Skip to comments.Gun battle in a neighborhood (Armed Citizen in Tucson Defends His "Castle")
Posted on 02/11/2009 5:41:04 PM PST by Pyro7480
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My personal preference if access time is not a factor would be a 12 gauge home defense shotgun with 00 buck shot. It reduces the need for shot accuracy (in a time of panic) and you have a 9-15 in 1 shot chance of hitting the perp with a pellet, each of which is equivalent in size to a 33 caliber. If you prefer a pistol, go with something like hydro-shock bullets to maximize damage. Preferences are like opinions, everyone has one.
That story could’ve been written better...Oh wait, it’s TV...
“...retreated and took off...”
Kinda repetative I guess...
Even thought I am grammicably and speelingly challenged at times...I probably shouldn’t complain...;-)
Well, my imagination doesn’t contemplate such a senario...But I do see the horror of such a situation...
Somehow I imagine...No, I know for a fact...
That the powers at be do not consider an armed populace capable of a consistant response to such a crime...And those they know who are personally “armed and safe” are considered by them to be criminals and guilty before they choose to defend themselves in a situation like this...
The video feed can be routed to your television and left up in the "picture in picture" small window.
I know several cops in the Dallas area who have upgraded their home alarms with camera systems. When the cops start beefing up their home security, it's definitely time to worry.
I have no idea. I have an old pellet gun, and don’t even know if it works.
IDIOT CRIMINALS COME IN ALL STRIPES!
That would be idiot punk Hispanic males between 17 and 25-years-old.just that this group is coming in like an invading Army! Oh you think!
Idiot punk Islamic males between 17 and 25-years-old.
And of course all the idiot punk white/black males between 17 and 25-years-old.
Now the females between 17 and 25-years-old are jumping in.
And idiot punk old dudes rule this bunch.
SPECIAL PLACES IN HE!! FOR THEM! NO VERGINS BOYS! NO BOYS GIRLS. NO GIRLS FOR GIRLS! IDIOT PUNK OLD DUDES ARE LOOSERS.
THE REST OF US WILL SHOOT IDIOT PUNKS NO MATTER HOW BABY FACE YOU ARE!
Hollyweird uses specially constructed weapons. They have a restriction inside the barrel so that gas pressure from the blanks is enough to cycle the action. This works like the blank firing adapters the military uses for training, but is internal rather than external. Additionally the blanks they use produce much more flash than regular loaded ammunition, or military type blanks. These are highly visible even in bright sunlight, let alone in the dark. More dramatic and photogenic don't ya know.
Either he "got lucky", or more likely he has motion detectors as well as cameras. I'd have the detectors tied not only to some kind of alarm or alert, but also to the recording capability. Although you could just have a first in first out recording scheme on a hard drive.
I think a compact weapon, but heavier than a pistol cartridge. Maybe a FN P90?
or it's big brother the FN F2000
Although due to the unconstitional National Firearms Act, you or I would probably have to settle for the longer barreled semi-auto versions.
I suggested the Uzi because the recoil is controllable (and I purchased one several years ago and know this for a fact) Never having fired the FN I don’t know whether they climb (like an AK) or not. The prices have gotten ridiculous (as our massas in Kongress intended) for full auto weapons, and the best and newest are NOT available to anyone but the government’s own goons (again as out massas in Kongress intended). Generally full outo in light weapons with a rifle cartridge tend to be harder to control than full auto in weapons with a pistol cartridge
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Wow, are you way behind the times.
Especially after the Connecticut home invasion/robbery/extortion/rape/immolation murders - you should NOT expect just a couple of people wandering in, one with an old revolver.
The Dallas cops I’ve talked to who did that cited liability and internal affairs reasons for doing that. Seems that if you get the whole affair on video when you have to open fire on an intruder and you did it by the book, it takes a *lot* less time for IA to clear you.
Home video surveillance systems are cheap enough now. You can put a decent one together for under $300 now or you can spend $500 and get a ridiculous number of cameras.
Wow! nice video, guess this “job” was a little over their “pay grade”
Um... you don’t take on a guy holding an automatic rifle with a pistol. You fire from cover and use your magazine capacity (you *did* remember to dump the revolver and buy a high capacity automatic, right?) to suppress the enemy from cover until and unless he gives you an opening.
Also notice that he probably got at least one of them, and looking at the windshield hit, I think the driver just ducked at the right time.
When you find the key, remember that you put the ammunition on the top shelf in the basement, behind the canned peaches.
"No Hurry -- the punks will wait," -- says the Brady Bunch.
Once I’ve fired and they’re fleeing, I’m shooting straight!
Based on the video, he fired several rounds as they retreated to the car.
THAT is when his aim should have been better.
Keep in mind, this is NOT the thought process I would share in any “debrief”.
So does Obamassiah, we're all his victims and he wants us disarmed.
He was an antigun extremist, even for Chicago, before he started campaigning for a national office and no matter what he says now he is still a dedicated gungrabber of the first order. Gun confiscation is coming at some point in his term in office, or God forbid two terms. Count on it and try to prepare for it.
Don't tell ANYONE where your guns are stashed, there will probably be rewards offered for information and your friends may not be friends for long if a large sum of money is involved. Yeah I'm paranoid, there are way too many similarities between the grip Obamamessiah has on the minds of masses of Americans and Hitler's demonic-like hold on the minds of the German people when he came to power for me NOT to be paranoid..
If you ever want a gun you had best get it now while they are still available to private citizens. Buy a gun from a private party who doesn't know your name or where you live, because his guns will be traced to him if he bought from a licensed gun dealer but the trail ends with him if he doesn't know your real name.
Yeah I'm paranoid like I said in my previous post, but IMHO paranoia is justified when you have a demonically empowered "messiah" like Obama in power.
So what's the problem, they're just hard working immigrants doing crimes that Americans won't do.
The one that you have shot 1000 rounds through at the range, that is kept loaded and handy.
His two shot group on the windshield looked pretty tight to me.
Makes sense. Some insurers will also give you a homeowners' policy discount for adding a video system.
fer cryin out loud.....
he had four large targets moving away from him, while he was shooting and missing.
Betcha they were “undocumented immigrants”,or whatever the he!! they call em now (oh,my bad...they call them 0bama supporters!!).....Good on ya, homeowner! Too bad you couldn’t take out a few of them.I noticed in the video not one of them even attempted to return fire. What morons!
“One of them is carrying what appears to be an AR-15 or M-16, a weapon which could be fully automatic.
The robbery happened in broad daylight.
One of the suspects has been identified as 23-year-old Jesus Mendivil.
The three other men are all described as Hispanic males between 17 and 25-years-old.”
This is what ALL of us are up against, or soon will be if we don’t wake up....fully armed drug cartel thugs.....hiding in the shadows????LOL!
In NJ, the homeowner would have been arrested for discharging a firearm, because there is no castle doctrine. And, the perps would have a valid claim to sue the homeowner because their civil rights were violated!
Well, we don’t know the area from which the homeowner was firing. However, a nice Mossberg 590, staggered with slug and .00 throughout the magazine tube would in my opinion, serve as an effective deterrent.
Well, it looks like at least some of the neighbors used their share of bake sale proceeds to arm themselves. :D
Next up: a charity car wash to raise money to pay for range time for the homeowner. Looks like he could use it.
Probably kept mentally shifting targets instead of neutralizing in order of acquisition.
If you look from one to another, you won’t hit any of them.
But it does take a lot of focus when the adrenaline is pumping.
Once he got down to a single target (the windshield) he did quite well.
I’m just glad he was able to protect himself.
The real intent of my original comment was, “hey, if I’m ever in that position I hope I can be focused enough to hit my targets.”
If you haven’t been in that situation, you don’t really know.