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Kadima wins; Labor crashes
Ynet News ^ | 2-10-09 | Ynet Staff

Posted on 02/10/2009 12:11:09 PM PST by Victory111

Kadima wins elections, but will it form the next government? Kadima and its Chairwoman, Tzipi Livni, are the big winners of the 2009 general elections, according to a Rafi Smith exit poll commissioned by Ynet, with Likud finishing a disappointing 2nd.

Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu delivered at crunch time to become Israel's third-largest party, while Ehud Barak's Labor party sustained a harsh blow. Exit polls by Israel's major television channels showed similar results

(Excerpt) Read more at ynetnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; kadima; likud; livni
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1 posted on 02/10/2009 12:11:09 PM PST by Victory111
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To: Victory111

Israel might crash and burn after all. After Iran nukes them I guess the US will end missile defense


2 posted on 02/10/2009 12:12:29 PM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: Victory111

I cannot believe that the Israeli people have chosen to place themselves in such grave danger. Do they not know that on this election day Obama has chosen to kiss the boots of Syria?


3 posted on 02/10/2009 12:14:14 PM PST by Camel Joe ("All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others"- The Pigs)
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To: Victory111

Wait, so Livni won, Netanyahu lost, I thought he was winning


4 posted on 02/10/2009 12:15:02 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Victory111

A sad development indeed. Bebe Netanyahu is the man they at this moment in their history. Anything less and they will flinch in their stand against Iran. That may give Ahmadinejad all the time he needs to complete and deploy his nukes.


5 posted on 02/10/2009 12:15:32 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Victory111

There seems to be no end to the bad news today.


6 posted on 02/10/2009 12:16:22 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: GeronL

Any Israeli followers know how this will play out for the Coalition Government?


7 posted on 02/10/2009 12:16:30 PM PST by rbmillerjr (2/6/09 The Day the Republican Party died.....Reagan's Birthday nonetheless)
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To: Victory111

Maybe the Isreali exit polls suck as much as American exit polls.


8 posted on 02/10/2009 12:18:20 PM PST by hattend (Sarah Palin has run a fishing business, a city, and a state. All Obama has done is run his mouth.)
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To: patriot preacher

Isn’t this the more conservative hardline party that won? To the right of Netanyahu?


9 posted on 02/10/2009 12:19:34 PM PST by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: Victory111

John Kerry won the exit polls, too.


10 posted on 02/10/2009 12:19:41 PM PST by Buck W. (BHO: Selling hope, keeping the change.)
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To: Victory111

Kadima 28 + Labor 14 = 42
Likud 26 + Yisrael Beiteinu 16 = 42

This should be interesting.


11 posted on 02/10/2009 12:20:38 PM PST by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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To: rbmillerjr

She has three months to come up with a coalition, if she doesn’t, she is out. My Mom is pissed, she wanted Netanyahu to win, he would have been much stronger. But I guess people in Israel want to give up some land for peace, those hippie peace activists over there are as insane as they are here.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 12:21:22 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: hattend

Maybe the Isreali exit polls suck as much as American exit polls.

Maybe they have their version of ACORN over there


13 posted on 02/10/2009 12:21:57 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Victory111

If true, the Israeli citizens just put the stamp of approval on two lost wars, all while rockets still punctuate the second of the two.

I guess they don’t care.


14 posted on 02/10/2009 12:22:15 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Pretending the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in suspension.)
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To: B Knotts

I guess that the Labor coalition will be looking for the Israeli “Susan Collins”?


15 posted on 02/10/2009 12:22:37 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: B Knotts

“Kadima 28 + Labor 14 = 42
Likud 26 + Yisrael Beiteinu 16 = 42

This should be interesting.”

Yes, very. This thing is a long way from being decided.


16 posted on 02/10/2009 12:23:18 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Victory111
WOW!! I really thought BeBe was going to win. Apparently the majority of Israeli voters are as dumb as 53% of the voters here. It looks like the wimps, wussies, and Muzzie A$$ kissers are in charge everywhere now. Today was great day for Marx and Mohammed
17 posted on 02/10/2009 12:27:47 PM PST by skully (If I was a RINO; I'd kill myself...better then having to wallow in my indecisive mediocrity)
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To: traderrob6

Wow...That’s going to make for some interesting horse trading to form a government...Some of those small parties are really going to be in power positions now, no matter who’s coalition takes over.


18 posted on 02/10/2009 12:28:19 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Beware, world! I haz camera!)
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Exit polls shows Kadima ahead

Channel 1 sees 30 seats for Kadima, but the right-wing block has an advantage over the center-left.

Globes correspondent10 Feb 09 22:06

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000424717&fid=942

Voting in Israel's close-fought general election ended at 10pm this evening. Among the major parties, the Channel 1 exit poll gives 30 of the Knesset's 120 seats to Kadima, led by Tzipi Livni, 28 seats to Likud, led by Benjamin Netanyahu, 14 to Israel Beiteinu, led by Avigdor Lieberman, 13 to Labor, led by Ehud Barak, and 9 to Shas, led by Eli Yishai.

The Ynet-Smith poll gives 28 to Kadima, 26 to Likud, 16 to Israel Beiteinu, 14 to Labor, and 10 to Shas.

The exit poll results are something of an upset, since in pre-election polls Likud led all the way, albeit with a steadily reducing lead.

Although it looks as though Kadima will be the largest single party, as things stand it is nevertheless expected that it will be Benjamin Netanyahu who will be asked to try to form a government, since the right-wing block has a clear lead over the center-left block to which Kadima belongs. The result could however lead to a constitutional crisis, since as the largest party Kadima will claim that Tzipi Livni has the right to form a government.

The projected result is a catastrophe for Labor, the worst in the party's history. Israel Beiteinu too has gained far fewer seats than the pre-election polls indicated that it would.

19 posted on 02/10/2009 12:30:46 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: B Knotts

Can the Religious Orthodox parties ally with LiKud and Yisrael Beiteinu?


20 posted on 02/10/2009 12:30:52 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: Victory111

Just friggin wonderful.
Unbelievable.


21 posted on 02/10/2009 12:31:22 PM PST by arealconservativeforachange (There are too many Republicans in the Republican Party.)
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To: skully

“Today was great day for Marx and Mohammed”

Well said, but sad.


22 posted on 02/10/2009 12:32:09 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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Livni may not be able to form gov't due to large right-wing bloc
By JPOST.COM STAFF

With voting stations officially closed, exit polls at 10 p.m. suggested that Kadima would win the general elections on Tuesday.

However, due to the dramatic rise in support of the Likud and Israel Beiteinu, it seemed that Likud chairman Binyamin Netanyahu would have a better chance than Kadima head Tzipi Livni of forming the next coalition.

The Channel 1 poll showed Kadima winning 30 mandates, and Likud trailing closely behind with 28 seat. Israel Beiteinu was predicted to earn 14 mandates, and Labor was slated to get 13 seats.

The Channel 2 poll narrowed the gap between first and second place, showing Kadima with 29 mandates, and Likud with 27 seats. Israel Beiteinu was predicted to earn 15 mandates, and 13 seats.

Channel 10 followed the same pattern, predicting Kadima with 30 mandates, Kadima with 28 seats, Israel Beiteinu with 15 mandates, and Labor with 13 seats.

Once the final results of the election are known, President Shimon Peres will begin a round of consultations with party leaders, to hear who they are recommending for prime minister. In the past, the task of forming a coalition has been given to the head of the largest party. But election legislation gives Peres wide leeway, and he can grant the first opportunity to the party leader who he judges has the best chance in forming a government, even if that party did not earn the most mandates in the election.

23 posted on 02/10/2009 12:32:34 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: rbmillerjr

The right wing and religious parties will hold the majority, as long as they don’t align with Livni. If they stick together this can be good for Israel, because Netanyahu was skewing toward the middle. It seems that Netanyahu started to lose traction when he unilaterally moved Moshe Feiglin from the 20th or so seat on the Likud slate, which he won in the primary, to 37th or so.

Likud; Israel our Home; Shas; United Torah Judaism; Jewish Home; and Ichud Leumi are expected to take more than 60 of the 120 seats collectively.


24 posted on 02/10/2009 12:32:59 PM PST by Piranha
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To: rbmillerjr

See post 19 and 23


25 posted on 02/10/2009 12:35:10 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: LikeLight

Kadima is to the left of Netanyahu’s Likus. But the Right could form a stronger coalition and govern.


26 posted on 02/10/2009 12:36:12 PM PST by SolidWood ("NO on the stimulus package" Governor Palin said.)
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To: GeronL

Israeli Jews are beginning to vote like American Jews.


27 posted on 02/10/2009 12:36:22 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Victory111

Exit polls showed Shimon Peres winning against Netanyahu in the 95 election. They were wrong then, they could be wrong now.

Or the exit polls are right and G-d is preparing us for the End Times.


28 posted on 02/10/2009 12:36:26 PM PST by Jeb21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Piranha

Or, Lieberman’s Israel Our Home party could align with Livni because they want to secularize Israeli society. In that case, Livni would be able to form the coalition.


29 posted on 02/10/2009 12:36:38 PM PST by Piranha
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To: Victory111
I feel confident that Livni will embrace Obama’s views on Israel.
30 posted on 02/10/2009 12:37:43 PM PST by MBB1984
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the figure of 10 for Shas. Looks like they will hold the balance.

Also, as you say, this is much more of a catastrophe for Labor than it is for Likud. Sharon founded Kadima, and it might have been the death of Likud, but they went so far left after Sharon’s stroke that it looks as if it may be the death of Labor instead. A ton of leftists must have voted for Kadima instead of Labor, but the conservative voters were not taken in.


31 posted on 02/10/2009 12:37:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Retired Greyhound

No, Israeli Jews have NO faith in their government so they don’t care. Apathy is a terrible sin, and it has consequences (just like elections, as Israel will soon find out).


32 posted on 02/10/2009 12:38:07 PM PST by Jeb21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Retired Greyhound

its pretty sad


33 posted on 02/10/2009 12:38:08 PM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: skully

Some Israelis know that Obama will be “even-handed” in the dispute and that Jones et al.blame Israel for the continuing violence. Sothey choose the status quo,


34 posted on 02/10/2009 12:38:18 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Victory111

The exit polls in Israel ARE NOT RELIABLE!!!! Just a few months ago they had Livni beating Mofaz by about 10%, and the vote counting went on all night until she won by 1% (and even that was questionable due to vote cheating).
I still think Netanyahu will win — we should know sometime this evening.


35 posted on 02/10/2009 12:38:59 PM PST by Dave346
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To: LikeLight

No! The Kadima are a “centrist/moderate” party. Likud is the Right-of-center responsible party.


36 posted on 02/10/2009 12:39:50 PM PST by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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To: Cicero

sounds like it might be a good coalition though


37 posted on 02/10/2009 12:40:41 PM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: Victory111
We chose Obama and the Israelis chose Livni.

"It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising the sovereignty. Usurpation is then an easy attainment, and an usurper soon found. The people themselves become the willing instruments of their own debasement and ruin." -James Monroe

38 posted on 02/10/2009 12:41:32 PM PST by americanophile
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To: Jeb21

He is.


39 posted on 02/10/2009 12:42:36 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Victory111

What is going on in the world?


40 posted on 02/10/2009 12:45:24 PM PST by austinaero ((More Bark, Less Wag))
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To: anniegetyourgun

O My people! Their oppressors are children, and women rule over them.
O My people! Those who guide you lead you astray and confuse the direction of your paths. - Is. 3:12


41 posted on 02/10/2009 12:45:29 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: patriot preacher
No! The Kadima are a “centrist/moderate” party. Likud is the Right-of-center responsible party.

Thanks for the correction. I don't have these players down.

42 posted on 02/10/2009 12:51:18 PM PST by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: SolidWood

Thanks for clearing up my confusion.


43 posted on 02/10/2009 12:51:45 PM PST by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: Victory111

These are only the exit polls, right?


44 posted on 02/10/2009 12:55:50 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, Repub's: This is an entrepreneurial insurgency)
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To: JSDude1
Can the Religious Orthodox parties ally with LiKud and Yisrael Beiteinu?

I don't know, but I don't see why not.

45 posted on 02/10/2009 12:57:32 PM PST by B Knotts (Worst economy since the Third Punic War)
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To: Cicero
Thanks for the figure of 10 for Shas. Looks like they will hold the balance.

They could. A right wing coalition can easily be put together. If Livni gets the first chance, it'll be interesting.

46 posted on 02/10/2009 12:58:21 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Victory111

This is why the Jews have so often fallen from the grace of God . When it is important , they do not listen to Him.
Something has happened in the last 100 yrs. They have gone from prosperous to utter victims , to brave and indomitable heroes and heroines , to clueless liberal doves courting extinction. The former unity has dissolved into a morass of liberal crappola here in the US ,and hesitant confusion at home in Israel . Maybe they no longer believe that Jehova is watching them? He is .....


47 posted on 02/10/2009 1:01:12 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

G-d endorses political candidates?


48 posted on 02/10/2009 1:04:50 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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Smaller party and coalition results.

According to Channel 1, the right-wing bloc won 63 Knesset seats and the left wing 57; Channel 2 predicted 64 for the right and 56 for the left; and Channel 10, like Channel 1, predicted 63 and 57.

The three exit polls, on average, found Shas to be the fifth largest party with 9-10 seats, followed by United Torah Judaism with 5, Meretz 4-5, Chadash 4, Jewish Home 3-4, National Union 3, Balad 2-3 and Ra'am Ta'al with 2-4 mandates.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1233304741384&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

49 posted on 02/10/2009 1:07:39 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Victory111

It sounds like Israel may be wandering through the desert again.


50 posted on 02/10/2009 1:11:54 PM PST by Walmartian
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