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MARINE VETERAN KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL FOR POSSESSING FIREARMS
Oregon Firearms Federation ^ | 2/10/09 | unknown

Posted on 02/12/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by goodnesswins

02.10.09

MARINE VETERAN KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL FOR POSSESSING FIREARMS

WOU STUDENT TRIED, CONVICTED AND SENTENCED.The WOU student who was falsely arrested and charged with possession of a firearm in a public building, had all his criminal charges dropped by the Polk County DA tonight.The DA admitted no wrongdoing on his part, or on the part of the police who arrested Jeff Maxwell for a "crime" that does not exist.In a statement released to OFF's attorney, the DA said "I believe the Monmouth Police Department issued the citation in good faith and that there was an arguable violation. However, a careful reading of the statute and the facts led me to conclude the charge was not in the best interest of justice."

"Not in the best interest of justice."

There was NO CRIME. But it gets worse. Much worse. The college still got to "try" Jeff Maxwell. And they did tonight. The tribunal that tried Marine veteran Jeffery Maxwell laughed after suspending him from Western Oregon University and sentencing him to:a "psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others" and a mandatory "ten page paper" " with references, "citing, but not limited to: 1) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience. 2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions 3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others." So, Maxwell has been told his lawful possession of a firearm on campus is evidence of mental illness and he must "confess his sins."

Welcome to the new Politburo. Maxwell may as well been judged by the Hitler youth for his "thought crimes." Jeffery Maxwell's "jury" were four unnamed students and one staff member of WOU.

The "prosecutor" was Patrick Moser moserp@wou.edu "Acting Coordinator of Campus Judicial Affairs" Maxwell asked to have his "trial" open to the public, which is his right, but was denied.The tribunal was told repeatedly that they lacked the authority to impose a rule dealing with firearms. But the children who sat in judgment of the veteran were not interested in the law or the facts. They were only interested in attacking and embarrassing a man who had committed no crime but had chosen to exercise his right to protect himself and others.The "trial" was a sham. No one present even seemed to know what the "charge" was. When confronted by the fact that the school has no authority to make rules about firearms, they said that was "not relevant." Then they said they were not charging Maxwell with having a firearm. When asked what they WERE charging him with, they seemed to not know. They then said they were charging him with having a "knife and a rifle in his car." When told they had no authority to make rules about guns in his car, they said THAT was not "relevant."The children who sat on Maxwell's "jury" and their staff advisors seemed to have no idea what they were actually charging Maxwell with. But they had no problem sentencing him. Gun owners, and all Americans should be outraged.OFF is committed to continuing Maxwell's defense.

We are shocked and disgusted by the treatment he received by the staff and the students of WOU,We ask your continued support of our legal battle for Jeff Maxwell. We promised Jeff what he promised the men he served with. We will not leave him behind.

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This happened at Western Oregon University, outside of Salem, OR.

I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN....

1 posted on 02/12/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: goodnesswins

These “people” are one of the very reasons for the 2nd Amendment.


2 posted on 02/12/2009 8:57:04 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Obama says we should listen to our enemies, but not to Rush)
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To: goodnesswins; Salvation

Oregon Ping.

Lars is correct, it is perfectly Legal if you have a conceal-carry Permit. WOU ought to be sued up one side down the other, along with the State of Oregon for allowing False accusations and criminal activity on the Campus of WOU, and the “faculty” involved in the false and illegal trial they put this honorable Veteran to.

FIRE THEM ALL and sentence them to 2 years in Jail. Maybe then they will see the POINT of having a weapon. So you can not be made into a defenseless victim!


3 posted on 02/12/2009 8:58:24 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: goodnesswins
The tribunal that tried Marine veteran Jeffery Maxwell laughed after suspending him from Western Oregon University and sentencing him to:a "psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others" and a mandatory "ten page paper" " with references, "citing, but not limited to: 1) the importance of following the law, even through civil disobedience. 2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions

These are the same totalitarians who, if the Constitution had been weak enough back then, would have assigned MLK to a psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others and a mandatory ten page paper with references, citing, but not limited to the importance of following the law, even through civil disobedience, and the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions.

The whole point of civil disobedience is to violate bad laws ... just like the whole point of Dear Leader's "stimulus" package is to spend money that we don't have to increase the power of our socialist leaders.

4 posted on 02/12/2009 8:59:02 AM PST by MathDoc (If there ever was a time that Obama looked like an amateur, it's right now.)
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To: goodnesswins

I don’t understand. He was kicked out of the college, and forced to undergo therepy, write a paper, etc?


5 posted on 02/12/2009 9:00:25 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: goodnesswins
So the party cadre has already instituted self-criticism and reeducation meetings to protect against counter-revolutionary tendencies.

And they say colleges aren't little Marxist states.

Well, actually no one says that, do they?

6 posted on 02/12/2009 9:02:18 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Danae

Schools do have the right to deny access to their property if you have a weapon, they do it in Connecticut all the time with their ules, no guns, no weapons

The School can kick him out based on their rules, it is not public property, it is private

He should still sue, though! :)


7 posted on 02/12/2009 9:03:12 AM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: goodnesswins

We should help write the paper:

“) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience.

Thesis: Critical that liberal who desire to disarm the law-abiding public follow the law in doing so, because to harass and intimidate law-abiding citizens for exercising their rights is a waste of tax-payer resources and brings contempt both upon themselves and the law.

“2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one’s actions”

Thesis: college and DA failed to accept responsibility of their flagrant disregard of the law and rights of others enoucourages tyranny.

“3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others.:

Thesis: lawful possession of weapons on college campuses protects studens and professors from predators. Numerous studies exists in this regard. Cite real-life examples of the Chinese killer going room-to-room -— cite law proposed to allow lawful carry to prevent similar murder sprees.


8 posted on 02/12/2009 9:03:46 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: goodnesswins

I would expound upon the following topics in my response.

1) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience.

Discuss in detail how the college has the obligation to follow the law with it’s conduct and how it failed to do so and insisted on trampling the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s students contrary to law.

2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one’s actions

Hammer home how citizens have not only the right to defend themselves but the obligation to do so. Show how a responsible person uses firearms to be responsibly prepared against an attack by criminals. Show how it is IRRESPONSIBLE to depend on others or the police to protect yourself.

3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others.”

Show how weapon possession makes the area safer for all on the campus.


9 posted on 02/12/2009 9:04:15 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: goodnesswins

The DA admitted no wrongdoing on his part, or on the part of the police who arrested Jeff Maxwell for a “crime” that does not exist.

see this all time, cops make up what they think are crimes to arrest you...then let the d.a.’s sort it out...all in the name of making their arrest numbers look good...


10 posted on 02/12/2009 9:07:17 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: goodnesswins
"...recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others."

The possession of one firearm by one trained law-abiding citizen at the right place would have had a lifesaving impact on several others during the Virginia Tech rampage.

11 posted on 02/12/2009 9:08:25 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: goodnesswins

I’ve passed along my concerns to Mr. Moser and that I will be contacting my fellow and former Marines to raise funds to help defend Mr. Maxwell and then use whatever means we can to see that Moser is sued personally and severally for his part in this.


12 posted on 02/12/2009 9:08:53 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: goodnesswins
Better story on it here

http://www.katu.com/news/local/39453942.html

13 posted on 02/12/2009 9:11:23 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception administration)
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To: goodnesswins

Would the actions of WOU officials and students be considered a conspiracy to deny rights and thus actionable under federal law? If so, the Marine should go after all involved. They must be made to pay for their insolence.


14 posted on 02/12/2009 9:11:32 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: Danae; goodnesswins; Salvation
Lars is correct, it is perfectly Legal if you have a conceal-carry Permit.

If he was carrying concealed,
how was anyone to know he was carrying ?

My sheriff has instructed me to tell no one.


15 posted on 02/12/2009 9:12:32 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: MahatmaGandu

You rock...dropped a note...bout all I can do...


16 posted on 02/12/2009 9:12:36 AM PST by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....http://falconparty.com/)
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To: goodnesswins

A lawsuit would help them clear their minds. I’d love to sit on that jury and award him the coffers of the “school”.


17 posted on 02/12/2009 9:13:53 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberalism is Communism, and both are a mental disorder. Grow up.)
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To: goodnesswins

He should sue for a full refund of all tuition, fees and books he had to spend $$ on.


18 posted on 02/12/2009 9:15:53 AM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: goodnesswins

God knows, there are plenty of weak, talentless males infesting the bureaucracy of “educational” institutions, but my observations have been that spiteful lesbians are a real dominant force at many of these schools.

Their utter hatred and disdain for masculine, heterosexual males oozes from their every pore.


19 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:27 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Danae
The President of the university retains the right to control weapons on campus, regardless of CCW.

http://media.katu.com/documents/WOU_firearm_policy.pdf

20 posted on 02/12/2009 9:17:49 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception administration)
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To: stylin19a

Then the Legislature in Oregon needs to remedy that.


21 posted on 02/12/2009 9:20:23 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: goodnesswins

Sue their asses off.


22 posted on 02/12/2009 9:20:25 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: goodnesswins

A key element of communist, totalitarian show trials is that the accussed must be made to sign a complete comfession. That why they wanted the term paper and dictated its’ content.

LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS.


23 posted on 02/12/2009 9:22:31 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: MeanWestTexan
We should help write the paper:
We should use the little commies own tactics against them.
     Storm the campus, take over the admin building and demand public apologies to this Marine from everyone involved.
We'd damn well better start fighting back or America is over. Semper Fi ...
24 posted on 02/12/2009 9:23:37 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RaceBannon

It is not private property from what I can see.
“It became a state college called Oregon State Normal School in 1882”.
Doesn’t that make it state property and subject to state law?


25 posted on 02/12/2009 9:24:04 AM PST by 1stIowa (just disgusted.)
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To: nonsporting

He should contact the Civil Rights Division of DOJ. DOJ will of course put the perps who violated his rights in jail.


26 posted on 02/12/2009 9:24:29 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: goodnesswins
Seems like Jeff should visit a tort on WOU, the four "tribunal" judges, and the student association.

These idiots laid themselves wide open, he should impoverish them.

27 posted on 02/12/2009 9:28:30 AM PST by Navy Patriot (John McCain, the Manchurian Candidate, makes a Marxist President.)
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To: goodnesswins
fullyinformedjuries
28 posted on 02/12/2009 9:36:40 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: goodnesswins
What a terrible article. Many things are violations of university policy that are not illegal, and still create liability to discipline as provided in university policy.

The "better story" linked above in turn links to what is apparently the actual University policy, which plainly prohibits people from bearing licensed firearms onto campus unless they meet additional requirements which there is no contention were met in this case.

The (somewhat) interesting question -- not raised here -- is whether the rule violated the U.S. or Oregon Constitution. The short answer is "highly unlikely," since the courts have long recognized the right of public schools to circumscribe certain freedoms, and continue to recognize even post Heller a relatively broad freedom to regulate firearms.

Regardless of whether or not the rule might be unconstitutional, it's not the duty of a student disciplinary panel to judge the Constitutionality of its rule book. That's for a real court to do.
29 posted on 02/12/2009 9:37:05 AM PST by only1percent
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To: 1stIowa

Western Oregon University is an Oregon University System school, employees are employees of the state and are represented by SEIU 503. It is a public 4-year school. He was on public land.


30 posted on 02/12/2009 9:44:56 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: goodnesswins
"I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN...."

He was clearly within the law here. I sent Lars an email reminding him that the new law that he is a proponent of, the one where you get your DNA seized from you upon arrest, not conviction, that if Lars had his way, the kid could have had this injustice foisted upon him as well, as reward for being arrested by a clueless buffoon with a badge for breaking a law that doesn't exist except in the head of this jack booted thug. Yayyyyyyyyy liberty.

31 posted on 02/12/2009 9:50:14 AM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: goodnesswins

Let us say that if this hero had been on the scene and campus at Virginia Tech when a crazed gunman murdered several students, would they be trying to prosecute/persecute him then?


32 posted on 02/12/2009 9:57:57 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: XeniaSt

The story is a student saw the outline of a pocket knife in his back pocket as he was sitting somewhere....got “skeered” and called 911....then, when the officers “talked” to him, and asked him if he had anything else...he said “Yes, a pistol, for which I have a license to carry.” That’s how this got this far...


33 posted on 02/12/2009 9:59:36 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: MahatmaGandu

THANK YOU!!! I was hoping that by posting this it would get more attention.


34 posted on 02/12/2009 10:01:26 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Exactly...I’ll post the idiocy I found in the student “newspaper” about how someone was “Scared” because there was a weapon on campus....IDIOTS.


35 posted on 02/12/2009 10:02:55 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: All
Mid-morning arrest startles students

Individual brings weapons on campus in violation of state law

By: Erin Huggins

Posted: 2/4/09

Last Wednesday morning at 11:16 a.m., Campus Public Safety (CPS) and Monmouth Police identified, detained and arrested Western student Jeffrey Maxwell in the downstairs student area of Werner University Center (WUC) for violation of ORS 166.370, Possession of a Firearm in a Public Building. CPS had sent an e-mail on Tuesday, Jan. 27, alerting the campus community about an individual who had been seen loitering around the pool area and the residence halls. Wednesday morning, CPS received a call reporting a person matching the description given in the e-mail who was carrying a knife on campus. Because weapons were involved, Assitant Director of CPS and CPS Officer Mike Hanson called Monmouth Police Department (MPD) for back-up. Sergeant Kim Dorn, Officer Matthew Olafson and a recruit officer from MPD, along with Hutchinson and Hanson, were unable to locate the individual upon an initial search of the campus. However, shortly before 11 a.m., CPS received another call about the individual and the MPD officers returned to campus.

Maxwell, who was sitting at one of the study tables across from the Service and Career Learning Center, was approached from behind by Joe Hutchinson from Campus Public Safety and MPD officers. Hutchinson asked Maxwell if he had any weapons concealed on his person.

On first response, Maxwell answered he had a knife. Hutchinson then put Maxwell's hands above his head. The second time he was asked, Maxwell said he had a gun. After the weapons were removed, officers took him into the Calapooia Room. A few minutes later, he was escorted into one of two police cars parked on Church Street outside of WUC.

Responding to why they did not evacuate WUC, Hutchinson said CPS did not know what weapons were involved and did not want to alert the suspect by a sudden flood of students leaving the building.

"If we had known he had a gun, the scenario would have been totally different," Hutchinson said.

Maxwell was initially approached because of his resemblance to the individual in CPS's e-mail, although Hutchinson said CPS has not confirmed whether or not Maxwell is the same person described in the e-mail.

Hutchinson said there have been no sightings of the person since the arrest last Wednesday.

Dorn said although Maxwell did have a loaded firearm on his person, he did not use it in a threatening way and was cooperative with the police.

Maxwell had a valid permit for possessing concealed weapons; however, the permit does not allow people to bring weapons inside public schools, private schools or courthouses.

"Even if you have a concealed weapons permit, you can't have a weapon concealed on your person if you're going to be in any buildings on campus." Dorn said. "In this instance, he just didn't know."

Hutchinson said Western firearm and munition policies are administrative and correspond to Oregon University System policies, which are not necessarily the same as state regulations.

"We go one step further and say, look, no weapons are allowed on campus, period,"Hutchinson said.

Hutchinson said he asked Maxwell why he had a gun on campus, to which Maxwell replied, "I was just scared after Virginia tech. I was just really worried about my safety." Several students witnessed the arrest, including senior Alica Tresidder, who said she initially thought the event was a drill.

"I thought they were practicing," she said about officers involved. "They had it under control. I didn't feel threatened at all."

Sophomore Carrie Miller said she thought the suspect was being arrested for drug possession, "not such serious things as a loaded gun." "I had a test I was down here [WUC] studying for. How am I supposed to concentrate for the next hour?" she questioned shortly after the arrest took place. Senior Alecia St. Germaine said her first reaction to the situation was fear. "My stomach started turning and I wanted to leave," she said. In addition, knowing an armed person could just walk onto campus makes her feel a little uneasy. "I have night class," she said. "Usually, I'm fine walking to my car. Now I'm going to second guess that." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © Copyright 2009 Western Oregon Journal

36 posted on 02/12/2009 10:06:30 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: goodnesswins
I guess I'm blessed to live in one of the remaining formerly united states.

37 posted on 02/12/2009 10:09:10 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: goodnesswins

This happened at Western Oregon University, outside of Salem, OR.
I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN....”

That area of the USA is about as left liberal as one can get.

The left over hippies are imbedded there and have been for years.
They grow pot everywhere, and the police are using resources to go after this Marine.

Sad-
Does he need to change to another school? Where does he want to go? Maybe Freepers can help him???


38 posted on 02/12/2009 10:14:32 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: goodnesswins

Change schools. Sue WOU.


39 posted on 02/12/2009 10:16:31 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: stylin19a
The President of the university retains the right to control weapons on campus, regardless of CCW.

Sad but true. However he was falsely arrested as there is no criminal statue that punishes his breaking of campus rules. But its seems the president does have the discreetion to throw him off campus.

Unless he plans to contest this in the courts, he better look for another college to aattend
40 posted on 02/12/2009 10:24:52 AM PST by RedMonqey (Arm yourself if you must. For your enemies surely will.)
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To: stylin19a

That regulation is poorly written. It does not say the individual can’t carry a weapon, it says the campus security shall prohibit them. The regulation also indicates it is written pursuant to another policy issued by a higher authority than the president. That original policy also may be defective. Where did the higher authority get its authority to alter something which is legal off campus?


41 posted on 02/12/2009 10:27:37 AM PST by mathurine
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To: goodnesswins
I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN....

It's not against the law. There is an exception in the general prohibition for carrying in a Public Building, which includes colleges, if one has a license to carry concealed.

Both the prohibition and the exception are in section 166.370 of Oregon Revised statutes. There is also an exception for having a weapon unloaded and locked in a vehicle.

The Code of Student Responsibilty has a provision agsinst having firearms on campus, but there seems to be no basis in the law for such policy. The statute that the code cites is "broad general powers" of the colleges, but there is no specific authority to either prohibit or a mandate to allow firearms on campus. Thus being good little liberals, they did what they wanted regardless of their authority to do it.

42 posted on 02/12/2009 10:31:39 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: rednesss
"He was clearly within the law here"

" Sorry but no. While he has the right to CC, there are restrictions written in the law. CC is not allowed on campus. There are no penalties as far as criminal liability but he broke campus rules and can be discliplined according to their rules.

Read post no.20
43 posted on 02/12/2009 10:31:51 AM PST by RedMonqey (Arm yourself if you must. For your enemies surely will.)
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To: goodnesswins; Joe Brower
An excellent example of those young adults already used to their chains...
So, Maxwell has been told his lawful possession of a firearm on campus is evidence of mental illness and he must "confess his sins."


Good pig...

44 posted on 02/12/2009 10:38:01 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: stylin19a
The President of the university retains the right to control weapons on campus, regardless of CCW.

It would not be a right, but rather a power. Where in the statues does this "power" come from? It looks to me like they are citing the "criminal trespass while carrying a firearm" statute as their authority. But that does not apply unless you are trespassing, and you're trespassing on campus if you are a registered student. Or a member of the public in most cases. They are trying to say that since they don't allow firearms, you are trespassing if you have them, and further you are trespassing while in possession of a firearm. The problem with the latte is that it's only defined if you would have been trespassing without the firearm. Or that is my read of the statute at least, and apparently of the DA as well.

IOW, it's all BS.

45 posted on 02/12/2009 10:45:42 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

They don’t call it the Left Coast without reason.


46 posted on 02/12/2009 10:52:33 AM PST by TYVets
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Welcome to the Age of Unreason.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

47 posted on 02/12/2009 10:53:39 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: goodnesswins
Maxwell had a valid permit for possessing concealed weapons; however, the permit does not allow people to bring weapons inside public schools, private schools or courthouses.

But colleges are not included in that list, the "schools" are high school level and below. Look it up.

My stomach started turning and I wanted to leave," she said. In addition, knowing an armed person could just walk onto campus makes her feel a little uneasy. "I have night class," she said. "Usually, I'm fine walking to my car. Now I'm going to second guess that."

What a hoplophobic Maroon. She should be asking that armed Marine to walk her to her car, because as she said, "anyone can walk onto campus", armed or not. The ones with evil intent are the ones to worry about. No "policy" is going to stop them. You can't even expel them if they are not students, and I'll bet this case eventually says you can't expel them if they are students, as long as they are committing no crime, nor violating any rules the College/University has the authority to make.

48 posted on 02/12/2009 10:54:00 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: goodnesswins

File WOU as yet another college my daughter will not be going to.


49 posted on 02/12/2009 11:01:11 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: El Gato

I agree BS.
digging a little deeper, i don’t see where the WOU President has any authority to do other than what the law allows.

Course it could be buried in some other part of the statute

http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html


50 posted on 02/12/2009 11:36:56 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama - the ethical exception administration)
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