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Kate Winslet's Oscar chances hit by The Reader Nazi accusation
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | February 15, 2009 | Tim Shipman

Posted on 02/15/2009 12:40:40 PM PST by EveningStar

Kate Winslet's chances of Oscar glory are being hit by an orchestrated campaign to dismiss her film The Reader as an apologia for Nazi Germany.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: academyawards; film; holocaust; katewinslet; nazigermany; oscars; thereader

1 posted on 02/15/2009 12:40:41 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: Borges; dighton

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2 posted on 02/15/2009 12:41:26 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: DollyCali

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3 posted on 02/15/2009 12:42:01 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

That movie sucked. Shoulda called it The Breader.


4 posted on 02/15/2009 12:43:19 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: EveningStar
It's Charlie Brown kicking and Lucy place-holding once again. There are all sorts of Oscar stories to entice the audience to please (please!) watch the show.

And the winner of Best Picture . . . MILK!

Take it to the bank.

5 posted on 02/15/2009 12:46:37 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Puppage
"That movie sucked. Shoulda called it The Breader.

Or, The Pedophile. If the roles were reversed, every woman's group in the world would be calling for the banning of the movie. The first hour of the movie is nothing but soft-core pedophilia pornography.

My wife and I went to see knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it's an Oscar contender. We were both shocked - and we are by no means prudes. It's very, very racy.

6 posted on 02/15/2009 12:48:21 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Puppage
No such thing as negative publicity, I guess.

Especially when you just made a terrible film, and haven't done much since Titannic.

Maybe she just wants to be a little bit “controversial.”

7 posted on 02/15/2009 12:48:39 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: EveningStar
Kate Winslet's Oscar chances hit by The Reader Nazi accusation
Film critics had previously suggested that the film was an example of "Nazi porn" for its sympathetic treatment of Ms Winslet's character, an illiterate war criminal who locks 300 Jewish women in a burning church, becomes an Auschwitz guard and then seeks redemption by learning to read while on trial after the war.

Whether there is a deity that dispenses redemption in an afterlife, I don't know (and don't find likely), but it is quite certain that there are some things that people do that places them beyond redemption in this life. Kill 300 Jewish women and find redemption in learning to read? Complete and utter rubbish.

8 posted on 02/15/2009 12:51:33 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Puppage

It’s a secular attempt to equate literacy with morality.

I haven’t seen it or read whatever book it was based on. However, I happened to read a truly awful but very popular (among the critics) book called the Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society. It was a stupid book that implied that learning to like “great literature” (thanks to a local leftist bluestocking) converted Guernsey farmers into members of the Resistance in WWII.

Of course, nothing of the sort took place. Either you had moral standards at the beginning - and suffered the penalties - or you didn’t have them and just went along with Hitler, regardless of whether you just knew how to read or were among the most cultivated people in Germany, which described many of Hitler’s followers.

Our “intellectuals” are out there right now, fawning over our own Hitler, President Bambi, and years hence people will be asking what made them do this. But literacy has nothing to do with morality.


9 posted on 02/15/2009 12:52:43 PM PST by livius
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To: EveningStar

Loved the novel. Have no intention of seeing the movie. The novel was NOT ‘racy’ at all. I loved the twist ending. Didn’t even see it coming.

Now THAT, IMHO is a good tale told.

“The Reader (Der Vorleser) is an award-winning novel by German law professor and judge Bernhard Schlink. It was published in Germany in 1995 and in the United States (translated into English by Carol Brown Janeway) in 1997. It deals with the difficulties of subsequent generations to comprehend the Holocaust; specifically, whether a sense of its origins and magnitude can be adequately conveyed solely through written and oral media. This question is increasingly at the center of Holocaust literature in the late 20th and early 21st century, as the victims and witnesses of the Holocaust die and its living memory begins to fade.

Schlink’s book was well received in his native country, and also in the United States, winning several awards. The novel was a departure from Schlink’s usual detective novels. It became the first German novel to top the New York Times bestseller list, and US television presenter Oprah Winfrey made it a selection of her book club. It has been translated into 37 languages and been included in the curricula of college-level courses in Holocaust literature.”

P.S. P*ss on Oprah. Many people ‘found’ this book before she did. *Rolleyes*


10 posted on 02/15/2009 12:54:25 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Big_Monkey
We were both shocked ...

Were you really? This is Hollywood we're talking about.

11 posted on 02/15/2009 1:08:06 PM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Puppage
"Shoulda called it The Breader."

What does that even MEAN? Is the breader the person who puts the secret-recipe herbs and spices on the chicken before its fried?

12 posted on 02/15/2009 1:09:40 PM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: pnh102

I know. I don’t know why we keep wasting our money on movies. I feel like the kid who keeps putting his wet finger in the outlet.


13 posted on 02/15/2009 1:10:10 PM PST by Big_Monkey
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To: Big_Monkey

It’s the same double standard that allows for all those “Guilty/Not Guilty” threads here about female teachers having sex with male underage pupils.


14 posted on 02/15/2009 1:11:26 PM PST by Borges
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To: Big_Monkey
Wet Finger? Outlet?

Is that some kind of sexual reference?
15 posted on 02/15/2009 1:13:19 PM PST by Krankor (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me.)
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To: pnh102

Even though it was co-financed by the Weinstien Co. it was more of a European film in tone and content. It’s also pretty bad.


16 posted on 02/15/2009 1:17:33 PM PST by Borges
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To: snarks_when_bored
Maybe redemption isn't the right word for what the book is about. There is still something to write about even if Winslet's character is beyond redemption, and that's more what the book is about than whether she is in some way redeemed or not.

Living with people who may have done or supported unforgiveable things certainly describes the situation of a lot of Germans of Schlink's generation were with respect to their parents and relatives.

I can't say whether the novel was was bad or good or laudable or contemptible, but it did work purely as a story.

17 posted on 02/15/2009 1:19:36 PM PST by x
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To: livius

You are spot on, 100 percent. A former lib friend of mine (an educated person - a veterinarian) gave it to me because her book discussion was reading it. After I finished she asked what I thought.

I said it was about the banality of evil. That the characters were too lazy, to full of ennui to make a choice to turn from evil.

She gave me a cow-new fence look and said “I thought it was about what happens when people don’t read”.

AS IF NAZI GERMANY WAS FULL OF ILLITERATES!!!

My respect for her nosedived at that minute.


18 posted on 02/15/2009 1:26:13 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: EveningStar

Bet Angelina Jolie is behind this. :)


19 posted on 02/15/2009 1:27:40 PM PST by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: sgtyork
The World Wars and especially WW2 did a lot to erode the high regard with which European high culture and especially German high culture was held. It was previously thought by many that being cultured was a humanizing effect but when they liberated the camps most of the guards spent their free time filling in their Goethe.

Since then whenever there is an evil genius in a movie who wants to conquer the world he's usually speaking with a vague middle European accent and listening to Classical music.
20 posted on 02/15/2009 1:33:40 PM PST by Borges
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To: Wiseghy
She sure has been idle since then:

Revolutionary Road (2009)

Holiday, The (2006)

Flushed Away (2006)

Little Children (2006)

All the King's Men (2006)

Romance & Cigarettes (2006)

Deep Sea 3D (2006)

Finding Neverland (2004)

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)

The Life Of David Gale (2003)

Iris (2002)

Enigma (2001)

Quills (2001)

Holy Smoke (2000)

Hideous Kinky (1999)

21 posted on 02/15/2009 1:34:06 PM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed

She’s a terrific performer who never does the expected. ‘Little Children’ is excellent for anyone who hasn’t seen it.


22 posted on 02/15/2009 1:35:08 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
I just like it when she takes her shirt off.

I do agree. She will do movies that don't have car chases and laser fire fights.

23 posted on 02/15/2009 1:38:57 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“And the winner of Best Picture . . . MILK! Take it to the bank.”

Yup, Gay is the in thing amongst the Hollywood establishment. The will reward the makers of this “film” with an Oscar. They will also reward Sean Penn with a best actor Oscar in part for his “courage” to take on such a roll and in part to punish Mickey Rourke for his recent kind words about George W Bush.


24 posted on 02/15/2009 1:45:44 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71 (Pray for America)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

“And the winner of Best Picture . . . MILK!

Take it to the bank.”

Sean Penn as a gay man? It can’t lose.


25 posted on 02/15/2009 1:58:54 PM PST by yazoo
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To: EveningStar

the only way you can really hurt your Oscar chances is by coming out of the “conservative closet”. If she had posters of Hitler in her bedroom it wouldn’t matter to Hollywood-so long as she’s not a dreaded conservative.


26 posted on 02/15/2009 2:11:29 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

No doubt MILK will win. And there is no doubt I will not be watching.


27 posted on 02/15/2009 2:14:35 PM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Kill 300 Jewish women and find redemption in learning to read? Complete and utter rubbish.

Hey, man. Be cool. After all:


28 posted on 02/15/2009 2:16:17 PM PST by Rastus
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To: nufsed
Kate Winslet Pictures, Images and Photos PFFFTTTT!..NOT GUILTY!
29 posted on 02/15/2009 2:20:32 PM PST by redstateconfidential (" An American Idol President")
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To: sgtyork
She gave me a cow-new fence look and said “I thought it was about what happens when people don’t read”.

LOL! I bought the book in an airport on my Kindle because my mother (a raving liberal) and her book group thought it was wonderful. I couldn't even finish the thing, it was so preposterous.

30 posted on 02/15/2009 2:43:02 PM PST by livius
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To: nufsed

What a slacker.


31 posted on 02/15/2009 3:26:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

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32 posted on 02/15/2009 3:29:18 PM PST by nufsed
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To: nufsed

Y’know, for awhile, I thought Kate had it written into her contract that she HAD to do a nude scene in every film she was in.


33 posted on 02/15/2009 3:44:47 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

A practice which should be encouraged.


34 posted on 02/15/2009 3:58:39 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Big_Monkey

Or, The Pedophile. If the roles were reversed, every woman’s group in the world would be calling for the banning of the movie. The first hour of the movie is nothing but soft-core pedophilia pornography.

My wife and I went to see knowing absolutely nothing about it other than it’s an Oscar contender. We were both shocked - and we are by no means prudes. It’s very, very racy.

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I thought THE READER was a fine movie...

OK, the movie could be called “racy”...That’s because you see Winslet character and her “lover” nude. There are other movies which are more graphic.

After watching THE READER, one would not get the idea that
an affair between a teenager boy and an older woman leads to a happy ending. The boy eventually becomes a lawyer...But, he has problems in his personal life.

Winslet really did a good job.


35 posted on 02/20/2009 11:47:02 PM PST by L.A.Justice
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