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Lou Dobbs on Bill Clinton's push for the "Fairness Doctrine" [aka censorship]
CNN / Lou Dobbs ^

Posted on 02/14/2009 11:20:37 PM PST by Righting

DOBBS: Former President Bill Clinton today speaking out on balance in the media and calling back the Fairness Doctrine, the former president talking with radio talk show host Mario Solis Marsh (ph).

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

VOICE OF BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Well you either ought to have the Fairness Doctrine or we ought to have more balance on the other side. Because essentially, there's always been a lot of big money to support the right-wing talk shows. And let's face it, you know Rush Limbaugh is fairly entertaining, even when he's saying things that I think are ridiculous.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

DOBBS: Now, the former president calling for the Fairness Doctrine would only imply, of course, to broadcasters. It's interesting he's not calling for fairness or a Fairness Doctrine for "The New York Times," "The Washington Post", the "L.A. Times," or ABC News, CBS News, NBC News. Isn't that odd that he would only be interested in so-called fairness for radio?

Obviously as a radio talk show host, as an American citizen, as a journalist, you know I think the former president is out of his cotton picking mind and needs to go away on this issue and the sooner the better. This idea that the government would decide what is balanced broadcast and fair broadcasting is purely a censorship doctrine. There is no other way to look at it. Purely a censorship document and hopefully we won't get to a point that we'll have a central command economy and nation, anytime soon.

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1 posted on 02/14/2009 11:20:38 PM PST by Righting
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To: Righting

Dobbs, another useless RINO. Hey Mr. RINO, the Democratic Party is way over that way (looks west to see San Fransisco)


2 posted on 02/14/2009 11:23:21 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
I would characterize Lou Dobbs as “less evil than others on CNN”.
3 posted on 02/14/2009 11:24:33 PM PST by Righting
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To: Righting

“cotton picking mind”?

Man, Lou doesn’t hesitate to tell you how he feels.

He is correct though...to say only radio...leaves people thinking that this is the only area to be “fixed”. If you toss the Fairness Doctrine onto the fire...most of us will readily identify NBC, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, CNN, the AP, and dozens of other networks for issues. There will be 40,000 complaints per day, and we will have congressional meetings around the clock to explain why this network was hit but this one wasn’t.

I think the best fairness doctrine...is this little switch on your radio...you click it on, if you like the show, and you click it off, if you don’t. Thats mostly fair, and 100 percent balanced.


4 posted on 02/14/2009 11:25:01 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Righting
Once they install the “fairness” doctrine I'm going to make a recommendation to radio stations. All they need to do is get a ridiculous, idiotic liberal, you know, a typical liberal, to take a show. They will require them to take a significant number of phone calls and everyone can laugh at them. It may not be very educational, but liberals have very few ideas anyway...and it will be hilarious.
5 posted on 02/14/2009 11:25:48 PM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: pepsionice
I think the best fairness doctrine...is this little switch on your radio...you click it on, if you like the show, and you click it off, if you don’t. Thats mostly fair, and 100 percent balanced.

Agreed!

6 posted on 02/14/2009 11:25:50 PM PST by Righting
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To: Righting

That’s the same mentality that got us in this mess. GWB is less evil than Gore or Kerry. McCain is less evil than Obama. This mentality creates the perfect breeding ground for RINOs.


7 posted on 02/14/2009 11:26:34 PM PST by Blue Highway
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To: highlander_UW
They have already tried with their failing “air america” sloppy thing.
8 posted on 02/14/2009 11:26:41 PM PST by Righting
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To: Blue Highway
I liked that line of his
It's interesting he's not calling for fairness or a Fairness Doctrine for "The New York Times," "The Washington Post", the "L.A. Times," or ABC News, CBS News, NBC News. Isn't that odd that he would only be interested in so-called fairness for radio?.
9 posted on 02/14/2009 11:27:41 PM PST by Righting
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To: Blue Highway

Dobbs, another useless RINO. Hey Mr. RINO, the Democratic Party is way over that way (looks west to see San Fransisco)
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You make no sense. Dobbs is pointing out the “Unfairness” of the Unfairness Doctrine.


10 posted on 02/14/2009 11:32:31 PM PST by unkus
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To: unkus
Dobbs is pointing out the “Unfairness” of the Unfairness Doctrine.

Exactly why I (posted) quoted him here on FR.

11 posted on 02/14/2009 11:34:23 PM PST by Righting
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To: Blue Highway

Dobbs was blasting Clinton, not agreeing with him. I’m unsure what his party affiliation is.


12 posted on 02/14/2009 11:35:46 PM PST by CowboyJay (Stop picking on Porkulus. He's not fat, he's just big-boned.)
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To: Righting
I suspect that it's not an (impeached and disbarred) Bill Clinton thing.

Likely it's an Obama/Ayers objective, and (impeached and disbarred) Bill Clinton agrees with the premise, so he's willing to carry out the assignment.

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13 posted on 02/14/2009 11:38:57 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Blue Highway
President Bill Clinton tried to blame “hate radio” for the Oklahoma City bombing.

Dobbs’ opposition to illegal immigration and open borders has put him on the list of censorship.

Potok made the claim on “60 Minutes” that Dobbs was a fear monger and that “The impression you get [from watching his CNN program,] pretty strongly I think, day after day, is that sort of all 11 million illegal aliens are bringing leprosy, they’re bringing crime, they’re bringing all these terrible things to the United States.”

Potok said that Dobbs’ comments gives people “the go-ahead to say that, you know, ‘These are a group of rapists and disease-carrying people who are coming to, you know, essentially destroy the culture of this country.’”

Stahl quibbled with Dobbs about a claim that immigrants were responsible for bringing leprosy into the U.S., but the issue wasn’t really whether he got a fact right or wrong or even whether he was an “advocacy journalist.” The clear implication was that Dobbs was somehow encouraging hatred or violence against illegal aliens and was therefore guilty of “hate speech.” Potok served no other purpose than to imply that Dobbs was a Don Imus-type character, not worthy of being given air-time.

Dobbs:Also ahead illegal aliens suing an Arizona rancher who caught them on his property and Democrats killing one of the most effective programs to fight illegal immigration, we're going to be right back.

Dobbs is not giving up on the subject of Illegal Immigration.

14 posted on 02/14/2009 11:55:36 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Blue Highway

Read before commenting

DOBBS:
Now, the former president calling for the Fairness Doctrine would only imply, of course, to broadcasters.

It’s interesting he’s not calling for fairness or a Fairness Doctrine for “The New York Times,” “The Washington Post”, the “L.A. Times,” or ABC News, CBS News, NBC News. Isn’t that odd that he would only be interested in so-called fairness for radio?

Obviously as a radio talk show host, as an American citizen, as a journalist, you know I think the former president is out of his cotton picking mind and needs to go away on this issue and the sooner the better.

This idea that the government would decide what is balanced broadcast and fair broadcasting is purely a censorship doctrine.

There is no other way to look at it. Purely a censorship document and hopefully we won’t get to a point that we’ll have a central command economy and nation, anytime soon.


15 posted on 02/15/2009 12:00:21 AM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: Righting
This idea that the government would decide what is balanced broadcast and fair broadcasting is purely a censorship doctrine.

Censorship Doctrine, that is what is would be.

16 posted on 02/15/2009 12:21:54 AM PST by rawhide
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To: highlander_UW

If they attempt to do this, it should also apply to television so that the major MSM have to give equal time to alternate views.


17 posted on 02/15/2009 12:28:36 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: Blue Highway
Um, Dobbs isn't an elected official; he is a member of the media. In my book, any person in the media that is against the “fairness doctrine” is A-OK.

Not sure what RINOs have to do with this discussion?

18 posted on 02/15/2009 1:15:29 AM PST by RepublicanChick
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To: Blue Highway

Trolling?


19 posted on 02/15/2009 2:00:48 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Righting

The “Censorship” Doctrine needs to become a household name, similar to the “Porkulous” Bill. Every time the so-called “Fairness” Doctrine is discussed, it should be countered with this or something similar.


20 posted on 02/15/2009 2:14:17 AM PST by maxter (Give today a chance. Enjoy.)
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To: SoCalPol

Antonin Scalia used the same kind of argument against the restrictions of McCain-Feingold. You could restrict TV ads but every major newspaper is perfectly free to run as many editorials and articles as they wish against a given candidate, up to, and including, the day of the election.


21 posted on 02/15/2009 2:17:58 AM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Righting
More and more I think that the "Fairness Doctrine" will come to fruition in the form of "Local Content / Community Control". Using the shrinking / demise of the dead-tree media, newspapers and magazines, as an excuse and call for action, the new administration will use its appointees to the FCC require broadcast radio to adhere to orders for "balanced content" by local boards of activists.

Even if these boards start out as being dominated by conservatives (doubtful), their operating instructions would be to require a percentage of local presentation. If you make this on an hourly basis, you kill national presenters like Rush & others. Their advertising dollar value gets cut with their time on the air and the economics goes away. The Liberals would rather kill an entire industry than to tolerate informed dissent from the Right.

22 posted on 02/15/2009 3:37:51 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: Blue Highway
Dobbs, another useless RINO

Dobbs is not a Republican, he's an Independent, therefore he can not be a RINO.

23 posted on 02/15/2009 4:12:37 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: Blue Highway

You are equivocating a man who liberated over 50 million people, saved millions of lives in Africa, Dignified the individual life, and brought integrity and honor back to our white house with democrat scum? No wonder this country is so f^^^^ed up. God Bless President Bush.


24 posted on 02/15/2009 4:30:26 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Righting

Clinton mentioned all that money in talk radio....Rush let it be known that the money was earned from his audience through sponsors and listening power. No government or private money. No $450,000 Dubai speeches, trashing America. Rush worked his way from the very bottom to where he is now.


25 posted on 02/15/2009 4:34:25 AM PST by ONEBYEONE
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To: SES1066

The obvious tact would be to take this thru to the Supremes asking that these boards be extended to all media including TV and cable news...watch the howling begin then!


26 posted on 02/15/2009 5:17:59 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Blue Highway

“Dobbs, another useless RINO. Hey Mr. RINO, the Democratic Party is way over that way (looks west to see San Fransisco)”

Did you spend too much time in the sun?
Your post made zero sense.


27 posted on 02/15/2009 5:27:08 AM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: CowboyJay

Dobbs considers himself an “Independent Populist”...but definitely with more conservative leanings, and in the traditional sense.

Dobbs is definitely strong on Border Security, against Illegal Alien Amnesty, against rampant Globalism/Free Trade...more of an economic nationalist

Dobbs, however, did not support the war in Iraqi (one of the few things there is disagreement).

Dobbs for many years was CNNs main business correspondent and host (Moneyline) and was quite supportive of big business until a few years ago....when he started discovering many Americans were losing jobs to non-Americans via bad trade deals.

Probably his biggest opponent is Michael Medved, the faux-conservative Hollywood liberal movie critic....and John Stossel, the “libertarian”


28 posted on 02/15/2009 6:32:49 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: CowboyJay

I’m pretty sure he is a Republican, but like I said he is a RINO. Typical country club Republican. McCain was strong on a few issues like our military, but his awful stance on amnesty for illegals far outweighs the good. Same thing with Dobbs. Watch him and you clearly see he is a RINO behind that Republican facade.


29 posted on 02/15/2009 7:11:36 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: AlexW

Have you ever seen his show? The guy is worthless. Might as well start calling Wolf Blitzer a conservative then if you habe no problem with Dobbs.


30 posted on 02/15/2009 7:16:36 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

Dobbs has been sounding the alarm bell on illegal immigration and assymetric trade for a long time. I would not assume he’s a pubbie. Strikes me as more of an independent or maybe even blue-dog dem. That being said, he’s probably more ‘conservative’ than 1/2 of the Republican caucus.


31 posted on 02/15/2009 7:17:47 AM PST by CowboyJay (One if by land)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
Dobbs, however, did not support the war in Iraqi (one of the few things there is disagreement).

And yet there are those on here that are OK with that about him. My views are if the guy is that wrong about an issue he should never be considered for office. Sure, Dobbs isn't an official for public office, but there are those that would elect him even though he is far from a true conservative.

Probably his biggest opponent is Michael Medved, the faux-conservative Hollywood liberal movie critic....and John Stossel, the “libertarian” See this is the reason why I posted in this thread is to make a point. People on here would consider Medved to be a conservative, yet he strongly supported McCain, who obviously was not a conservative. And John Stossel, can you get more liberal than him?

32 posted on 02/15/2009 7:23:02 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: CowboyJay
Dobbs has been sounding the alarm bell on illegal immigration and assymetric trade for a long time. I would not assume he’s a pubbie. Strikes me as more of an independent or maybe even blue-dog dem. That being said, he’s probably more ‘conservative’ than 1/2 of the Republican caucus.

Yeah it's great he is strong on illegal immigration. That's about it though. If he is more conservative than 1/2 out Republican caucus, then God help us, and the reason this is such am important factor and I hope people wake up and pull their head out of the sand so in 2010 the conservative candidates get selected for election.

33 posted on 02/15/2009 7:25:39 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Always Independent
If they attempt to do this, it should also apply to television so that the major MSM have to give equal time to alternate views.

And the most important place they need fairness is the classrooms. But the dems are going to limit the bill to the radio and their argument is the "airwaves" belong to all Americans and therefore should reflect the views of all Americans, which, to a liberal means their perverted views. So their concern really isn't about fairness, it's about control of opposing views, which is why I say this is an example of "liberal" totalitarianism.

34 posted on 02/15/2009 8:11:29 AM PST by highlander_UW (The only difference between the MSM and the DNC is the MSM sells ad space in their propaganda)
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To: Righting

Stop using leftist words. It is THE CENSORSHIP DOCTRINE.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2172649/posts

it is important not to let leftists frame the argument. ask the mod to put “censorship doctrine” in parentheses next to the title.

THANK YOU!


35 posted on 02/15/2009 4:43:37 PM PST by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Chickensoup

Of course I agree with you, but for accuracy (and ethics in posting sources) I had to quote L. Dobbs’ words.


36 posted on 02/17/2009 10:32:31 PM PST by Righting
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