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Forbes Rates Chicago 3rd Most Miserable City
cbs2chicago.com ^ | Feb. 10, 2009

Posted on 02/10/2009 9:26:36 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

CHICAGO (CBS) ― Citing harsh weather, high sales taxes, and public corruption, Forbes Magazine named Chicago the third most miserable city in the country in its 2009 survey.

Forbes list ranked Chicago more miserable than Buffalo, Detroit, and even Flint, Mich., the former auto manufacturing town whose gloom was immortalized in Michael Moore's "Roger and Me."

The city boasts being the hometown of President Barack Obama, a leading contender for the 2016 Summer Olympics and an impressive record for the Cubs last year, Forbes points out.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbs2chicago.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; evil; miserable

1 posted on 02/10/2009 9:26:36 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Number 1? Camden NJ?


2 posted on 02/10/2009 9:27:44 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

how can they beat Detroit?

they have been trying really hard


3 posted on 02/10/2009 9:29:01 PM PST by GeronL (please stand by...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But other than those details it’s okay


4 posted on 02/10/2009 9:31:28 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: GeronL

With this past year, Chicago has surpassed Detroit’s exportation rate of both crime and despair. I think I remember reading somewhere that Detroit’s looking for stimulus funding to regain their previous export margin.


5 posted on 02/10/2009 9:32:57 PM PST by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: GeronL

Have not been to Chicago for a few years. For it to be rated worse than Detroit must mean it has degraded at an astonishing rate in that time. Detroit is by my estimation a complete and total wreck on almost any measure one could care to use.


6 posted on 02/10/2009 9:34:42 PM PST by TCats
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To: Renderofveils
Do you mean Emigration?
7 posted on 02/10/2009 9:36:39 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats
No, it's a play on Jim Rome's joke; Detroit's two biggest exports are crime and despair.
8 posted on 02/10/2009 9:39:21 PM PST by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Actually, If I’m not mistaken former Senator Obama, was ‘supposedly’ born in Hawaii, started learninig goofy marxicist ideoligy in New York, and landed himself in Chicago, (Which has been courppted for like, ‘forever’).

But I digress, what do I know, except that Obama was a former CORN attourney (SP), citing just the other day how banks were not being honest with thier records, and yet this fooltard was one of the representative that forced banks to do the bidding of ACORN and the like. I think it was Jefferson, or some other founding father, that said “We get the government we elect”. I’d like to propose that if you know nothing about politics, or more importantly, if you have never paid a dime in taxes (not due to an imcapacitation beyond Your control), Maybe you should’nt be allowed to vote? elstwise we get a welfare state?

Oh yea, label me racist...


9 posted on 02/10/2009 9:42:30 PM PST by ChetNavVet (Build It, and they won't come!)
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To: Renderofveils

OK, makes sense now. Didn’t know the joke (One that is not really a joke but reality).


10 posted on 02/10/2009 9:42:39 PM PST by TCats
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Coming to a city near you?


11 posted on 02/10/2009 9:57:18 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: TCats

This is ludicrous. Chicago is still a wonderful place to live in and visit. I have lived here for 45 yrs except for two in Detroit. There is no comparison between these cities and Chicago on any serious point. Of course, the weather is not for the weak.

Avoiding the Murder neighborhoods is not hard and I raised a wonderful family here and have never regretted moving here from a small Arkansas town.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 10:16:07 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob
That's what I thought. I don’t live in Detroit (Bloomfield Hills) and have been inside the Detroit City Limits exactly three times in the past 10 years (Excluding trips to/from airport).

Hate the place, its politics and truly feel for the poor people who don't have the means to leave - And I'm certain that if they did they would be gone. Just a dump, Kwame’s Kingdom.

13 posted on 02/10/2009 10:22:30 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

“That’s what I thought. I don’t live in Detroit (Bloomfield Hills)”

I actually spent a week in bloomfield hills last year for a medical procedure, and found the area quite pleasant.


14 posted on 02/10/2009 10:32:03 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: TCats

I lived there in one of the worst ghetto areas in 1974-6, the area around Wayne St. Having formerly lived into some of the worst of Chicago, Woodlawn around the UofC, and believe me there is no comparison. I had never seen a corner store where the cash register was in a cage of iron until arriving in Detroit.

But I found the most glorious prize of my life there, my beautiful wife who gave me 20 yrs of happiness and two great sons before joining our Lord.

And living there was interesting in an all black neighborhood we had a sweet old couple next to us and I never felt endangered.


15 posted on 02/10/2009 10:35:23 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: WoofDog123

It is. Just too close to Detroit such that people who haven’t been here tend to think everywhere in Southeast Michigan is a cesspool like Detroit.


16 posted on 02/10/2009 10:35:29 PM PST by TCats
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To: arrogantsob

Sorry about your loss but happy you had the time together.


17 posted on 02/10/2009 10:37:15 PM PST by TCats
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To: TCats

Speaking as one who enjoyed his time in Bloomfield hills, generalizations kill small areas; but for someone planning a totally voluntary trip, I can understand their viewpoint - you have this black hole city eating up the near side of the map - why bother with all this space off to the side when you can go to xyz and it all is supposed to be generally nicer in both the city and outside the metro area?

This sort of disparity between urban reality and the nearby burbs or even rural areas is repeated so many places, and detroit is one on the avoid list. I have been a number of places in the US and western europe (for purposes of this comparison), and my impression of detroit (metro) was among the lowest I have ever had of any place, and these were the last trips in over a decade of extensive travel. I felt like I was being driven through a ghetto 10 miles long.

Unless you really are out to see the united states, I personally can think of many areas with both *urban* and suburbian/rural appeal I would far more prefer to visit before the detroit area.

If winter travel is your thing, it’s just as cheap to get to reykjavik, and the scenery is much nicer...


18 posted on 02/10/2009 10:53:58 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

“was among the lowest I have ever had of any place,”

this is code for it was the worst in terms of my personal view, but driving through parts of (south?) glasgow made a very poor impression as well and it interfered with just saying detroit made me wish I had a gun.


19 posted on 02/10/2009 10:57:28 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: arrogantsob

I grew up in the City of Detroit, and I can tell(almost) all of you that it is one of the worst pits in the U.S.A.
I would really rather go for a stroll in downtown Baghdad than in my old neighborhood around City Airport.


20 posted on 02/11/2009 12:57:47 AM PST by gigster
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To: arrogantsob

My condolences, A.S.O.B.
Detroit in the 60’s and 70’s, was a fantastic place to grow up.The people were hard working,and down to Earth.My parents immigrated there in the mid-40’s,and it was as good a city as any in the world.
It’s a sad commentary that the Leftist-Liberalism,etc. that has infested our country has destroyed once great cities.
Where do we go from here?


21 posted on 02/11/2009 1:11:26 AM PST by gigster
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To: gigster

It’s a sad commentary that the Leftist-Liberalism,etc. that has infested our country has destroyed once great cities. ...................................... Nah, its not destruction, its Liberal Progress.


22 posted on 02/11/2009 4:33:37 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Liberals fear the return of The Cleaver Family.)
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To: All
The sound of paper shredders.......................

Obama's COS Rahm Emanuel apparently lives tax-free in a magnificent Chicago mansion that is owned by "The Rahm Emanuel and Amy Rule Charitable Foundation."

According to the Cook County Assessor’s website, the Chicago home of four-term Democrat Congressman and new White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, doesn’t exist........there seems to be no public record of Emanuel ever paying property taxes on this home.

Here's the Chicago tax assessor on the topic: "Rahm Emanuel’s house being tax exempt is wholly inaccurate. Rep. Emanuel’s house in on the tax rolls, and he and Ms. Rule have paid the taxes on it. The Emanuel house sits on two lots. For tax purposes, the property is listed as 4232 N. Hermitage Ave. The PIN is 14-18-408-035-0000. As you can see, 4232 N. Hermitage came up as one of the addresses when you searched Emanuel’s block on our web site. 4228 N. Hermitage is listed as the mailing address on the tax records-----it is not at all uncommon for addresses to be merged for properties on two lots. According to the Cook County Treasurer’s web site, Emanuel and his wife paid $13,022.60 in property taxes this year." Sincerely, Eric W. Herman Director of Communications Cook County Assessor's Office

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KEEP IN MIND The Chicago county assessor is a high- ranking Democrat Party operative, and is surely biased.

This same assessor once carried the palatial home of Democrat Cong Luis Guiterrez on the tax rolls as a vacant lot and argued once the story was publicized that Guiterrez should not be penalized for a "clerical error" ....this was after Guiterrez paid minimal taxes for years and years, b/c Guiterrez' palatial home was listed as a vacant lot.

Rahm has two lots and pays the freight on a single bill and gets a tax break loophole that most of us would never be allowed and now the assessor tells us to be happy that multi-millionaire and Freddie Mac swiller Rahm Emanuel pays anything.

City and county Chicago governments are run by corrupt Dem machines for years, it's hardly surprising that Emmanuel managed to pulled off his "charitable organization" stunt successfully....then got a "clarification"

BTW, was Rahm's tax check backdated?

The "Rahm Emanuel and Amy Rule Charitable Trust" was formed in 2002, when Rahm was first elected to Congress.

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What illegalities would be unearthed if Foundation principles had their past tax filings audited?

IRS TOLL-FREE 1-800-829-0433----you may remain anonymous.

EMAIL .......OAAG.Tax@tax.USDOJ.gov.

REFERENCE The IRS has reported that tax-exempt “foundations and charities” are the locus classicus for tax evasion and money laundering. The "Rahm Emanuel and Amy Rule Charitable Trust" was formed in 2002, when Rahm was first elected to Congress.

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Here's Rahm pledging allegiance to the flag on inauguration day.


23 posted on 02/11/2009 5:33:15 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz

The article mentions Rahm Emanuel. The special election, to replace Emanuel, has one conservative, Rosanna Pulido, the founder and director of the Illinois Minuteman Project, and I’m her volunteer coordinator. She’s pro-life and pro-gun rights. Please read her site, www.rosannapulido2009.com. If you know anyone who wants to volunteer, for her, please ask them to email me at philacollins@yahoo.com. If you know anyone who wants to donate, to her, please ask them to do so, through her site.


24 posted on 02/11/2009 10:49:13 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: TCats

Well I did one thing right in my life and it transformed my life. I regret she could not see how well our boys turned out. The ten yrs she has been gone seems to have gone very quickly.


25 posted on 02/11/2009 1:56:42 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wait til Obama Chicagoizes the entire country.


26 posted on 02/11/2009 1:57:27 PM PST by jersey117
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To: gigster

My first year there as a Fellow at Wayne St. I lived in Hamtramack and that was quite pleasant.

We have no real perspective on the past of our cities being under a common view of “the Good Old Days” when life was nothing like “Good” for most people. See the movie “Gangs of New York” for a very dramatic and accurate view of real life without the nostalgia.

Chicago has been a corrupt polis since its very beginning and its history shows that it has been TOTALLY under the OPEN control of criminal agents for long period of time. Saloonkeepers, Brothel owners, Gang leaders controlled the elections, police, state legislators and Congressmen typically through the Democrat Party. It is amazing to me that this city is as beautiful, productive and significant as it is given the chaotic underpinning of the political structure.

It had periods when that chaos made it as bad as Detroit is today yet it survived and came back. Hopefully Detroit will as well but it cannot until the domination by the Black Welfare Machine and Unions is crushed.

Where do we go from here? Until the GOP and conservatives realize that taking the cities is critical to political success in the future we will go nowhere. That awareness seems to be very limited and generally ridiculed on the Right which seems to what to flee to the country.

However, when one considers the history of Rome it does not lead to excessive optimism. Once the means of controlling the masses was developed the elites used them and politics to pursue self-aggrandizement rather than public concerns. Like Rome this nation is powerful enough to buy off a huge percent of the people for a long time. In Rome’s case it obtained riches through the rapacious use of its military in looting other regions. In our case the dominate party has adopted policies which will REDUCE our wealth making it very difficult to pay off the parasites.


27 posted on 02/11/2009 3:10:25 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: Liz

I don’t see any significant advantage that this alleged foundation has given on the tax bill. Given the area and general housing stock the bill paid appears to reflect a value of about 1.2 million for the two lots.

Apparently the house is worth about 900,000.

BTW the other crook you reference was not evading taxes on a palatial home only a modest one.


28 posted on 02/11/2009 3:21:10 PM PST by arrogantsob
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