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Michael Steele: You have no reason to trust us at this point
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Posted on 02/14/2009 3:13:05 PM PST by Def Conservative

Us” meaning the GOP, of course. I appreciate his willingness to beat himself up in the name of regaining the public’s trust, but, er, is the man of Steele being perhaps a bit too self-deprecating here? Even Beck’s taken aback by the brutal candor of it (but in a good way!)

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1 posted on 02/14/2009 3:13:06 PM PST by Def Conservative
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To: Def Conservative

No, we don’t.
Show me the money!


2 posted on 02/14/2009 3:13:54 PM PST by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: Def Conservative

Yea that’s it reverse psych. That will convince the adults.


3 posted on 02/14/2009 3:16:53 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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To: Def Conservative
"Michael Steele: You have no reason to trust us at this point"

The understatement of the year!

4 posted on 02/14/2009 3:17:22 PM PST by 50mm (My respect for zero has reached zero)
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To: Def Conservative

All we can do is wait and see if Steele is going to walk the walk of Conservatism. We Conservatives need to promote Conservatives in their campaigns.


5 posted on 02/14/2009 3:19:30 PM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: Def Conservative

Boot out the three Senaturds and we’ll trust you all right!


6 posted on 02/14/2009 3:25:55 PM PST by Flintlock
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To: Def Conservative
I appreciate Steele's comments but we need leadership and we need a coalition in Washington that is STRONG, AND OPENLY OPPOSED TO THE RADICALISM AND DECEIT OF THE LEFT. When that day comes, I will reconsider rejoining the Repub party.
7 posted on 02/14/2009 3:26:21 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Def Conservative

Well, I like this better than the whiney “we lost our way.” This statement by Steele has TEETH in it. This is the kind of spice that is MISSING from the GOP.


8 posted on 02/14/2009 3:27:51 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Def Conservative

He is 1000% correct, Lucy has moved the football too many times. When they actually propose legislation that fixes the financial messes they have made, they will be moving in the right direction.


9 posted on 02/14/2009 3:28:12 PM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: Def Conservative

I didn’t leave the Republican party, the Republican party left me.


10 posted on 02/14/2009 3:28:20 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Def Conservative
It's a start. The first step for an addict is to acknowledge he has a problem.

That said, not sure if it means anything at this point since fair elections are now history.

11 posted on 02/14/2009 3:29:01 PM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Lexinom

All these ‘statements’ don’t mean sh@t.


12 posted on 02/14/2009 3:32:34 PM PST by raptor29
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To: newfreep
That said, not sure if it means anything at this point since fair elections are now history.

That's what I think. When Hussein is finished, it will take more than political opposition to get it back, if it's even possible. The rats aren't funding ACORN for no reason, and why would the census, of all things in this economy, be a priority to a new administration if they weren't rapidly consolidating their lock on power?
13 posted on 02/14/2009 3:36:02 PM PST by mrsmel (Put the Gitmo terrorists near Capitol Hill.)
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To: Flintlock
Boot out the three Senaturds and we’ll trust you all right!

I'm not sure that the three crossovers didn't have the GOP blessing.

I've thought about this quite a bit. Maybe the GOP wanted it both ways. Let porkulus pass using three libtards so as not to appear to be "obstructionist" to economic recovery, but reserve the right to claim no ownership of the destructive aftermath. It's no coincidence that the three libtards face minimal voter backlash in their liberal states compared to Republican senators from a conservative state.

IMO, all the GOP cares about these days is political cover.

14 posted on 02/14/2009 3:41:51 PM PST by 50mm (My respect for zero has reached zero)
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To: Def Conservative
Michael Steele's views on various issues


15 posted on 02/14/2009 3:43:55 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: org.whodat

PROPOSING doesn’t mean anything. We will watch, and we will see, who the pubes put up in ‘10. I only started donating money to political campaigns in the early ‘00s, and that came to a screeching halt this last time. I decided I would vote for mccampaign but I wasn’t going to throw my money away on him.


16 posted on 02/14/2009 3:45:24 PM PST by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: raptor29
”All these ‘statements’ don’t mean sh@t.”

Not now they don’t. Where the hell were these “Republicans” when it counted? Where the hell were they when given the 12 year opportunity to counter a half century of democrate/marxist corruption and blew it by being more democrat than democrats? What we need is a viable third party option.

17 posted on 02/14/2009 3:47:10 PM PST by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard)
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To: Incorrigible

Me too!!!


18 posted on 02/14/2009 3:49:27 PM PST by browniexyz
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To: Flintlock

THREE STOOGES would be a better name for them> That is what I called them today when the GOP called asking for donations to fight the threat of socilaism...it is already here..as of yesterday!


19 posted on 02/14/2009 3:53:35 PM PST by celtic gal (I think the democRATs should change their logo from a jackass to a RAT with a long tail.)
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To: All

blah blah, have McConnell and Cornyn take the 3Amigos Committee Positions away and we’ll talk and bank.


20 posted on 02/14/2009 4:05:45 PM PST by rbmillerjr (2/6/09 The Day the Republican Party died.....Reagan's Birthday nonetheless)
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To: celtic gal

What have you done since Friday to cause us to trust you?
Boot the three Amigo Rino’s out of the caucus. Strip them of committee assignments and then maybe move their offices to Alexandria VA.


21 posted on 02/14/2009 4:06:00 PM PST by Oldexpat (Drill Here, Drill There..we must drill everywhere.)
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To: Def Conservative

I am almost convinced that the Republican party is a dead duck. My view is lets all quit the party join the democrats and put our candidates in through them.

Can you imagine the Democrats faced with all those ex Republicans coming in and taking their party from them?


22 posted on 02/14/2009 4:08:04 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Def Conservative
Michael...

You can start by running the place like a Corleone...

Make the 3 traitors an offer they can't refuse...

that offer is here $25 bucks and a Limo to DNC headquarters, leave defect and don't let the door hit you in the @$$.

It is time to purge these RINO &@$+@&rD$ once and for all...

There I feel better now...

23 posted on 02/14/2009 4:08:50 PM PST by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: Venturer

It’s not a bad start


24 posted on 02/14/2009 4:09:11 PM PST by SanFranDan
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To: org.whodat

Love the Lucy analogy!ha.

Steele is good. Articulate, able to get the message out.

In his statement is a clever hidden appeal to moderates...a way to turn around the old cliches of conservatives and Reps...its a great opening for “we are a NEW party, we are with the times, our values and issues DO have a place in these times!!!” there are many conservatives who just are not thrilled with the GOP..but could be a strong force.


25 posted on 02/14/2009 4:13:10 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (GROWN -UPS RULE!!!)
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To: Def Conservative
Good for him!
You can't fix a problem if you do not acknowledge it's existence.

He might be just the man to slap some sense into the republicans who have been running amok the last eight years.

Here is a good place to start:

Republican Rogue's Gallery: The Porkulus Turncoats

Stolen from Doug Ross at http://directorblue.blogspot.com/
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26 posted on 02/14/2009 4:16:32 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: 50mm

You are so right.They are all political elite.Their children will have all the right doors open to them regardless of membership in either party.We were sold a bill of goods with no other choices.I still say this is all by design moving us closer to third world status.Do I wish ill on these people?You bet and the sooner the better.


27 posted on 02/14/2009 4:16:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Def Conservative
Us” meaning the GOP, of course. I appreciate his willingness to beat himself up in the name of regaining the public’s trust, but, er, is the man of Steele being perhaps a bit too self-deprecating here?

He's telling the truth -- the GOP squandered its political capital by becoming a party of soundbites and gotcha on the one hand, and a party of trying to avoid seeming "mean" on the other.

Priciples? Real leaders? An intellectually honest and coherent platform? Nope -- we gave them all up.

28 posted on 02/14/2009 4:19:43 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Dustbunny
All we can do is wait and see if Steele is going to walk the walk of Conservatism.

Wait? WAIT FOR WHAT??? I've been waiting since 1989. How long does it take to send an email to the three turncoats in the Senate telling them to vote the party line on important, no....vital, legislation like the Porkulus Bill or find another Party to run for election in?

29 posted on 02/14/2009 4:23:34 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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To: Iron Munro
Fixed a the name.


30 posted on 02/14/2009 4:24:26 PM PST by 50mm (My respect for zero has reached zero)
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To: imahawk
You are so right.They are all political elite.Their children will have all the right doors open to them regardless of membership in either party.We were sold a bill of goods with no other choices.I still say this is all by design moving us closer to third world status.Do I wish ill on these people?You bet and the sooner the better.

If Steele sanctions the three libtards in any way, I will drop dead of a heart attack. If he does nothing, then I will be proven right.

31 posted on 02/14/2009 4:31:45 PM PST by 50mm (My respect for zero has reached zero)
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To: 50mm
Yes. they need to be stripped of any committee membership, staff budgets reduced and given the cr$piest offices in the Senate building.
32 posted on 02/14/2009 4:49:09 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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To: Dustbunny
A good place to show he means business, would be to gather the TRUE CONSERVATIVES from the GOP Party....and there are a hand full, have them back him, stand united...and make an example from the 3 traitorous RINO'S that thumbed their noses at all the phone calls, faxes,letters from the public....and show them the way across the isle...and this time tell them they need to get out of the Republican Party...they are a disgrace...and it isn't as if this is the first time they've pulled the stunt of “reaching across the isle”....you know, bipartisanship is a fine thing, but you have to have some common sense when you do it...know WHO AND WHAT you're dealing with...there are times when you really need to grow a spine, call on one's principles and stand unified with one's party and constituents.

I was so proud of the band of Republicans in the House that stood united, not once, but twice when voting on that shameful bill...and no one is saying a bill of limited means shouldn't be available, but what kind of nonsense was pulled here...a pork payback...littered with all kinds of pet projects. I know that Hussein likes to say there is no pork in that thing. Well, to go back to the familiar saying...”you can put lipstick on a pig sir, it's still a pig” seems to fit the situation quite well.

By the way, there are a few more who maybe would be a more comfortable fit across the isle with the libs...I'm especially thinking of one man who has pulled the stunt of crossing over and voting with the leftie libs more times than I care to remember...and who, by the way, ran a lousy campaign last year.....I'm just sayin’....

33 posted on 02/14/2009 5:00:57 PM PST by Molly T.
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To: org.whodat

Love the Lucy analogy!ha.

Steele is good. Articulate, able to get the message out.

In his statement is a clever hidden appeal to moderates...a way to turn around the old cliches of conservatives and Reps...its a great opening for “we are a NEW party, we are with the times, our values and issues DO have a place in these times!!!” there are many conservatives who just are not thrilled with the GOP..but could be a strong force.


34 posted on 02/14/2009 5:26:57 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (GROWN -UPS RULE!!!)
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To: Def Conservative

35 posted on 02/14/2009 5:32:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The protection of unalienable rights is the sworn duty of all, at every level of government.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I remember an old tv western with Chuck Connors. He was a traitor (supposedly, in this instance) and the Captain ripped off his insignia and marched him out of the fort at the beginning of every episode.

I would love to see this happen to the “Trio”. I, however, am not a politician. (Thank goodness.)

The ways of the politicians are somewhat insidious. Not usually a full on attack.

I think I'll just keep an eye on what happens to the Trio that may fly under the wire. They could well be punished and forced to put a “D” by their names in other ways that we may not be aware of. From a publicity angle, marching them out of the fort right after the cowardly deed is done might not be a good thing.

36 posted on 02/14/2009 5:36:01 PM PST by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Dustbunny
All we can do is wait and see if Steele is going to walk the walk of Conservatism.

Michael Steele on Gun Control

Q: Your views on gun control?

A: My views are pretty much in line with the governor's. I grew up under some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. You can have all the gun control laws in the country, but if you don't enforce them, people are going to find a way to protect themselves. We need to recognize that bad people are doing bad things with these weapons. It's not the law-abiding citizens, it's not the person who uses it as a hobby.

Q: Should people have access to buy assault weapons?

A: Society should draw lines. What do you need an assault weapon for, if you're going hunting? That's overkill. But I don't think that means you go to a total ban for those who want to use gun for skeet shooting or hunting or things like that But what's the point of passing gun laws if we're not going to enforce them? If you want to talk about gun control, that's where you need to start. We've got 300 gun laws on the books right now. At the end of the day, it's about how we enforce the law.

Source: Washington Post interview Oct 16, 2006

___________________________________

So Mr. Steele is right, we have no reason at all to trust him.

With "friends" like this, who needed enemies.

37 posted on 02/14/2009 5:49:29 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: berdie

Loved that show.

38 posted on 02/14/2009 5:54:27 PM PST by 50mm (My respect for zero has reached zero)
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To: berdie
The show was “Branded”. Chuck's character was innocent but the Army did not believe it so he was branded a traitor. Politicians and honor are two things that rarely meet. I hope what is done to them is not so secret it never sees the light of day. In any case Sphincter most likely will be out whining about it what ever it is!
39 posted on 02/14/2009 6:03:18 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Chevron 7 will not engage!)
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To: 50mm

Thanks! I couldn’t remember the name.


40 posted on 02/14/2009 6:04:50 PM PST by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Couldn’t remember the name of the show.

I guess if it’s not a real overt attack and accomplishes the same goal, Arlen can whine till the cows come home.

“Politicians and honor are two things that rarely meet...”

Truer words were never said.


41 posted on 02/14/2009 6:10:39 PM PST by berdie (Philosophies of the school room in one generation will reflect the government philosophy of the next)
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To: Def Conservative
Michael Steele: "You have no reason to trust us at this point"

Admitting the problem is only the start of the healing process. The GOP has a long way to go to make up ground lost throughout the first half of the decade. The house and most of the Senators took the first step, and Steele took the second. 2 steps isn't enough to discern definite direction but it's a start.

42 posted on 02/14/2009 6:29:42 PM PST by meyer (The left is flooding the ship - let's quit bailing water. We are all John Galt.)
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To: Def Conservative

Recognizing the problem is the first step toward correcting it. He gets it. We are at the turning of the tide. 2010 tells the tale.


43 posted on 02/14/2009 6:44:25 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Def Conservative
Dear Mr. Steele,

Having voted Republican all for all 30+ years of my adult life and having worked in numerous elections at the local, county, state and national level, I feel I am qualified to say one or two things about the state of the Republican Party . . .

You suck.

Unfortunately, you are currently the only game in town. Please do not be so foolish as to assume that privilege for long. If you do not reform ASAP, you will permanently lose your base.

We are America. We are the ones that go to work, innovate, save, serve in the armed forces and pay the onerous taxes that our national fifth column endlessly enacts. We are rapidly approaching a limit to our good will and faith in the leadership this country offers and we will not tolerate continued forbearance with people like Specter, Snowe and Collins.

We plead with you. We beg you. We appeal to the better angles of your nature . . .

Bring us change we can believe in - bring back the unashamed defense of America, our Constitution and the ideals of liberty and freedom that we all are longing for.

At all costs, do NOT repackage some lame flock of speech that touts Americanism and delivers compromise and preserves big government and the tyranny it brings.

These times and these lines may be your last warnings. Please consult the word and works of our Founders for the guidance you will need in these most perilous times.

As loyal Americans, we plead with you and pray for wisdom as you approach your duties. The blood and loyalty of all true Americans goes with you. We pray that you serve this generation - and all of those that have gone before - with the same clarity, passion and zeal that inspired men (and women) to lay down their lives.

With all of my sincerest wishes,

Working Class Filth
44 posted on 02/14/2009 6:44:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Flintlock

Wrong answer. A weak flank is better than no flank at all. Their time will come.


45 posted on 02/14/2009 6:45:42 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Def Conservative
Dear Mr. Steele,

Having voted Republican all for all 30+ years of my adult life and having worked in numerous elections at the local, county, state and national level, I feel I am qualified to say one or two things about the state of the Republican Party . . .

You suck.

Unfortunately, you are currently the only game in town. Please do not be so foolish as to assume that privilege's for long. If you do not reform ASAP, you will permanently lose your base.

We are America. We are the ones that go to work, innovate, save, serve in the armed forces and pay the onerous taxes that our national fifth column endlessly enacts. We are rapidly approaching a limit to our good will and faith in the leadership this country offers and we will not tolerate continued forbearance with people like Specter, Snowe and Collins.

We plead with you. We beg you. We appeal to the better angles of your nature . . .

Bring us change we can believe in - bring back the unashamed defense of America, our Constitution and the ideals of liberty and freedom that we all are longing for.

At all costs, do NOT repackage some lame flock of speech that touts Americanism and delivers compromise and preserves big government and the tyranny it brings.

These times and these lines may be your last warnings. Please consult the word and works of our Founders for the guidance you will need in these most perilous times.

As loyal Americans, we plead with you and pray for wisdom as you approach your duties. The blood and loyalty of all true Americans goes with you. We pray that you serve this generation - and all of those that have gone before - with the same clarity, passion and zeal that inspired men (and women) to lay down their lives.

With all of my sincerest wishes,

Working Class Filth
46 posted on 02/14/2009 6:47:02 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: mrsmel
That's what I think. When Hussein is finished, it will take more than political opposition to get it back, if it's even possible. The rats aren't funding ACORN for no reason, and why would the census, of all things in this economy, be a priority to a new administration if they weren't rapidly consolidating their lock on power

and you get to hear the talk jocks talk all day while the commies are in action. Yea, Michael, throw these 3 Senators out. A vote is a vote - its result is the same from either in the corrupt "Two-Party Cartel".

47 posted on 02/14/2009 6:59:09 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: Def Conservative

Steele, you can rest assured I don’t trust you and you won’t get a dime from me. Now you appear after going underground until the socialist bill passed. Screw you Michael Steele.


48 posted on 02/14/2009 7:02:17 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Def Conservative

Mr. Steele is blowing his options right out of the gate if he doesn’t clamp down with serious reforms (defund Specter, Collins, Snow) and show some teeth. Unless that happens, the country clubbers will continue to run the show by offering @sshats like Jeb. IMO, Sarah needs to seriously consider a third party run. If she does, several things happen ;

1. Conservatives will have a home. Fact is, they don’t at this time. For several decades we’ve all been in thralldom to CC pubbies and (to some degree) we’ve known it. However, it was the only game in town so we have served it well - treason and betrayal at the top is not our fault. My personal suggestion for Sarah’s new party name would be: The No-Bull Moose Party.

2. A focused message and solid party agenda will serve our cause than any ‘big tent’ ideals ever could. I think that on-target information and positions can even punch through MSM static and gub’mint anti-1A “reforms.” It will also allow the pubbies to serve as a foil or contrast of institutional ineffectualism and compromise in the face of an imminent, concerted and well-armed enemy.

3. Even losses will solidify and grow a conservative party message. Losers like Michael Medved and long-time pubbies will decry this suggestion, but the reality is that the time is too late and our current party system too weak to meet the crisis. Think Titanic at 1:00 AM and imagine some fool trying to minimize individual actions and tell people that ‘authorities are going to bring help.’ Conservatives are, by definition, individualists and dilution of our principles to save them is not only illogical but positively anathema to them. Clarity of ideals and value of Liberty, set forth in consistent ways, will rally followers and heretofore party dolts to the real core of Americanism.

4. With a growing bank of solid conservative material, traditional barriers like race, gender and faith could be swept aside in a tidal wave of obviousness. For example, in the last election, my local races featured two black women against RAT candidates. In both races, the MN GOP declined help because the races were losers so money would be misspent. In conservative circles, we have a whole army of women, minorities and multi-faith candidates. A ticket composed of Palin/Jindal for example. In fact, the case for sexism and racism endemic in the RAT party could finally be brought home by minorities alone.

5. Conservative money would flow in torrents precisely because we’d know it was being used as meant. Even if I back a loser, I still know my principles are being sent forward. With the pubbies, every dime spent goes into an increasingly compromised RAThole. Sooner or later, bigger monies from businesses and institutions desiring greater liberty would be withdrawn from the main game in town (i.e., the RATs and the pubbies).

6. As things continue to deteriorate, this option only gets better and better for Americans seeking direct action and straight talk. Conversely, as things worsen, our Marxist enemies in the RAT party can only sharpen their focus and alienate more traditional RAT minions because the true nature of the RAT party becomes impossible to embrace. Consequently, things become more and more untenable for the bogus parties in the middle trying to pretend they’re something they’re not. If a conservative contender emerges from the status quo first, the new territory is theirs to define and command.


49 posted on 02/14/2009 7:03:46 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: Venturer

I am almost convinced that the Republican party is a dead duck. My view is lets all quit the party join the democrats and put our candidates in through them.

Can you imagine the Democrats faced with all those ex Republicans coming in and taking their party from them?

________________

I love it!! haha


50 posted on 02/14/2009 7:04:29 PM PST by mojitojoe (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free.)
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