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Posted on 02/12/2009 8:50:52 AM PST by goodnesswins
MARINE VETERAN KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL FOR POSSESSING FIREARMS
WOU STUDENT TRIED, CONVICTED AND SENTENCED.The WOU student who was falsely arrested and charged with possession of a firearm in a public building, had all his criminal charges dropped by the Polk County DA tonight.The DA admitted no wrongdoing on his part, or on the part of the police who arrested Jeff Maxwell for a "crime" that does not exist.In a statement released to OFF's attorney, the DA said "I believe the Monmouth Police Department issued the citation in good faith and that there was an arguable violation. However, a careful reading of the statute and the facts led me to conclude the charge was not in the best interest of justice."
"Not in the best interest of justice."
There was NO CRIME. But it gets worse. Much worse. The college still got to "try" Jeff Maxwell. And they did tonight. The tribunal that tried Marine veteran Jeffery Maxwell laughed after suspending him from Western Oregon University and sentencing him to:a "psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others" and a mandatory "ten page paper" " with references, "citing, but not limited to: 1) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience. 2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions 3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others." So, Maxwell has been told his lawful possession of a firearm on campus is evidence of mental illness and he must "confess his sins."
Welcome to the new Politburo. Maxwell may as well been judged by the Hitler youth for his "thought crimes." Jeffery Maxwell's "jury" were four unnamed students and one staff member of WOU.
The "prosecutor" was Patrick Moser firstname.lastname@example.org "Acting Coordinator of Campus Judicial Affairs" Maxwell asked to have his "trial" open to the public, which is his right, but was denied.The tribunal was told repeatedly that they lacked the authority to impose a rule dealing with firearms. But the children who sat in judgment of the veteran were not interested in the law or the facts. They were only interested in attacking and embarrassing a man who had committed no crime but had chosen to exercise his right to protect himself and others.The "trial" was a sham. No one present even seemed to know what the "charge" was. When confronted by the fact that the school has no authority to make rules about firearms, they said that was "not relevant." Then they said they were not charging Maxwell with having a firearm. When asked what they WERE charging him with, they seemed to not know. They then said they were charging him with having a "knife and a rifle in his car." When told they had no authority to make rules about guns in his car, they said THAT was not "relevant."The children who sat on Maxwell's "jury" and their staff advisors seemed to have no idea what they were actually charging Maxwell with. But they had no problem sentencing him. Gun owners, and all Americans should be outraged.OFF is committed to continuing Maxwell's defense.
We are shocked and disgusted by the treatment he received by the staff and the students of WOU,We ask your continued support of our legal battle for Jeff Maxwell. We promised Jeff what he promised the men he served with. We will not leave him behind.
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I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN....
These “people” are one of the very reasons for the 2nd Amendment.
Lars is correct, it is perfectly Legal if you have a conceal-carry Permit. WOU ought to be sued up one side down the other, along with the State of Oregon for allowing False accusations and criminal activity on the Campus of WOU, and the “faculty” involved in the false and illegal trial they put this honorable Veteran to.
FIRE THEM ALL and sentence them to 2 years in Jail. Maybe then they will see the POINT of having a weapon. So you can not be made into a defenseless victim!
These are the same totalitarians who, if the Constitution had been weak enough back then, would have assigned MLK to a psychological evaluation stating he is not a threat to himself of others and a mandatory ten page paper with references, citing, but not limited to the importance of following the law, even through civil disobedience, and the importance of accepting responsibility for one's actions.
The whole point of civil disobedience is to violate bad laws ... just like the whole point of Dear Leader's "stimulus" package is to spend money that we don't have to increase the power of our socialist leaders.
I don’t understand. He was kicked out of the college, and forced to undergo therepy, write a paper, etc?
And they say colleges aren't little Marxist states.
Well, actually no one says that, do they?
Schools do have the right to deny access to their property if you have a weapon, they do it in Connecticut all the time with their ules, no guns, no weapons
The School can kick him out based on their rules, it is not public property, it is private
He should still sue, though! :)
We should help write the paper:
“) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience.
Thesis: Critical that liberal who desire to disarm the law-abiding public follow the law in doing so, because to harass and intimidate law-abiding citizens for exercising their rights is a waste of tax-payer resources and brings contempt both upon themselves and the law.
“2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one’s actions”
Thesis: college and DA failed to accept responsibility of their flagrant disregard of the law and rights of others enoucourages tyranny.
“3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others.:
Thesis: lawful possession of weapons on college campuses protects studens and professors from predators. Numerous studies exists in this regard. Cite real-life examples of the Chinese killer going room-to-room -— cite law proposed to allow lawful carry to prevent similar murder sprees.
I would expound upon the following topics in my response.
1) the importance of following the law,even through civil disobedience.
Discuss in detail how the college has the obligation to follow the law with it’s conduct and how it failed to do so and insisted on trampling the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s students contrary to law.
2) the importance of accepting responsibility for one’s actions
Hammer home how citizens have not only the right to defend themselves but the obligation to do so. Show how a responsible person uses firearms to be responsibly prepared against an attack by criminals. Show how it is IRRESPONSIBLE to depend on others or the police to protect yourself.
3) and recognizing the impact possession of weapons on college campuses has on others.”
Show how weapon possession makes the area safer for all on the campus.
The DA admitted no wrongdoing on his part, or on the part of the police who arrested Jeff Maxwell for a “crime” that does not exist.
see this all time, cops make up what they think are crimes to arrest you...then let the d.a.’s sort it out...all in the name of making their arrest numbers look good...
The possession of one firearm by one trained law-abiding citizen at the right place would have had a lifesaving impact on several others during the Virginia Tech rampage.
I’ve passed along my concerns to Mr. Moser and that I will be contacting my fellow and former Marines to raise funds to help defend Mr. Maxwell and then use whatever means we can to see that Moser is sued personally and severally for his part in this.
Would the actions of WOU officials and students be considered a conspiracy to deny rights and thus actionable under federal law? If so, the Marine should go after all involved. They must be made to pay for their insolence.
My sheriff has instructed me to tell no one.
If he was carrying concealed,
how was anyone to know he was carrying ?
My sheriff has instructed me to tell no one.
You rock...dropped a note...bout all I can do...
A lawsuit would help them clear their minds. I’d love to sit on that jury and award him the coffers of the “school”.
He should sue for a full refund of all tuition, fees and books he had to spend $$ on.
God knows, there are plenty of weak, talentless males infesting the bureaucracy of “educational” institutions, but my observations have been that spiteful lesbians are a real dominant force at many of these schools.
Their utter hatred and disdain for masculine, heterosexual males oozes from their every pore.
Then the Legislature in Oregon needs to remedy that.
Sue their asses off.
A key element of communist, totalitarian show trials is that the accussed must be made to sign a complete comfession. That why they wanted the term paper and dictated its’ content.
LIBERALS ARE FASCISTS.
It is not private property from what I can see.
“It became a state college called Oregon State Normal School in 1882”.
Doesn’t that make it state property and subject to state law?
He should contact the Civil Rights Division of DOJ. DOJ will of course put the perps who violated his rights in jail.
These idiots laid themselves wide open, he should impoverish them.
Western Oregon University is an Oregon University System school, employees are employees of the state and are represented by SEIU 503. It is a public 4-year school. He was on public land.
He was clearly within the law here. I sent Lars an email reminding him that the new law that he is a proponent of, the one where you get your DNA seized from you upon arrest, not conviction, that if Lars had his way, the kid could have had this injustice foisted upon him as well, as reward for being arrested by a clueless buffoon with a badge for breaking a law that doesn't exist except in the head of this jack booted thug. Yayyyyyyyyy liberty.
Let us say that if this hero had been on the scene and campus at Virginia Tech when a crazed gunman murdered several students, would they be trying to prosecute/persecute him then?
The story is a student saw the outline of a pocket knife in his back pocket as he was sitting somewhere....got “skeered” and called 911....then, when the officers “talked” to him, and asked him if he had anything else...he said “Yes, a pistol, for which I have a license to carry.” That’s how this got this far...
THANK YOU!!! I was hoping that by posting this it would get more attention.
Exactly...I’ll post the idiocy I found in the student “newspaper” about how someone was “Scared” because there was a weapon on campus....IDIOTS.
Individual brings weapons on campus in violation of state law
By: Erin Huggins
Last Wednesday morning at 11:16 a.m., Campus Public Safety (CPS) and Monmouth Police identified, detained and arrested Western student Jeffrey Maxwell in the downstairs student area of Werner University Center (WUC) for violation of ORS 166.370, Possession of a Firearm in a Public Building. CPS had sent an e-mail on Tuesday, Jan. 27, alerting the campus community about an individual who had been seen loitering around the pool area and the residence halls. Wednesday morning, CPS received a call reporting a person matching the description given in the e-mail who was carrying a knife on campus. Because weapons were involved, Assitant Director of CPS and CPS Officer Mike Hanson called Monmouth Police Department (MPD) for back-up. Sergeant Kim Dorn, Officer Matthew Olafson and a recruit officer from MPD, along with Hutchinson and Hanson, were unable to locate the individual upon an initial search of the campus. However, shortly before 11 a.m., CPS received another call about the individual and the MPD officers returned to campus.
Maxwell, who was sitting at one of the study tables across from the Service and Career Learning Center, was approached from behind by Joe Hutchinson from Campus Public Safety and MPD officers. Hutchinson asked Maxwell if he had any weapons concealed on his person.
On first response, Maxwell answered he had a knife. Hutchinson then put Maxwell's hands above his head. The second time he was asked, Maxwell said he had a gun. After the weapons were removed, officers took him into the Calapooia Room. A few minutes later, he was escorted into one of two police cars parked on Church Street outside of WUC.
Responding to why they did not evacuate WUC, Hutchinson said CPS did not know what weapons were involved and did not want to alert the suspect by a sudden flood of students leaving the building.
"If we had known he had a gun, the scenario would have been totally different," Hutchinson said.
Maxwell was initially approached because of his resemblance to the individual in CPS's e-mail, although Hutchinson said CPS has not confirmed whether or not Maxwell is the same person described in the e-mail.
Hutchinson said there have been no sightings of the person since the arrest last Wednesday.
Dorn said although Maxwell did have a loaded firearm on his person, he did not use it in a threatening way and was cooperative with the police.
Maxwell had a valid permit for possessing concealed weapons; however, the permit does not allow people to bring weapons inside public schools, private schools or courthouses.
"Even if you have a concealed weapons permit, you can't have a weapon concealed on your person if you're going to be in any buildings on campus." Dorn said. "In this instance, he just didn't know."
Hutchinson said Western firearm and munition policies are administrative and correspond to Oregon University System policies, which are not necessarily the same as state regulations.
"We go one step further and say, look, no weapons are allowed on campus, period,"Hutchinson said.
Hutchinson said he asked Maxwell why he had a gun on campus, to which Maxwell replied, "I was just scared after Virginia tech. I was just really worried about my safety." Several students witnessed the arrest, including senior Alica Tresidder, who said she initially thought the event was a drill.
"I thought they were practicing," she said about officers involved. "They had it under control. I didn't feel threatened at all."
Sophomore Carrie Miller said she thought the suspect was being arrested for drug possession, "not such serious things as a loaded gun." "I had a test I was down here [WUC] studying for. How am I supposed to concentrate for the next hour?" she questioned shortly after the arrest took place. Senior Alecia St. Germaine said her first reaction to the situation was fear. "My stomach started turning and I wanted to leave," she said. In addition, knowing an armed person could just walk onto campus makes her feel a little uneasy. "I have night class," she said. "Usually, I'm fine walking to my car. Now I'm going to second guess that." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- © Copyright 2009 Western Oregon Journal
I guess I'm blessed to live in one of the remaining formerly united states.
This happened at Western Oregon University, outside of Salem, OR.
I am still NOT clear as to whether you can legally carry (with a license) on a college campus in Oregon, but from what I heard last night from Lars Larson, you CAN....”
That area of the USA is about as left liberal as one can get.
The left over hippies are imbedded there and have been for years.
They grow pot everywhere, and the police are using resources to go after this Marine.
Does he need to change to another school? Where does he want to go? Maybe Freepers can help him???
Change schools. Sue WOU.
That regulation is poorly written. It does not say the individual can’t carry a weapon, it says the campus security shall prohibit them. The regulation also indicates it is written pursuant to another policy issued by a higher authority than the president. That original policy also may be defective. Where did the higher authority get its authority to alter something which is legal off campus?
It's not against the law. There is an exception in the general prohibition for carrying in a Public Building, which includes colleges, if one has a license to carry concealed.
Both the prohibition and the exception are in section 166.370 of Oregon Revised statutes. There is also an exception for having a weapon unloaded and locked in a vehicle.
The Code of Student Responsibilty has a provision agsinst having firearms on campus, but there seems to be no basis in the law for such policy. The statute that the code cites is "broad general powers" of the colleges, but there is no specific authority to either prohibit or a mandate to allow firearms on campus. Thus being good little liberals, they did what they wanted regardless of their authority to do it.
It would not be a right, but rather a power. Where in the statues does this "power" come from? It looks to me like they are citing the "criminal trespass while carrying a firearm" statute as their authority. But that does not apply unless you are trespassing, and you're trespassing on campus if you are a registered student. Or a member of the public in most cases. They are trying to say that since they don't allow firearms, you are trespassing if you have them, and further you are trespassing while in possession of a firearm. The problem with the latte is that it's only defined if you would have been trespassing without the firearm. Or that is my read of the statute at least, and apparently of the DA as well.
IOW, it's all BS.
They don’t call it the Left Coast without reason.
But colleges are not included in that list, the "schools" are high school level and below. Look it up.
My stomach started turning and I wanted to leave," she said. In addition, knowing an armed person could just walk onto campus makes her feel a little uneasy. "I have night class," she said. "Usually, I'm fine walking to my car. Now I'm going to second guess that."
What a hoplophobic Maroon. She should be asking that armed Marine to walk her to her car, because as she said, "anyone can walk onto campus", armed or not. The ones with evil intent are the ones to worry about. No "policy" is going to stop them. You can't even expel them if they are not students, and I'll bet this case eventually says you can't expel them if they are students, as long as they are committing no crime, nor violating any rules the College/University has the authority to make.
File WOU as yet another college my daughter will not be going to.
I agree BS.
digging a little deeper, i don’t see where the WOU President has any authority to do other than what the law allows.
Course it could be buried in some other part of the statute