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Nev. plans more lion hunts in effort to save deer
Associated Press ^ | Feb. 15, 2009 | MARTIN GRIFFITH

Posted on 02/15/2009 10:49:14 PM PST by george76

The Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners told agency staff last week to employ the help of sport hunters and contract employees from the U.S. Agriculture Department's Wildlife Services for the state wildlife department's new "program of intensive, sustained predator reduction."

Ken Mayer, director of the Nevada Department of Wildlife, said his agency would use science to figure out the number of lions to be killed in areas where the predators have been found to adversely affect deer numbers.

The state's deer population fell from 240,000 in 1988 to 108,000 in 2008, while its current lion population ranges from 1,500 to 2,400,

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; dof; hsus; hunters; peta; wildlife

1 posted on 02/15/2009 10:49:14 PM PST by george76
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To: girlangler; jazusamo; SunkenCiv; NVDave; rellimpank

PETA is not happy.


2 posted on 02/15/2009 10:51:20 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

And in Wisconsin we can’t get enough hunters to thin the deer herd.


3 posted on 02/15/2009 10:59:54 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: LukeL

Did these guys get clearance from Ashley Judd for this wildlife management program?

Has everyone heard how Ashley Judd blasted Sarah Palin about Alaska’a wildlife management? Don’t you just love it how Hollywood idiots know more about any subject than those actually responsible for managing any given program, at least if Republicans are in charge of said programs???????


4 posted on 02/15/2009 11:13:23 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Laura Linney could not look too long at the First Family during the inauguration, because it was “like staring into the sun.”


5 posted on 02/15/2009 11:16:18 PM PST by karnage
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To: george76
108,000 divided by 2,400 = 45

These are some busy cats.

365 divided by 45 = 8.1111....

So each cat is killing a deer every 8 days.

6 posted on 02/15/2009 11:21:44 PM PST by BBell
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To: george76
Why is a cat hunt in Nevada news in Charlotte N.C.? Too many PETA folks in Charlotte with time on their hands?
7 posted on 02/15/2009 11:25:19 PM PST by BBell
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To: LukeL

how much for out of state hunters?......my hubby would love to hunt all year thru if he could...


8 posted on 02/15/2009 11:44:59 PM PST by cherry
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To: LukeL

Our town of ~4,000 had a 10:1 ratio of people to deer in side city limits. Had several confirmed lions drawn to the easy pickings, too; two of them were shot in town.

This fall/winter, a plan was finally approved, and 100 were deer culled for the local food banks.

Took just over 2 weeks for the professionals shooting in non-inhabited parts of town to take them out.

Breeding age does were the preferred target population.

Things were so good for them that most were having twins the last few years, with a lot of triplets even.

Also passed a “no feeding” ordinance. That doesn’t apply to us on the ranch in the county; they still get to steal all the hay, grazing, and fruit they can get away with...but some pay with their lives.

If I could charge the king grazing fees for his deer, the same as the king charges me to shoot the king’s deer, life would be sweet. ;-’)


9 posted on 02/16/2009 12:08:57 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: BBell

From direct observation on my part in Nevada, your average is OK in the winter, and far too long a period in the summer.

Cats won’t eat rancid meat. They’ll kill fresh, and leave the spoiled remains to coyotes and scavengers.


10 posted on 02/16/2009 1:27:46 AM PST by NVDave
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To: ApplegateRanch

What you say about twinning and tripling is true only of whitetails. Mulies won’t twin/triple the way whitetails will.

Dr. Valarius Geist (now retired) is an expert on deer/elk/moose populations in N. America. Years ago at a Mule Deer Foundation get-together in Nevada, he laid out what the problems were for mulies, and how/why mulies are not like whitetails.

Whitetails are almost perfectly made for the evolving land use patterns in the US, whereas the mule deer are being hit hard by development of riperian areas like the Truckee Meadows in NV, or the Front Range of the Rockies, etc.


11 posted on 02/16/2009 1:31:05 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave
I have Read Dr. Geist's book Mule Deer Country and it is excellent.

That said, the Mule deer that live here had 60% twins for the past four seasons.

12 posted on 02/16/2009 2:31:22 AM PST by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: Obamageddon

Where is ‘here’? I never saw twinning rates like that in central NV...


13 posted on 02/16/2009 2:49:22 AM PST by NVDave
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To: NVDave

South central Montana


14 posted on 02/16/2009 3:06:42 AM PST by Obamageddon (Birth certificate and college transcripts will be required for Federal employment, Mr. Soetero)
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To: george76; ApplegateRanch
--amused--this only made it to the Las Vegas R-J this morning, Charlotte is really up on the news-

--it will be fun to watch as the same flak will fly as has in South Dakota--

15 posted on 02/16/2009 5:31:20 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Ashley Judd wants to trade Nevada's mountain lions to Idaho, Montana and Wyoming for their wolves.

That will cure all the problems.

16 posted on 02/16/2009 5:38:09 AM PST by TYVets
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To: george76
"This is a nonscientific effort to kill an animal just because they don't like it," he said. "It's an irrational dislike of an animal that has every right to live here."

Pure Tripe! This Don Molde that spouted off with this and the other so called expert are typical of the spokespersons for HSUS, DOF, PETA and other AR activists in that they play to emotions of people and can't back up their statements with facts.

17 posted on 02/16/2009 7:39:37 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: TYVets; george76
LOL!

ID State Sen. Gary Schroeder annouced the ID Senate has passed a bill offering other states wolves from ID because of their over population. It's a tongue in cheek thing but real never the less, doubt they'll get many takers.

Gary Schroeder: Offering some of Idaho's wolves to other states makes sense

18 posted on 02/16/2009 7:47:29 AM PST by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; george76; ApplegateRanch
--several years ago, in response to wolf-grizzly, etc., PETA fantasy, someone in NYC proposed a few bears for Central Park--I like that idea.

--judging by what I have read, 2-3 grizzlys, several mountain lions and a pack or two of wolves would make the place safe-maybe in daylight- for well-armed visitors--

19 posted on 02/16/2009 8:21:58 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: NVDave

Thanks. Yes, these are mainly whiteys; maybe O’Bambi will toss them under the bus & do us all a favor.

OTOH, Mulies look enough like donkeys to city folk, that he may think they vote Dem, and will help them...NV is Dirty Harry’s state, after all.


Seriously, we live in ‘shared range’, and have both overlapping. I live about 800’ higher than town, and in the limestone foothills, and have mainly mulies on the property; in town, its mainly whitetails.

OTOH, when we lived in the Rogue Valley in Oregon, it was Western blacktail, which I understand to be a sub-race/sub-species of mulie, and they had high twin rates in ‘good years’.


20 posted on 02/16/2009 12:20:52 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: rellimpank

Our lion season ended this weekend, when the 15th female was killed. Total kill was 25.

Season was limited to 35 lions killed, or 15 females killed, which ever came first; or the end of march if kill limits didn’t end it sooner.


21 posted on 02/16/2009 12:26:52 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: george76

Oh, my word!!! Someone call Ashley Judd!


22 posted on 02/16/2009 12:31:30 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: ApplegateRanch

-—I’ve been trying to see one in the Deadwood area several summers—the damn deer keep raiding the bird feeders but so far no lion—


23 posted on 02/16/2009 12:36:53 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: AuntB

24 posted on 02/16/2009 12:43:26 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

lol!


25 posted on 02/16/2009 12:50:23 PM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: rellimpank
First time I saw it, I couldn't believe it. Deer squatting on its haunches like a prairie dog. Stretched its neck & turned its head sideways, then used its tongue to scrape all the seed out of the narrow slot of the bird feeder.

As for Deadwood, I understand that to see a lion, you have to put a hot tub on your deck.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22164071/

26 posted on 02/16/2009 1:18:47 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

—yep—and we know the lady , too—


27 posted on 02/16/2009 1:32:21 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: BBell
"108,000 divided by 2,400 = 45...So each cat is killing a deer every 8 days."

That's assuming that 100% of deer losses were the result of cat attacks. You need to factor in other predators (human and otherwise), disease, starvation, old age and highway deaths.

28 posted on 02/16/2009 1:36:25 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I know. I just through out some figures with out thinking it through. I think I can maybe get a job with the government, particularly in the Obama administration.
29 posted on 02/16/2009 2:24:26 PM PST by BBell
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To: BBell
"I think I can maybe get a job with the government, particularly in the Obama administration."

In spite of my previous caveat, your estimates were still too accurate to merit a post in the Obama regime. I'm guessing your taxes are probably up to date, too so you're just going to have to try harder ;-)

30 posted on 02/16/2009 2:26:29 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rellimpank; potlatch

31 posted on 02/17/2009 7:33:28 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Lol, and hundreds, maybe thousands attended!! No lions in sight though.


32 posted on 02/17/2009 3:18:55 PM PST by potlatch
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To: LukeL
And in Wisconsin we can’t get enough hunters to thin the deer herd.

Can you still hunt cats?

33 posted on 02/17/2009 3:32:33 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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