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The Collapse of the Israeli Left, the Return of Likud
Commentary Magazine ^ | February 10, 2009 | David Hazony

Posted on 02/10/2009 2:29:06 PM PST by Jbny

As soon as we’ve caught our breath regarding Kadima’s hairline win (according to exit polls only), the real story that emerges is the utter gutting of the Israeli Left, and the return of Likud.

Of the four major parties today, three of them are Likud and its spin-offs: Kadima was founded by Ariel Sharon and is mostly made up of former Likudniks; Yisrael Beitenu’s chairman cut his teeth as the head of the Likud’s central committee.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coalition; elections; exitpolls; israel; kadima; likud

1 posted on 02/10/2009 2:29:07 PM PST by Jbny
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To: Jbny

The right picked up seats, but may have split their vote for the top spot, allowing the more liberal chick to win (according to exit polls).


2 posted on 02/10/2009 2:31:58 PM PST by Canedawg (An acute case of ODS)
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To: Jbny

Is this the party that likes to DEFEND?


3 posted on 02/10/2009 2:32:38 PM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: Canedawg
she may have won...but it takes 61 seats to form the government...she will not be able to...tops 57 seats (so the experts say) Likud can make 63-64 seats....
4 posted on 02/10/2009 2:34:08 PM PST by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: Jbny

Looks like the lib woman won. So where do you get you info.?


5 posted on 02/10/2009 2:34:19 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Canedawg
I thought that Israel had a parliamentary form of government and this was a party vote. How could voters "split their vote?"
6 posted on 02/10/2009 2:34:38 PM PST by kabar
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To: Jbny

apparently she aint got it in the bag yet, the military votes make a big chunk and are outstanding and are expected to go Bibi’s way.


7 posted on 02/10/2009 2:37:46 PM PST by sunmars
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To: Canedawg

But the more conservatives will not join a coalition with her.
So if the conservatives stay together alls well that ends well


8 posted on 02/10/2009 2:37:55 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Jbny

Just curious - is Ariel Sharon still alive. I hadn’t heard that he died. Last I knew he was in a coma.


9 posted on 02/10/2009 2:39:52 PM PST by eCSMaster
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To: orfannkyl

the exit polls in israel have got it way wrong before and wait for the army votes.


11 posted on 02/10/2009 2:43:38 PM PST by sunmars
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Michael Medved’s brother in Israel reports that the Likud and right wing parties have at least 64 votes, and that Peres will ask Bibi to form the new government, not Livni.

Israel will be denied its first neo-socialist feminist lesbian Prime Minister. What a shame!

Israel has a Parliamentary system, and the winner will have to bring along a coalition to reach 61 votes.

This will likely be Netanyahu. The right wing block has increased in size tom 62-64.

Michael Medved is reporting that Israeli president Shimon Peres, will likely ask Netanyahu to form the next government.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 2:46:48 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: eCSMaster

Just curious - is Ariel Sharon still alive. I hadn’t heard that he died. Last I knew he was in a coma.

Ariel Sharon is technically still alive, on machines, he had a massive stroke years ago and never woke up, so he is being kept alive on breathing machines, etc


13 posted on 02/10/2009 2:52:20 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Cincinna; Canedawg; Jbny

How bad is she? Is she Obama-bad or just McCain-bad compared to Netanyahu? I thought I read she was a former Mossad agent- what happened?


14 posted on 02/10/2009 2:55:28 PM PST by philled ("I prefer messy democracy to the stability of tyrants." -- Howar Ziad, Iraqi Ambassador to Canada)
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To: kabar

The top spot being the position Bibi was running for.


15 posted on 02/10/2009 3:01:42 PM PST by Canedawg (An acute case of ODS)
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To: Jbny; M. Espinola
I just head a local talk show here in Oregon. The host was talking to Caroline Glick of the Jerusalem Post. It was her stated view that exit polls are notoriously bad in Israel. She also stated that Livni ran a great campaign and Netanyahu's campaign was dragged down by errors. Glick is obviously worried that Israel has elected another very weak coalition government.

She was of the opinion that Israelis are self-deluded and live in a imaginary world populated by Peace Niks. Glick was very upset. These events happened in a flash. She was railing about Obama and Iran. It appears to her that America has very weak allies in the World. The future is obviously at risk.

Voters everywhere lack the attention span of eight graders.

16 posted on 02/10/2009 3:03:35 PM PST by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: philled

Kadimah is the party Sharon founded mainly with Likud members he took with him joined by some prominent supporters from Labor. Tzipi is basically Likud except she’s tries to give the impression she’s all things to all people to get votes. If she actually swings left many of her main people like Mofaz would return to the Likud. No centre party has succeeded in Israel in becoming permanent because they always fly apart.

The old left Labor was decimated and the hard left Meretz, which once was a major force, has gone down to four seats, which means only two seats from the entire country and two seats from the Mapam Kibbutzes.

The main difference between Likud and Kadimah now is that Tzipi is hostile to the religious parties extortions and that strikes a big chord among many Israelis.


17 posted on 02/10/2009 3:14:33 PM PST by idov
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To: Cincinna

Is Tzipi really a homosexual?


18 posted on 02/10/2009 3:37:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Jbny
The Labor Party collapsed and Meretz has practically disintegrated. Israel has moved Right.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 02/10/2009 3:54:14 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The collapse of the Left in Israel is really the big news here.

Similar to the collapse of the Socialists in France.

Will it be permanent? We can only hope.


20 posted on 02/10/2009 4:12:30 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: little jeremiah

Google it. She dresses like one, and looks like one.


21 posted on 02/10/2009 4:13:34 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you'd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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They didn't collapse, just went for a little swim


22 posted on 02/10/2009 4:14:10 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: idov

Ladima and Livni are Centrists, not Center Rightists. Third Way, haflway Socialist, halfway capitalist,like Blair and Clinton has seen its heyday, and is over. That goes for BHO as well. Jus5 be patient... his day of reckoning will come too.


23 posted on 02/10/2009 4:16:11 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * JINDAL* PALIN * CANTOR 2012)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Sorry, meant to include this, from Women in Green, with the poster.

Dear Friends,

Menachem Ussishkin, one of the leaders and founders of the Zionist movement, President of the 20th Zionist Congress, said, among many other strong statements about our right to this Land: "WHEN THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL WILL REDEEM THE LAND OF ISRAEL, THE LAND OF ISRAEL WILL REDEEM THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL."

Today, Tuesday, February 10th, we in Israel are going to the polls to vote for a new leadership.

Some people are still wavering as to whom to vote for.

At a time when internal and external enemies have only one agenda: taking away from us the Land of Israel; shrinking Israel back to its 1948 borders and create a Arab Jihadist terror state in Judea and Samaria in order to destroy the State of Israel; it is clear that we, in our vote, must focus on the issue of the Land of Israel and we must make sure to elect as many Land of Israel Knesset members as possible.

Women in Green call upon all to vote for the party that has the most proud Jewish Zionist patriotic leaders. Leaders, religious and non religious, who do not fear to tell the left, the Arabs and the world that the entire Land of Israel belongs to the People of Israel based on the Torah of Israel.

May Hashem give the People of Israel the wisdom to oust the Left and install a Jewish government that is true to our heartfelt ideals of Eretz Yisrael to Am Yisrael based on Torat Yisrael.

With Love for Israel,

Nadia Matar - Anita Finkelstein
Women in Green

24 posted on 02/10/2009 4:16:32 PM PST by SJackson (most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it, M Sanger)
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To: Cincinna
The collapse of the Left in Israel is really the big news here.

Considering the fact that Labour had near total control for the first three decades of Israel's history, and were indeed considered "moderate" in '48 compared to some of the other parties goes to show how far Israel has come.

25 posted on 02/10/2009 4:16:33 PM PST by Clemenza (Red is the Color of Virility, Blue is the Color of Impotence)
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To: Cincinna

The newest article on FR about the election says Netanyahu won, I hope this is true.


26 posted on 02/10/2009 4:27:02 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Jbny

The same will happen here once the Messiah’s “security” policies result in dead Americans.


27 posted on 02/10/2009 5:15:47 PM PST by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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To: Jbny; All

Yisrael Beitenu holds all the cards. They most likely will go with Likud even though they refused to commit before.


28 posted on 02/10/2009 5:29:32 PM PST by dervish (speechless, tagless, sick over porkulus)
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To: Jbny

For the sake of Israeli national survival, the Likud must pull off a victory, even it it means forming a coalition.


29 posted on 02/10/2009 6:03:17 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: kabar
How could voters "split their vote?"

There is a separate ballot for Prime Minister. Therefore, you could vote for the Labor candidate for Prime Minister, and the Likud party in the knesset.

30 posted on 02/10/2009 7:21:11 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: little jeremiah

Bibi! Yes!!!


31 posted on 02/10/2009 8:46:55 PM PST by sheikdetailfeather (I will never stop listening to Rush Limbaugh.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

He won for sure or you’re just hoping too?

Can you IMAGINE if we had a president like him~???


32 posted on 02/10/2009 8:50:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: KeyLargo
Looks like the lib woman won. So where do you get you info.?

Michael Medved mentioned tonight that the calling of Livni as winner was based on exit polls, which do not include the military (a huge percentage of the vote) because the army votes seperately.

33 posted on 02/10/2009 9:22:31 PM PST by denydenydeny (People in dictatorships long for truth while pampered, decadent people in the West long for myth.)
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To: BlackVeil

They are going to have a coalition goverment.


34 posted on 02/10/2009 9:33:16 PM PST by kabar
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To: Jbny

She will head, but in truth the conservatives will hold the real power by the numbers.


35 posted on 02/11/2009 3:41:39 AM PST by Biggirl (GO UCONN!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Feckless

...And end up sinking the Messiah’s ship.


36 posted on 02/11/2009 3:43:54 AM PST by Biggirl (GO UCONN!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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