don’t get why people on this thread are reading an article where the woman says feminism is a sham that screwed up her life and react to it as if she is saying “Feminism is great, and I don’t need a man!””
I know. I was torn between, “I told you so,” and Nelson’s “Ha, ha,” and finger point.
I give this woman credit for candidly admitting that she screwed up. That’s a lot more than most of her peer group ever manage.
> It’s one thing to give up your career and have children before it’s too late with the right man, but it’s another issue altogether if you haven’t yet found that man. Because, as my generation have discovered to their cost, men don’t appear to like strong women very much.
She still doesn’t get it.
I married a very strong woman with red hair. My Dad married one, too. My Grand-dad found and married an extremely strong and fiery woman, also with red heir. And my brother married a powerful German girl with blonde hair an blue eyes and a steely temperment.
Nope, nothing wrong with strong women at all: it is genetically necessary for strong men to have strong women to marry so that they can produce strong offspring. That’s why we do.
Only a strong man should marry a strong woman: a weakling man will be hen-pecked. That is Nature’s way of keeping the Gene Pool neat and tidy.
Frilly women are nice to look at, but if they aren’t strong then only weakling males ought to marry them.
So the author’s problem isn’t that.
IMO at 37 she should easily be able to find a man, so it isn’t her age. So what is it?
1) She looks like a lesbian. She should fix that as a matter of urgent priority.
2) She seems to think she’s entitled to a strong man. As we are in short supply, she may have to settle for hen-pecking a weakling. She might have fun, but he’ll be miserable!
But can’t she have it all? No: that was the first Feminist lie. Sometimes, you can’t even have enough of what you need.
Humph. I’m 42, too, and I’m going to have to color my hair as soon as this baby (our 9th) is born, or people will think he’s Anoreth’s!
To be fair, everything except her nose could be fixed without surgery.
I think the lifestyles advocated by Hef & Larry have screwed up as many if nor more people than the ones pushed by the feminists.
Men really aren't "entitled" to these things either. When God is left out of the mix, no one is happy.
The article suggests she has something of an attitude problem, starting with her describing herself as a “successful playwright” when it looks like she’s had one successful play and a lot of years on the dole.
I’ve never noticed that men don’t like strong, intelligent, educated women. I have noticed that men don’t like obnoxious women who can’t discuss anything but themselves. Just sayin’ ...
As a mother myself, I love this picture.
Well, I’m sure I’ve said this already, but...congratulations!
My wife has some gray hair, too, but I guess people just don’t notice because her face is so young-looking. And I am worried that people will think my lovely daughter is the new baby’s mom. She’s only 12 but she’s very already as tall as her mom and can easily be mistaken for a teenager.
I’m sure I’ve congratulated you, too ... yours is due pretty soon, isn’t it?
Anoreth will be 18 before the baby is born, so at least she’s a legitimate age to have a child.
Well said.
>>the woman says feminism is a sham that screwed up her life and react to it as if she is saying “Feminism is great, and I don’t need a man!”
I dunno, she might be saying feminism is a sham, but she still clings to it in the article:
“I am extremely capable, I really don’t need a man. Seriously - it scares me how much I don’t need a man. But that doesn’t mean I don’t want one. I am lonely, and terrified of being alone.”
Well said! With this woman, it's STILL all about ME, ME, ME! She's only looking at what a man could do for HER, which, at this point, is be a sperm donor, not what SHE could bring to a loving relationship.
Actually she does say in the article that she doesn’t need a man, but that she wants one.
These women like to say that men can’t handle strong, independent women. Think Maureen Dowd’s last book. First off, a women doesn’t need to be career driven to be strong. That’s her first mistake. History is full of strong women who were wives and mothers and never had a career. So, that line of crap is just that, crap. Millions of women have careers and marriage and children. She is just looking for someone else to blame for her failure.
Hugh Hefner and Gloria Steinem cheerfully kept each other in business for decades. Beginning with “A Bunny’s Tale” when she went undercover as a Bunny waitress in one of his clubs.
They were both all about the commitment-free lifestyle.
I had a similar experience. I had always planned to be the childless aunt, who swept in with presents for all my little nieces and nephews and was loved by all because of my exciting life which involved lots of travel. I was going to be the one every wishes they were because I was independent. You know the drill. That was me right up until the day I looked into the eyes of my newborn son and knew that he owned me for the rest of my life. Felt the same way with the birth of my daughter.
Some women may think I surrendered, and in a way I did. I gave up thinking that anything else would be acceptable. I gave up thinking that I didn’t need a husband, a family and a home. I gave up the grind of working to concentrate on taking care of the three people in my life that needed me most.
This women allowed herself to believe that it was money, fame and glory which would fulfill her. She has had the successful career and probably had people fawning over her and using her for their own purposes. And there’s the rub.
If it wasn’t her, it would be someone else. As long as you are on top, the world loves you, but in the world, the stars are a dime a dozen.
As a mother, you are always important, always needed, always unique in your place. No one else can fill it. That’s what she’s really missing.
She still only gets part of it.
Her self-love is overpowering here. She assumes the problem is that no man is worthy of her. She has no intention of making any concessions or sacrifices. I really don’t get the impression she has ever had a half-way decent relationship ever. I sense a really obnoxious, entitled attitude that that clenched-fist of a face is probably the most visible expression.
I’m guessing most of us wouldn’t need to spend more that ten minutes in her presence to realize that the problem is her personality. And yes, looks matter too. She is the ugliest thirty-seven I’ve ever seen.
Yes, she’s due on the 27th, but may be coming much sooner...we may be inducing on Friday or Monday. Either will be a nice anniversary present for my folks, who will celebrate their 40th on Saturday.
I’m trying to come up with a short statement of why there’s no hope for the author (and her friends) but nothing seems better than what you said. They’re totally self-centered. It puzzles me that people who are clearly unhappy and dissatisfied would persist in saying they don’t need anyone else. If they were really self-sufficient, they’d be happy as they are.
I think part of their problem is expressed in the statement, “I don’t need a man,” where “a man” is a concept, rather than a person. I don’t need “a man,” either. I need my husband, and my children need their father. His earning a salary, and the household activities he accomplishes, are things I could do and have done. He could do laundry and sweep floors, if I didn’t. However, those are just the tip-of-the-iceberg aspects of being married for 20 year and having 9 children.
No offense, but you’re taking her out of context. She’s talking about not needing a man to get through her everyday life, not about needing a man for fulfillment, which was what I was referring to and what feminists have meant when they say stuff like “A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.”
Good luck! I’d like to have mine on my father’s birthday, June 4.
Thanks!
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