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Extinct Ibex Clone Dies at Birth
ICR ^ | February 14, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 02/14/2009 7:52:25 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

Extinct Ibex Clone Dies at Birth

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

The last of a type of wild mountain goat was found dead in the mountains of northern Spain in 2000. The Pyrenean ibex, characterized by its curved horns, was officially declared extinct, but not before tissue samples were collected and preserved in liquid nitrogen.

Scientists used DNA extracted from the samples and, replacing the genetic material in eggs from domestic goats, cloned a female Pyrenean ibex—the first extinct animal to be cloned. Unfortunately, the clone died shortly after birth “due to physical defects in its lungs. Other cloned animals, including sheep, have been born with similar lung defects,” the Telegraph reported.1

Indeed, cloned animals suffer from several common deficiencies, including premature aging due to the starting DNA having shortened telomeres, lengths of DNA occurring at the ends of chromosomes.2 The frozen DNA likely had mutations also. This is because “even when preserved in ice, DNA degrades over time and this leaves gaps in the genetic information required to produce a healthy animal.”1

This form of whole-animal cloning reflects the biblically consistent biological principle of biogenesis, that life begets life. In this case, the preserved DNA was removed from a skin cell and placed into a live goat egg cell. The whole female goat, complete with her womb and an egg, was required to produce the clone. The ibex cloning would not have worked if the embryo had been placed in, for example, a female wolf’s womb. This occurred according to the Creator’s plan, where creatures reproduce after their kinds.

Another observation involves the shortening of telomeric DNA with each cell division and the accumulation of additional DNA damage as the immediate physical causes of aging, which leads to death.3 How did those processes begin? Why do living organisms undergo aging, corruption, and death—unless the Bible’s description of death’s origin is accurate?

It seems that the more complex a system is, the more that can go wrong. Bacteria are essentially self-cloning, can regenerate their telomeric DNA each generation, and are the best adapted to survive in the widest array of environments. If novel life forms arose by natural forces favoring the fittest—as evolutionary theory claims—then bacteria should have been the pinnacle of evolution. “Complex, highly evolved life, like the human, has no reason to appear. So why should these chance mutations plan such complex types of animals?”4

Finally, though DNA is damaged much more easily outside a living cell, damage also adds up over generations, even with the remarkable array of DNA damage detection, prevention, repair, and replacement mechanisms that were engineered into living cells. Not only do cells accumulate damage over time that ultimately leads to death, but 100 mutations per generation in reproductive cells eventually lead to extinction of whole kinds.5 Such accumulated DNA damage may have contributed to the demise of the Pyrenean ibex after 1981 when “just 30 remained.”1 Other species such as the Tasmanian Devil are also showing signs of collapse.6 The observations that whole kinds are nearing extinction due to genetic degradation, and many are already gone, run counter to the evolutionary concept that novel life forms emerge over time.

If whole-animal cloning is going to work, instead of producing one non-viable offspring out of 439 embryos (as this project did), it must somehow restore to an acceptable level the original genetic information by making the required individual DNA base changes. Without a wholesale restoration of uncorrupted DNA, life on earth is doomed to eventually die out.

Thankfully, God has promised to make a “new heaven, and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away.”7 The God of creation will be the God of re-creation. Ultimately, He is the only One capable of performing a true resurrection.

References

  1. Gray, R. and R. Dobson. Extinct ibex is resurrected by cloning. The Telegraph. Posted on telegraph.co.uk, February 4, 2009, accessed February 6, 2009.
  2. Xu, J. and X. Yang. 2003. Will cloned animals suffer premature aging – The story at the end of clones' chromosomes. Reproductive Biology and Endocrinology. 1: 105.
  3. Murphy, M. P. and L. Partridge. 2008. Toward a Control Theory Analysis of Aging. Annual Review of Biochemistry, 77: 777-798.
  4. Chen, J.Y. Quoted in Heeren, F. J. 2003. Was the First Craniate on the Road to Cognition? A Modern Craniate’s Perspective. Evolution and Cognition. 9 (2): 142-156.
  5. Sanford, J. et al. 2008. Using Numerical Simulation to Test the Validity of Neo-Darwinian Theory. Proceedings of the Sixth International Conference on Creationism. Pittsburgh, PA: Creation Science Fellowship and Dallas, TX: Institute for Creation Research, 165-175.
  6. Sherwin, F. Tasmanian Devils: Extinction, not Macroevolution. ICR News. Posted on icr.org July 22, 2008, accessed February 6, 2009.
  7. Revelation 21:1.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: agingshortened; birth; clone; cloning; createdkinds; creation; dies; dna; evolution; ibex; intelligentdesign; kinds; mutation; premature; pyrenean; telomeres
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1 posted on 02/14/2009 7:52:25 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: gondramB; editor-surveyor; metmom; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; GourmetDan; MrB; valkyry1; ...

Happy Valentine’s Day!


2 posted on 02/14/2009 7:54:23 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

.....This occurred according to the Creator’s plan, where creatures reproduce after their kinds......

Pure tripe


3 posted on 02/14/2009 7:56:42 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . The original point of America was not to be Europe)
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To: bert

On what basis do you know this?


4 posted on 02/14/2009 7:58:48 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Guess they are still missing that link... the Adam was NOT alive - living until the ‘breath of life’ (means soul) was breathed into his nostrils.

And the evols allll admit they are incapable of dealing with things not visible to the human naked eye...

5 posted on 02/14/2009 8:00:57 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: bert

What a great article, and very insightful!

Life is very indeed extremely complex. It’s hard to believe that some think that lightning struck a mud puddle millions of years ago and created the first cell.

Thanks for posting!


6 posted on 02/14/2009 8:02:19 AM PST by wgb
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To: GodGunsGuts

Human stem cell research will fix this, don’t ya’ know?


7 posted on 02/14/2009 8:08:43 AM PST by LiberConservative
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To: LiberConservative

Just ask B. Hussein Obama!


8 posted on 02/14/2009 8:11:33 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
Without a wholesale restoration of uncorrupted DNA, life on earth is doomed to eventually die out.

Interesting concept.

9 posted on 02/14/2009 8:16:46 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Somebody say Ibex? Photobucket Photobucket
10 posted on 02/14/2009 8:24:59 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: GodGunsGuts

Just practice for human cloning, we can’t wait!


11 posted on 02/14/2009 8:27:00 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dusty Road

Not just any old ibex, the Pyrenean ibex.


12 posted on 02/14/2009 8:36:32 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Great article. More proof life and genetics were not just random events.


13 posted on 02/14/2009 8:39:09 AM PST by auntyfemenist (Obama lives in happy rainbow unicorn land.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Finally, though DNA is damaged much more easily outside a living cell, damage also adds up over generations, even with the remarkable array of DNA damage detection, prevention, repair, and replacement mechanisms that were engineered into living cells. Not only do cells accumulate damage over time that ultimately leads to death, but 100 mutations per generation in reproductive cells eventually lead to extinction of whole kinds.

Since a generation can only take minutes or hours for bacteria, shouldn't they be gone by now?

14 posted on 02/14/2009 8:47:47 AM PST by Moonman62 (I didn't compromise my soul to be popular. -- Jimmy Carter)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Happy Valentine’s Day!


15 posted on 02/14/2009 8:51:18 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: GodGunsGuts
Finally, though DNA is damaged much more easily outside a living cell, damage also adds up over generations, even with the remarkable array of DNA damage detection, prevention, repair, and replacement mechanisms that were engineered into living cells. Not only do cells accumulate damage over time that ultimately leads to death, but 100 mutations per generation in reproductive cells eventually lead to extinction of whole kinds.

Wouldn't this mean that humans today would be greatly inferior to humans from 6000 years ago, and less numerous?

16 posted on 02/14/2009 8:51:58 AM PST by Moonman62 (I didn't compromise my soul to be popular. -- Jimmy Carter)
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To: GodGunsGuts
The ibex cloning would not have worked if the embryo had been placed in, for example, a female wolf’s womb. This occurred according to the Creator’s plan, where creatures reproduce after their kinds.

One of my favorite Bible passages reads,

"Clone not your ibex in a wolf's womb".

17 posted on 02/14/2009 8:59:32 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionists, still bad at math.....)
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To: GodGunsGuts

God’s plan includes cloning.


18 posted on 02/14/2009 9:00:35 AM PST by nufsed
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To: GodGunsGuts

Just don’t add any frog DNA! ;-)


19 posted on 02/14/2009 9:02:19 AM PST by Twotone
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To: GodGunsGuts

Makes you wonder if what is meant to be extinct won’t stay extinct.


20 posted on 02/14/2009 9:07:39 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Do not read this tagline.)
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