Skip to comments.THE DEADLY TOLL OF VACCINE HYSTERIA
Posted on 02/16/2009 8:35:40 AM PST by rellimpank
THE idea that a preservative once used in vaccines is to blame for rising autism rates has just been authoritatively debunked - again. Indeed, some of the key early "evidence" now stands exposed as fake.
Sadly, none of this will kill this myth - because it was never based on good science.
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The luddites will attack us, however, calling us insensitive, various other names, and seeking to blame all their problems on us.
The OTHER problem not mentioned is that these vaccines are STRONGER and MORE are given to kids BEFORE their IMMUNE SYSTEMS are MATURE. So, you roll the dice and hope for the best. Some are lucky and some are not.
HOW MANY vaccines did you GET in childhood....it just seems today that there are SOOOOO Many.....I’m not one who opposes them....at least not ALL of them....but, HPV? and some of the others? Yes.
study says autism linked to rainfall
Even with the death of children on their bloody hands, the anti-vaccination fanatics remain totally delusional, totally without a clue.
Many of these poor souls have autistic family members, and are heart-breakingly manipulated by evil charlatans like Andrew Wakefield and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
In recent years autism has been blamed on everything from discarded iPod batteries to mercury from Chinese power stations, from antenatal ultrasound scans to post-natal cord clamping, from diet to vaccines,” Fitzpatrick said in a statement.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has launched a long-term study to find the causes of autism and other childhood conditions.
Autism has existed from the beginning of humanity, it is most likely the far end of a continuum with most normal people in the middle, the artsy fartsy flake at one end, and the rigid autistic at the other end.
—I got my first smallpox immunization when I was six weeks old (my dad was diagnosed with it-one of several in SW Wisconsin at the time) and still had to get them about every five years or so—they did swell up and gave us rural kids something to show each other, especially if you picked the scab off—
>>This is a FAR CRY from the FEW that were required in earlier days. It’s insane what is REQUIRED today. <<
I agree totally with you.
I am not anti-vaccine. I’m conservative about loading my kids up with chemicals.
We don’t do flu shots either. Every time I’ve gotten one, I’ve ended up sick as a dog.
Everyone’s probably heard about this - the person who won a lawsuit regarding vaccinations and autism - links to some prexisting condition - but still - how do we know which children have the conditions?
“The biggest single reason I have seen for the increase in autism, is that the government offered extra money for autistic children”
WE HAVE A WINNER.
I’ve had flu shots for 35 years. Never had the flu. Never had a reaction. But I guess that’s just me and everybody I know.
We dont do flu shots either. Every time Ive gotten one, Ive ended up sick as a dog.
There is no way we'd load up on flu shots!
Nearly 99% of the time it is the WRONG STRAIN and they don't exempt you from the flu. The elderly should definitely NOT get those shots.
The GERMS are STRONGER than what they used to use in the “old days” and now there are TOO MANY STRONG GERMS being injected into little kids with immature immune systems. It's a game of Russian Roulette.
It's too bad this article doesn't address THOSE ISSUES.
Not surprising that women into abortion would want to blame something or someone other than themselves for their kids' problems.
>>Even with the death of children on their bloody hands, the anti-vaccination fanatics remain totally delusional, totally without a clue.<<
Death of children?
I lived through chicken pox, all measles (including rubella) and mumps.
My niece had Whooping cough (got it as an infant before the second immunization)
Homeschoolers have Chicken Pox parties to pass it around.
No one died. I’m not anti-vaccine but isn’t that statement a bit dramatic?
I especially like shy boys all now being "Asperger's Syndrome." The hyper-diagnosis crowd even includes such well-know failures as suffering "Aspergers": Albert Einstein, Bill Gates and Issac Newton.
I believe you are correct.....except. Vaccines, on their own for a given problem, worked just fine. But statements have been made that when they combined many vaccines together, that’s where the problem came in. I hear that some doctors will not give the all in one vaccine. They spread out the shots, over time, so there are no problems. My question at this point is, has this theory been tested? If not, why not.
There is no vaccine for ovarian cancer.
Try actually reading the article under consideration in the post.
“Not surprising that women into abortion would want to blame something or someone other than themselves for their kids’ problems. “
I don’t know about that.
Blaming and abortion which is by choice is hardly blaming the abortion - it is a choice by a human being.
Speaking of abortion there are credible studies that link abortion to breast cancer. I think these studies should help women be more responsible for their actions because consequences are severe in some cases ... .
No - but isn’t that the angle they push on that Gardisil - HPV vac.?
>>Ive had flu shots for 35 years. Never had the flu. Never had a reaction. But I guess thats just me and everybody I know.<<
I am seriously beginning to wonder about the control on flu shots. Here in Macomb county MI, I will tell you that tons of people have gotten sick after flu shots. Maybe it’s been luck of the draw.
My family does just fine without the shot. My girls don’t go to school, I don’t work and Dad only goes to one job. We don’t need them.
YES....you and I (older than 55) got a FEW shots....kids these days are loaded up....and...at a young age....it can’t always be good. I can see why parents protest.
I agree...Many of the childhood sicknesses and diseases (measles, whooping cough, etc.) we faced during my childhood the kids of today don’t face.
I remember the polio outbreaks of the 40’s and 50’s, they were scary and most people knew of someone who contracted it, what a godsend the Salk vaccine was.
“There is no vaccine for ovarian cancer.”
Oh they’ve come up with one ... .
Where have you been?
--if you read past the first paragraph, however, you noted that ,IIRC, 70% of it was described as "self-inflicted"--
A trip to any old cemetery will show how many children never made it into adulthood due to diseases we hardly think about because of vaccines.
“The hyper-diagnosis crowd even includes such well-know failures as suffering “Aspergers”: Albert Einstein, Bill Gates and Issac Newton.”
I went through the DX on Aspergers. I fit it, as did basically all my compatriots at MIT.
What problem? There is no problem. There is no evidence that combining vaccines into one injection somehow makes them more dangerous.
Promising vaccine is not the same thing as having one.
Folks are always doing that.
That same belief shows up in the attempt to blame the preservative in vaccines.
This is the one I was thinking of being forced on teens:
Recommended Vaccines and the Diseases they Prevent
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
HPV is a common virus. HPV is most common in people in their teens and early 20s. It is the major cause of cervical cancer in women.
HPV vaccine protects against the types of HPV that most commonly cause cervical cancer and genital warts. This vaccine is recommended for 11 and 12 year old girls. Ideally girls should get 3 doses of this vaccine before their first sexual contact when they could be exposed to HPV. If your teenage daughter missed getting the vaccine when she was 11 or 12, ask her doctor about getting it now.
This is a condition contracted by sexually permissive girls. Believe it or not, all young girls are NOT whores.
I still haven't figured out why vaccines are delivered in general use, shared vials intead of sealed single use vials packed at the factory. Maybe even produce the syringe full at the factory. That way you don't have to use a chemical with mercury in it to prevent bacterial or fungal growth in the vial.
I suspect the poster meant Gardasil, which will prevent many cases of cervical cancer as well as vaginal, vulvar, anal and head and neck cancers.
And we have a winner!
Aspberger’s syndrome falls far short of the MIT problem (which is ordinarily exacerbated by the use of a broomstick in an unexpected orifice.)
Okay, now I’ve read it twice, thinking I missed something the first time. Are you talking about this?
“But it seems no amount of science or regulation will dispel the suspicions. So around the same time that actress Jenny McCarthy was taking the airwaves to propagate her latest theories on vaccines and autism, newly released figures showed that there were 1,348 confirmed cases of measles in England and Wales last year - and two deaths. That compares with 56 cases in 1998, before Wakefield’s paper spawned a cottage industry in fear.”
You are talking about 56 deaths with no other controls except immunizations. This is part of the problem. You used “bloody hands” to describe people who only want the best for their children. Personally, I couldn’t live with not immunizing my girls, but instead of dismissing them or making them out to be kooks, it would be more advantageous to look at the big picture. I have a friend with a non-verbal eight year old with autism. It’s not fun.
The poster was confusing this with the the STD human papilloma virus vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, brand name Gardasil.
I wish to heaven there WAS an ovarian cancer vaccine. Ovarian cancer killed my poor mom. She would be alive today if there was such a vaccine.
By the way there are probably many cancers caused by human papilloma virus. Some experts suspect that a variety of cancer rates will eventually drop among Gardasil vaccinated girls.
The primary motive for having an abortion is to improve one’s life by killing someone else.
Folks are always doing that.
That same belief shows up in the attempt to blame the preservative in vaccines.
Look past the motive for an abortion and the consequences of the abortion that show up later in your physical and emotional health. THAT is what I am referring to.
New Study Shows Abortion is ‘Best Predictor of Breast Cancer’
WASHINGTON, DC, October 3, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons published a study yesterday entitled, “The Breast Cancer Epidemic.” It showed that, among seven risk factors, abortion is the “best predictor of breast cancer,” and fertility is also a useful predictor.
The study by Patrick Carroll of PAPRI in London showed that countries with higher abortion rates, such as England & Wales, could expect a substantial increase in breast cancer incidence. Where abortion rates are low (i.e., Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic) a smaller increase is expected. Where a decline in abortion has taken place, (i.e., Denmark and Finland) a decline in breast cancer is anticipated.
Carroll used the same mathematical model for a previous forecast of numbers of breast cancers in future years for England & Wales based on cancer data up to 1997 that has proved quite accurate for predicting cancers observed in years 1998 to 2004.
In four countries - England & Wales, Scotland, Finland and Denmark - a social gradient has been discovered (unlike that for other cancers) whereby upper class and upwardly mobile women have more breast cancer than lower class women. This was studied in Finland and Denmark and the influence of known risk factors other than abortion was examined, but the gradient was not explained.
Carroll suggests that the known preference for abortion in this class might explain the phenomenon. Women pursuing higher educations and professional careers often delay marriage and childbearing. Abortions before the birth of a first child are highly carcinogenic.
Carroll used national data from nations believed to have “nearly complete abortion counts.” Therefore, his study is not affected by recall bias.
Karen Malec, president of the Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer commented on the latest findings stating: “It’s time for scientists to admit publicly what they already acknowledge privately among themselves - that abortion raises breast cancer risk - and to stop conducting flawed research to protect the medical establishment from massive medical practice lawsuits.”
See the new study online here:
Exactly...they even push multiple vaccines on preemies.
That is correct. I confused the two.
“The poster was confusing this with the the STD human papilloma virus vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, brand name Gardasil.”
“I wish to heaven there WAS an ovarian cancer vaccine. Ovarian cancer killed my poor mom. She would be alive today if there was such a vaccine.”
“By the way there are probably many cancers caused by human papilloma virus. Some experts suspect that a variety of cancer rates will eventually drop among Gardasil vaccinated girls.”
(That is questionable.)
Approx. 80% of American women will be infected with one or another type of genital HPV in their lifetimes, usually in their teens and 20's. Protecting against these infections makes perfect sense. Using inflammatory terms like "whores" merely clouds the picture.
>>Then you must have an allergy to egg albumen. Because the scenario you are describing is impossible.<<
Maybe. But I can tell you that I’m not the only person in my area who believes the same.
And let’s not forget the Rotovirus vaccine that was perfectly safe until kids ended up with perforated bowels.
Oddly enough, my son has not been sick very frequently at all... my wife and I decided to wait until he was two, and to spread out the vaccines to no more than 1 per month.
Some will say that this is cook hysteria. However, I have one very solid results that perhaps most don’t.
A friends two children, count them TWO had a very real occurrence and then diagnoses of Autism. This friend isn’t exactly a liberal nut here guys/gals, he was a very conservative and logical person. (Math/Sciences we are both engineers) So... the net of the story is this. The two children sync’d up on Vaccines and both went to get their shot from the same multi-dose vial. These kids were well behaved but were I believe at the time about 15 months old. They cried infrequently, and acted very much like normal children, who laughed and had great emotion. The day AFTER the vaccines they both began holding their heads in pain, it progressed to a rocking, then into a mix of this with some confusion and dizziness. This continued for 3 days until he had enough and took them in to the Doctor. This was a complete 180 from the kids the Doctor treated, and he was very concerned. So off to a specialist... who then diagnosed them as having autism.
I have the personal experience that gives me pause, and I choose to care for my son in a manner and similarity as how I was raised. In my time we had very few Vaccines, so we are essentially doing the same roll-out that both my wife and I had.
Oddly enough there ARE vaccines that have far and above more mercury than a person should have in a year, and why people get lazy and try to save $ and Dr. visits to jam their kids full of vaccines all at once is mind boggling.
I could go on and on here, but everything is not what it seems in my opinion.