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Gun battle in a neighborhood (Armed Citizen in Tucson Defends His "Castle")
WCBD ^ | 2/11/2009 | n/a

Posted on 02/11/2009 5:41:04 PM PST by Pyro7480

A Tucson, Arizona homeowner alerted of an impending home invasion by his security cameras, armed himself and took matters into his hands when four armed suspects attempted to break into his home last week.

In the surveillance video you see a vehicle pull up, and four men run out.

One of them is carrying what appears to be an AR-15 or M-16, a weapon which could be fully automatic.

The robbery happened in broad daylight.

All the action was caught by the homeowners outdoor surveillance system.

“The victim was able to get back inside his house, close his door, semi barricade it, reach for a weapon that was easily accessible,“ said Pima County Sheriff’s Deputy Earl Gieron.

The homeowner shot at the suspects.

He even put a bullet through the windshield of the suspects car, which is also caught on camera.

The four men retreated and took off....

People living in the neighborhood heard all the gunshots, and saw the aftermath....

Lawrence Cruz lives down the street from where the attempted home invasion happened.

“I am very watchful where we live and I think everybody has right to defend their property,“ said Cruz.

Detectives did find the suspect’s vehicle, but the four men are still on the run.

One of the suspects has been identified as 23-year-old Jesus Mendivil.

It’s believed he was shot in the arm.

The three other men are all described as Hispanic males between 17 and 25-years-old.

(Excerpt) Read more at counton2.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; armedcitizen; bang; banglist; crimaliens; gangs; gun; homeinvasion; immigration; secondamendment; selfdefense; tucson
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To: Pyro7480
Good video. Some posters surmised that the victim may be involved in gang activity. Hard to say but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. Here in SW PA a local Pittsburgh tv station did a study a year or two ago and found that there were well over 300 home invasion robberies in Pittsburgh in the prior year. Some undoubtedly involved drugs/gangs but the ones that I know details about were innocent citizens targeted because they were thought to have money or prescription medication.

That said being the victim of a home invasion robbery is far more likely than being struck by lightning.

41 posted on 02/11/2009 6:51:15 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Eagles6

Looks like crime pays, perps had nice car and designer clothing. Panzerfaust into the car with jerks in it would have been more spectacular.


42 posted on 02/11/2009 7:09:44 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: Pyro7480
used their own car... not even smart enough to steal a work car. tooo funny.
43 posted on 02/11/2009 7:15:28 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: School of Rational Thought

I don’t think you would have time to say it twice. ;)


44 posted on 02/11/2009 7:19:24 PM PST by magslinger (I talk to myself but sometimes I like a third opinion.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

That would have livened things up. ‘Course only the military, police and criminals can have those.


45 posted on 02/11/2009 8:43:06 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Pyro7480


Two of the perps forgot they drove to the scene of the crime. LOL!
46 posted on 02/11/2009 9:02:40 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: dragnet2

So in a situation like this, which weapon would have been most effective? A shotgun, rifle or a handgun (9mm/.357/40)?

I’m also interested to know just what caused the homeowner to see what was happening via the surveillance cameras. If we had those installed, I know I sure don’t have the time to be watching a monitor 24/7.


47 posted on 02/11/2009 9:13:11 PM PST by ChocChipCookie ("Let his days be few, and let another take his office." Psalm 109:8)
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To: Pyro7480

Batten down the hatches as the crime wave spreads from the Mexican across America.


48 posted on 02/11/2009 10:04:30 PM PST by doc
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To: ChocChipCookie
So in a situation like this, which weapon would have been most effective? A shotgun, rifle or a handgun (9mm/.357/40)?

Uzi

49 posted on 02/12/2009 4:40:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: ChocChipCookie
So in a situation like this, which weapon would have been most effective? A shotgun, rifle or a handgun (9mm/.357/40)?

I’m also interested to know just what caused the homeowner to see what was happening via the surveillance cameras. If we had those installed, I know I sure don’t have the time to be watching a monitor 24/7.

The stock answer is usually "the weapon you have at hand", but for close-in work my nod would go to a 12 ga. shotgun. YMMV.

My guess about how the homeowner knew he had company would be that he had a motion-activated chime installed with his surveillance cameras. Either that or dumb luck.

50 posted on 02/12/2009 6:17:48 AM PST by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: ChocChipCookie
So in a situation like this, which weapon would have been most effective? A shotgun, rifle or a handgun (9mm/.357/40)?

My personal preference if access time is not a factor would be a 12 gauge home defense shotgun with 00 buck shot. It reduces the need for shot accuracy (in a time of panic) and you have a 9-15 in 1 shot chance of hitting the perp with a pellet, each of which is equivalent in size to a 33 caliber. If you prefer a pistol, go with something like hydro-shock bullets to maximize damage. Preferences are like opinions, everyone has one.

51 posted on 02/12/2009 6:33:39 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Obama? No Hope. Forget Change. Just more of the same old same old. Only worse. Much worse.)
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To: Pyro7480

That story could’ve been written better...Oh wait, it’s TV...

Muh bad...

“...retreated and took off...”

Kinda repetative I guess...

Even thought I am grammicably and speelingly challenged at times...I probably shouldn’t complain...;-)


52 posted on 02/12/2009 9:51:43 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: Red in Blue PA

Well, my imagination doesn’t contemplate such a senario...But I do see the horror of such a situation...

Somehow I imagine...No, I know for a fact...

That the powers at be do not consider an armed populace capable of a consistant response to such a crime...And those they know who are personally “armed and safe” are considered by them to be criminals and guilty before they choose to defend themselves in a situation like this...

Screw ‘em...


53 posted on 02/12/2009 9:56:27 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: ChocChipCookie
I’m also interested to know just what caused the homeowner to see what was happening via the surveillance cameras. If we had those installed, I know I sure don’t have the time to be watching a monitor 24/7.

The video feed can be routed to your television and left up in the "picture in picture" small window.

I know several cops in the Dallas area who have upgraded their home alarms with camera systems. When the cops start beefing up their home security, it's definitely time to worry.

54 posted on 02/12/2009 5:53:00 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: ChocChipCookie

I have no idea. I have an old pellet gun, and don’t even know if it works.


55 posted on 02/12/2009 6:04:47 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: ansel12

IDIOT CRIMINALS COME IN ALL STRIPES!

That would be idiot punk Hispanic males between 17 and 25-years-old.just that this group is coming in like an invading Army! Oh you think!

Idiot punk Islamic males between 17 and 25-years-old.

And of course all the idiot punk white/black males between 17 and 25-years-old.

Now the females between 17 and 25-years-old are jumping in.

And idiot punk old dudes rule this bunch.

SPECIAL PLACES IN HE!! FOR THEM! NO VERGINS BOYS! NO BOY’S GIRLS. NO GIRLS FOR GIRLS! IDIOT PUNK OLD DUDES ARE LOOSERS.

THE REST OF US WILL SHOOT IDIOT PUNKS NO MATTER HOW BABY FACE YOU ARE!


56 posted on 02/13/2009 6:51:36 AM PST by BellStar (Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
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To: hemogoblin

Hollyweird uses specially constructed weapons. They have a restriction inside the barrel so that gas pressure from the blanks is enough to cycle the action. This works like the blank firing adapters the military uses for training, but is internal rather than external. Additionally the blanks they use produce much more flash than regular loaded ammunition, or military type blanks. These are highly visible even in bright sunlight, let alone in the dark. More dramatic and photogenic don't ya know.

57 posted on 02/16/2009 10:39:55 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ChocChipCookie
I’m also interested to know just what caused the homeowner to see what was happening via the surveillance cameras. If we had those installed, I know I sure don’t have the time to be watching a monitor 24/7.

Either he "got lucky", or more likely he has motion detectors as well as cameras. I'd have the detectors tied not only to some kind of alarm or alert, but also to the recording capability. Although you could just have a first in first out recording scheme on a hard drive.

58 posted on 02/16/2009 10:42:59 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: from occupied ga
A shotgun, rifle or a handgun (9mm/.357/40)? Uzi

I think a compact weapon, but heavier than a pistol cartridge. Maybe a FN P90?

or it's big brother the FN F2000

Although due to the unconstitional National Firearms Act, you or I would probably have to settle for the longer barreled semi-auto versions.

59 posted on 02/16/2009 10:59:12 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
Try again with that P90


60 posted on 02/16/2009 11:01:59 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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