Posted on 02/15/2009 11:55:49 AM PST by pabianice
Fox News is on air now giving details of Porkulus. According to Fox, the only part of the economy to be cut by Porkulus is our military -- 10% "to start," in the words of Barney Frank, for maintenance, training, and procurement. Other details include the Veterans Administration sharply cutting medical treatment for vets, and for military retirees, patient premiums and co-pays for TRICARE are being raised 100-400%, PLUS medical care for veterans and retirees will be the first to be rationed by the White House Office of Healthcare Coordination.
FEEL the love, tolerance, and bipartisanship...
Do you have links or the pages of the pdf that address this?
I don’t mind paying for the military or the care for our vets..
I believe it. I’ve read similar statements from other sources over the past few days on this matter.
NO, I don’t have any links. I read this stuff, and go on to the next news item and read that stuff.
Same here. Unfortunately, we’re not president.
All you have to do to see how government health care “works” just look at the VA system. Just wait, under the Obama health care plan, the VA system will look wonderful in comparison.
Wasn’t it the left that was screaming bloody murder about the Bush Administration not taking proper care of our vets?
How is reducing the amount of money the military spends a stimulus?
I think this move is an attack against current service members. By cutting spending, troops have less. By cutting future benefits it removes one reason for staying.
If you suffer combat related injuries, soldiers have the Veterans Administration to count on. By cutting care now, this will directly impact the wounded warriors who have protected us from terrorists.
Zero sucks.
Obama sees no need for the military once we have been subjugated to the United Nations.
Over at Dumpsterunderground, they’re cheering cuts for our veterans. What loathsome hatemongers.
Do you know which pages address this? I couldn’t find it. Thanks.
http://www.npc.navy.mil/NR/exeres/EC04E763-32A1-488A-BE9E-BEA4985003CD.htm
Just a start folks. They are going to gut the military much worse than Clinton!!!
One could surmise that the 10% cut in military costs may coincide with the percent of our patriotic Americans that will chose to leave the military rather than serve the new Socialist Messiah. Send the witch Pelosi, dirty Reid, and the rest of the DC gutter scum to fight in Iraq and Afganistan and next Iran. Let them put actions where their two-sided mouths are.
PING
"God and the soldier, we adore,
In time of danger, not before!
The danger past and all things righted,
God is forgotten, and the soldier slighted!"
Written by a Marlborough Vetertan, over 400 years ago!
Many of you are missing the point.
This is to FORCE many more people on to gubment healthcare.
The moire you depend on gubment, the more you HAVE to vote Democrat to keep those EVIL REPUBLICANS from taking things away from you.
FACISM has arrived, folks..
And this is EXACTLY how the Nazi’s took control of Germany.
Retiree Benefits Cut Ping!
Lets call home the troops and together we will clean out Washington.
I am not surprised.
TOMMY
by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)
I went into a public-’ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-’alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul?”
But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.
We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.
You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees!
bump and place keep
It’ll be interesting to see which way the military guns point when the inevitable riots occur.
Goodness, what a piece of %^&*. This man will be the death of America. We need to have him removed, PRONTO, if this nation has any hope of survival.
A quick search at readthestimulus.org shows no mention of TRICARE in the bill, nor any reduced VA medical benefits. Not sure where this might be hidden, but I’m sure someone will find it if it’s in there.
Socialists detest and despise the military and usually do their best to undermine it.
The United States Military will suffer under the Socialist actions of Obama and Pelosi and Frank.
A key lawmaker has reintroduced legislation that would freeze Tricare fees for military retirees, a preemptive strike in case the Defense Department tries again to raise deductibles, copayments and enrollment fees in an effort to hold down its health care costs.
The Military Retirees’ Healthcare Protection Act, introduced Tuesday, is important because of its chief sponsor — Rep. Chet Edwards, D-Texas — and because of the timing.
Edwards, an ally of President Barack Obama who had been discussed as a possible vice presidential running mate, is chairman of the House appropriations subcommittee responsible for military quality of life programs and veterans health care. Overcoming Edwards’ opposition would be difficult.
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http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/02/military_tricare_freezefees_020409w/
Write your congress critters!!
Congressional Budget Office’s Budget Options for Healthcare, December 2008. http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf pages 187-189 have the Tricare and Tricare for life increases.
Other details include the Veterans Administration sharply cutting medical treatment for vets, and for military retirees, patient premiums and co-pays for TRICARE are being raised 100-400%, PLUS medical care for veterans and retirees will be the first to be rationed by the White House Office of Healthcare Coordination.
The initial assault with S-CHIP was aimed at ripping private insurance away from "children". The "porkulus" rips it away from military vets, retirees and survivors. Conyers takes the final swipe at the rest of us.
Crap on the military and expect loyalty afterward. Zero must be smoking weed...again.
Why would that surprise anyone. Democrats could care less about the men and women that keep this country safe.
Hey, weren’t we assured by O during the presidential debates last year that he wouldn’t be cutting veterans’ benefits?
thanks LucyT.
HR-667 does not contain any language about catastrophic care, and that is something the individual states can establish on their own. Florida has been considering this plan for awhile. Catastrophic care is the most expensive, so having a state-run PUBLIC insurance pool getd around the provisions of the bill and Porkulus.
Everything they have falsely accused Bush/Cheney of doing the Democrats are now happily doing.
Good question.
Ditto. I cannot find any references, and if there aren’t any, we are going to be a bit angry.
You can’t come out and say, “Fox News reports..” without providing any links to Fox News. That’s not how it works.
“You can’t come out and say, “Fox News reports..” without providing any links to Fox News. That’s not how it works.”
Uhm, Uh, Uh, Uh.....I didn’t.
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And how do you propose we do that? Impeach him with a Pelosi Congress and try him with a Reid Senate?
Fat chance.
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