Posted on 02/13/2009 4:47:00 AM PST by cc2k
Conference Report to Accompany H.R. 1 - The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
Thomas had no link at midnight when I finally turned in. When I woke up this morning, around 6:30, there was a blank link to the conference report. It was after 7:30 before the link to the rules committee appeared.
Does anyone have the text of the resolution that the House passed to allow 48 hours for the public to review this before they voted? Did it say a "searchable" version had to be posted?
Thank you for your vigilance..and those links. Very much appreciated.
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Awwwww.
[Crying towel alert]
Geraldo Rivera was on Fox&Friends. He said he had a bad dream that the stimulus bill didn’t work.
UN-Believable!
Not searchable text.
Of course not.
(burn)
I can’t get the file to download completely.
Is anyone else getting all 496 pps of the “A” report?
Just asking...
My download speed is too slow. How many pages is it?
This is wrong! Pure and simple...wrong. There is NO WAY that anyone can convince me that ANY of these talking head stuffed shirt Libtards have READ this piece tripe.
They were still porking it up ‘til late night, last night; hours after the announced ‘compromise’ by Reid and his thieving compatriots.
And, the 48-hour comment window promised by Pelosi? Don’t hold your breath. It ain’t happenin’...
It is searchable for me...
I wanted to make a suggestion.
If someone has Adobe Acrobat Full version, they can use OCR text recognition to turn the images into text.
Then you will be able to search.
Also, I don’t know if standard Adobe Reader will allow text search or not.
Thanks all for your diligence.
That's helpful news. Thanks!
All I am doing is clicking on the links and they auto open in Adobe as a web page and the Adobe search function works.
Just heard on ABC radio that Sen. Coburn wants to read every page of bill before voting on it. Only heard a snippet but they said there was some procedure he could use to delay vote. Anyone else hearing this?
I just called my congressdork’s office. I asked how he could possibly read and digest one page every 30 seconds until the vote at 3:30 today. No answer. I then asked if he was in his office digesting this legislation. No answer. I then told him that I was going to buy another house and two new cars, not pay my bill and have the government bail me out. I told him that I was sick of paying my bills, living within my means, eliminating my debt and getting screwed.
Well one way is to object to an unanimous consent to dispense with the reading of the bill on the floor of the Senate. It only takes one Senator to object to the unanimous consent. At that point the entire bill must be read into the record, in this case 1400- 1500 pages.
Let’s hope they do this. That will give everybody lots of time to digest what’s in this..and then hopefully barfing it out.
Why isn’t EVERY Republican demanding that Democrats abide by their own standard of putting the bill out for 48 hours before it is passed, and why isn’t EVERY Republican demanding that Obama wait 5 days before signing the bill like he promised during the campaign?
There's also Senate Rule XXVIII which states:
The problem with Rule 28 is that a 3/5ths vote (60 Senators) can set asside the objection.
9. (a)(1) It shall not be in order to vote on the adoption of a report of a committee of conference unless such report has been available to Members and to the general public for at least 48 hours before such vote. If a point of order is sustained under this paragraph, then the conference report shall be set aside.(2) For purposes of this paragraph, a report of a committee of conference is made available to the general public as of the time it is posted on a publicly accessible website controlled by a Member, committee, Library of Congress, or other office of Congress, or the Government Printing Office, as reported to the Presiding Officer by the Secretary of the Senate.
(b)(1) This paragraph may be waived in the Senate with respect to the pending conference report by an affirmative vote of three-fifths of the Members, duly chosen and sworn. A motion to waive this paragraph shall be debatable for not to exceed 1 hour equally divided between the Majority Leader and the Minority Leader or their designees.
(2) An affirmative vote of three-fifths of the Members, duly chosen and sworn, shall be required to sustain an appeal of the ruling of the Chair on a point of order raised under this paragraph. An appeal of the ruling of the Chair shall be debatable for not to exceed 1 hour equally divided between the Majority and the Minority Leader or their designees.
(c) This paragraph may be waived by joint agreement of the Majority Leader and the Minority Leader of the Senate, upon their certification that such waiver is necessary as a result of a significant disruption to Senate facilities or to the availability of the Internet.
PDF of H.Report 111-17: discussion of H.Res.168 - the rule for debate of the conference report to accompany H.R.1 in the House.
This refers to clause 8 of rule XXII which provides for a 3 day layover (waived). I think the senate rule has the 48 hour clause, and it too is waivable.
9. (a)(1) It shall not be in order to vote on the adoption of a report of a committee of conference unless such report has been available to Members and to the general public for at least 48 hours before such vote. If a point of order is sustained under this paragraph, then the conference report shall be set aside.Senate Rule XXVIII (partial)
It's none of our bussiness to know what they are doing.
/sarc
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Wouldn’t it be great if at least one Senator said he wanted the entire bill read on the Senate floor? He could justify it as a means to inform the American voters, and as a means to inform the Democrat and Republican House members who are being kept from knowing its contents by Nancy Pelosi.
And also, a Senator who wanted the entire bill read on the Senate floor could innocently claim that it was in the spirit of TRANSPARENCY!
Not reading a bill giving away taxpayer trillions and voting ‘yes’ is as impeachable as Blago.
Gingrich said last night that NO ONE could read the thing by the vote.
Though it can’t do much else, regular Reader does let you search text.
Thanks,
I’ve had full acrobat at work so long, I forgot what Reader’s limitations are.
Yeah, the full Acrobat is much cooler. Mine is so old now it doesn’t have as many features as the newer Pro version, but I don’t want to shell out the dough just for some new bells and whistles.
It looks like I can save the pdf at txt ... if it would be of help, is there a place on freerepublic.com that I can post them?
Can the Republican (i.e. American) Senators block a vote by not showing up on the Senate floor ?
This has been done in the past here in Texas when the Deomcrats (i.e. Socialists) refused to leave Arkansas for an important vote on redistricting.
The problem seems to be on the server end. My dialup was only getting 2 to 3 K per second. And the connection to the server kept dropping in Firefox. I'm pulling them down with wget for Windoze to pull them down, and that keeps retrying when it gets kicked off.
I went to the library to try and get them and bring them home on a thumb drive. Even with the high speed connection there, I couldn't keep connected long enough to get the whole things.
It starts on page 286 of the pdf file (section A) and it is 136 pages long!!!
God help us!
"(c) This paragraph may be waived by joint agreement of the Majority Leader and the Minority Leader of the Senate, upon their certification that such waiver is necessary as a result of a significant disruption to Senate facilities or to the availability of the Internet."
Yes. I made a hobby of poring over Senate rules, in the context of closely watching the Senate "do its thing," for a few years. When things go smoothly, it's because the Republicans went along, that is, didn't raise any formal objection.
My attitude toward the Senate is that it's a circus made up of low-life scum.
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