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Pa. judges accused of jailing kids for cash
AP via Yahoo ^ | 2/11/09 | MICHAEL RUBINKAM and MARYCLAIRE DALE

Posted on 02/11/2009 2:54:05 PM PST by mgstarr

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To: Integrityrocks

“I’m a judge and I’m sickened by this. Please don’t paint us all with the same brush. I actually care about the youth who come before me.”

My experience, when my son ran afoul once, was pretty positive. I think one of the things I would like to see changed is to remove every temptation from the justice system by taking the collection of fines and fees away and turning it into the general fund. Ohio had to do that in several cases in which small towns existed only due to the police force and judge. (The town only had twelve residents not part of the government).


41 posted on 02/11/2009 3:49:12 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 98)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

This wasn’t about fines and fees, it was about huge kickbacks for incarceration in privately run youth facilities.


42 posted on 02/11/2009 3:54:40 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: mgstarr
Particularly in the Peoples Commonwealth of PA. Rendell probably wishes he could do this to every Conservative in the state.
43 posted on 02/11/2009 3:56:28 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“I’ll bet a corrupt judge is *very* popular in prison.”

Not only will he NOT go to prison he will probably get his full pension w/benefits. After all this is PA we are talking about.


44 posted on 02/11/2009 3:58:54 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Did you run across any information about what youth homes they were put in (other than Juvenille prisons)? What to see if there are any links with those.


45 posted on 02/11/2009 3:59:36 PM PST by HollyB
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To: rednesss

Wow. Thanks, I just looked that up.


46 posted on 02/11/2009 4:03:32 PM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Integrityrocks

“Please don’t paint us all with the same brush. I actually care about the youth who come before me.”

Sorry. So did those two judges to the tune of what they could make off each child they sentenced.


47 posted on 02/11/2009 4:04:53 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.)
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To: Integrityrocks

Various judges I’ve stood before (I’m not a criminal - just property stuff, victim stuff, petty juvenile stuff (traffic tickets)) have all struck me as refreshingly decent.

How could these judges have been so cruel?


48 posted on 02/11/2009 4:10:07 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: JSteff

The Feds are handling this. He will go to prison and then some.


49 posted on 02/11/2009 4:12:07 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: darkangel82

The Feds are corrupt, vindictive and agenda driven.

But they also get it right sometimes.


50 posted on 02/11/2009 4:20:28 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: mgstarr

Yep. This was one of those times.


51 posted on 02/11/2009 4:20:55 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: mgstarr
Youngsters were brought before judges without a lawyer

Isn't that Illegal? I wonder why this went on so long?

52 posted on 02/11/2009 5:35:06 PM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: mgstarr
Uhhhh...how much would it cost for me to sponsor two kids?

Just kidding!

Sort of.

Hypothetically speaking, though.....

53 posted on 02/11/2009 5:40:02 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

..allow their victims each a few whacks with a baseball bat, perhaps?


54 posted on 02/11/2009 5:47:45 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mgstarr
Well, “thanks” to Mark Ciavarella and Michael Conahan for behaving with our beautiful USA as if it was Palestine or some deeply corrupted third world country.
55 posted on 02/11/2009 6:00:13 PM PST by Righting
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To: Righting

Unfortunately they’re neither the first nor the last and from EITHER party. (D)’s and (R)’s don’t always matter in power and control matters. No guarantee of true philosophy or integrity, just electability.


56 posted on 02/11/2009 6:13:25 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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Suspended Judge Mark A. Ciavarella Jr. and decertified Senior Judge Michael T. Conahan plan to plead guilty this Thursday to charges they took $2.6 million in kickbacks from two individuals tied to Pennsylvania Child Care LLC, a company whose juvenile detention centers earned nearly $30 million from county contracts. Court documents outlining the charges against Ciavarella and Conahan said a Luzerne County attorney who was co-owner of Pennsylvania Child Care made payments, and Pennsylvania Child Care was co-owned by Moran’s law partner Robert J. Powell. LINK
57 posted on 02/11/2009 6:15:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Pretty incredible huh??? You’d think we ran a gulag system like the Soviets.


58 posted on 02/11/2009 6:17:36 PM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: JSteff
Not only will he NOT go to prison he will probably get his full pension w/benefits. After all this is PA we are talking about.

The plea agreement is heard by a Federal judge tomorrow. Supposedly they are going in for a little over 7 years, most likely in the Big House at Lewisburg (most "white collar" crimimals there are put in the "camp", a very low security section of the prison).

59 posted on 02/11/2009 6:20:56 PM PST by Born Conservative (Bohicaville: http://bohicaville.wordpress.com/)
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To: mgstarr

agreed.


60 posted on 02/11/2009 6:41:31 PM PST by Righting
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