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Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul Part II
The New Jersey Star-Ledger ^ | February 14, 2009 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:30 AM PST by King of Card Games

How quickly they forget.

All these dupes of the national Republican Party, I mean.

Just a few months ago John McCain was promising a plan that would have created a budget deficit equal to or greater than the one now being created by Barack Obama.

But now that it's Obama who's in the White House, the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2009; lping; mulshine; paul; paulmulshine; ronpaul
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1 posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:30 AM PST by King of Card Games
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To: djsherin; bamahead

/mark


2 posted on 02/17/2009 3:21:11 AM PST by KoRn (Autumn Has Come To The Tree of Liberty)
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To: King of Card Games
Exactly, I'll believe it when I see it! the Republicans making one or two "stands" does not make a trend...

...We'll see if this continues, I liking what I've been seeing so far, but I will not jump behind the band wagon yet. Conservatives and the Conservative movement have been kicked to the curb to many times AFTER an election!

3 posted on 02/17/2009 3:26:16 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: AvOrdVet
Conservatives and the Conservative movement have been kicked to the curb to many times AFTER an election!

X2. Exactly

In fact, I may have to modify my tag to change "were" into "are."

4 posted on 02/17/2009 3:53:10 AM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: King of Card Games
But perhaps you think cutting taxes is conservative.

yeah.

5 posted on 02/17/2009 3:58:21 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: King of Card Games

Yes - I keep telling myself that the presidential win for Obama was just the greater of two evils. I’m waiting for totalitarian gun control like they have in sphincters like Mass, NYC, Germany, and England to rise to the top of the Obama/Democrat(and some Republican) tyranny wish list.


6 posted on 02/17/2009 4:03:56 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: bill1952
In fact, I may have to modify my tag to change "were" into "are."

LOL, I heard that!... We'll see if the trending continues for the GOP, just got through reading an article on Fox, says A LOT of current GOP and some dems will be "retiring" in 2010!

7 posted on 02/17/2009 4:07:15 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: King of Card Games
So this fing moron threw his vote away on Ron Paul (effectively giving the Dems another vote) and still wants to blame GWB and the Republicans.

On their worst day, a bill like porkulus would never have been considered by Republicans. Neither would turning their backs on Israel, running away from Iraq, the Fairness Doctrine, publicly funded abortions, and so many other basic far left goals.

Republicans and GWB never had a conservative majority in Congress, indeed, only had the majority for four out of eight years. There was no chance to cut the size of the government. Tax cuts were it for restarting our economy after the recession of 2000 and 9/11.

Paulites and borderbots have gotten exactly what they wanted...no RINOs. Problem is, that handed total control to the far left Democrats. 7 out of 10 of the most liberal Republicans are out of office...each one replaced by a DEMOCRAT.

Enjoy it you morons!!!

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8 posted on 02/17/2009 4:13:37 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Rant seconded.


9 posted on 02/17/2009 4:19:40 AM PST by livius
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To: King of Card Games

paul and Conservatism should never be used together. He even sucks as a good Libertarian.

LLS


10 posted on 02/17/2009 4:31:38 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: King of Card Games
Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul Part II

Wow, an admission of blame.
11 posted on 02/17/2009 4:32:29 AM PST by aruanan
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To: A.Hun
They are indeed morons if paul was involved in any way. He is so crazy even HE does not know who and what he is... but he ain't CONSERVATIVE!

LLS

12 posted on 02/17/2009 4:33:14 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: AvOrdVet

Republicans...phooey. The only light they have seen is the one over the door at bank vault. Getting re-elected is their religion. /sarc


13 posted on 02/17/2009 4:35:46 AM PST by pointsal
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To: King of Card Games

I DO BLAME YOU
you convict yourself.


14 posted on 02/17/2009 4:46:33 AM PST by aumrl
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To: A.Hun; livius; LibLieSlayer

See Tag Line. Paul’s just a messenger.


15 posted on 02/17/2009 4:47:42 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: LibLieSlayer
but he ain't CONSERVATIVE!

And neither is anyone that ever supported his sorry ass. He's the right's equivalent to Nader.

16 posted on 02/17/2009 4:52:29 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: King of Card Games
Don't blame me, I voted for Ron Paul Part II

You people just don't get it do you. Ron Paul never had a chance to win. By voting for him you took away votes from McCain (who was the last republican we wanted) but better than the DOPE you gave us. Thanks alot. And your children who will be stuck paying for this SPOS will thank you also. NOT!

17 posted on 02/17/2009 4:53:46 AM PST by McGruff (Oh no, there goes Tokyo! Go go PORKZILLA!)
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To: wolfcreek

There is a world of difference between Republicans and Democrats politically....if the last month hasn’t shown that to you, you are willfully blind.


18 posted on 02/17/2009 4:55:15 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: wolfcreek

Seconded.

To the above ranters who insist on the “republicans good, democrats bad” mantra despite 8 years of facts to the contrary, I just want to ask:
How was American idol last night?
Did they vote off your fav guy on Survivor?
What’s that whacky Brittney up to these days?

How about turning off Oprah, opening your eyes, and taking a look where the judas goats of the elite are leading us?


19 posted on 02/17/2009 4:58:05 AM PST by Ipponed (Roe vs Wade, as in: should we row or wade through the ocean of the spilt blood of the innocent)
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To: A.Hun
There is a world of difference between Republicans and Democrats politically....if the last month hasn’t shown that to you, you are willfully blind.

As long as the GOP is in the minority, that's true. The GOP puts on a good game. But when the GOP gets into power, it's a different story.

20 posted on 02/17/2009 4:58:54 AM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: rabscuttle385; djsherin; bamahead; murphE; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Captain Kirk; Gondring; ...

Ron Paul ping


21 posted on 02/17/2009 4:59:57 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: gusopol3

Cutting taxes while doing nothing about the size of government is sheer lunacy. If being “conservative” these days means proposing tax cuts because the cuts will bring in even more money to the government, then the word has lost all meaning. Cutting spending is conservative. Cutting government is conservative. Cutting taxes while continually increasing government is destroying the country. All “conservatives” have to offer anymore is more tax schemes to more efficiently rob us. This is not conservative.


22 posted on 02/17/2009 5:02:32 AM PST by all the best
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To: King of Card Games

The Republicans mistake in the primaries was that instead of saying, “Ron’s right on a lot of issues but...” disagreeing with him on foreign policy, they pilloried his economic ideas, small governmetn ideas, et al. That left a bad taste in my mouth.

They were still fighting so THEY could play Santa with the Treasury instead of the Dems. That was/is the wrong game to play.

PS - Good luck funding a war in Iraq or anyplace else with these deficits.


23 posted on 02/17/2009 5:03:36 AM PST by Puddleglum (this space for rent)
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To: A.Hun

“There is a world of difference between Republicans and Democrats politically”

Philosophically, Yes. Once they get a taste of DC power...they’re all the same. Power and Money.


24 posted on 02/17/2009 5:05:13 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek; Publius Valerius
Once they get a taste of DC power...they’re all the same. Power and Money.

It is far easier to bitch than to govern...just ask Odumbo.

25 posted on 02/17/2009 5:12:59 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Ipponed
Any sense of *coming to the rescue* we might be receiving from Washington, (from either party) is an illusion. They're robbing us blind and setting us up for future thefts. Paving the way for the eventual Socialist takeover.

This supposed *2 party system* is nothing more than a distraction.

26 posted on 02/17/2009 5:14:02 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: A.Hun

Who’s bitchin?

Paul was right and tried to warn us several years back. Maybe we’ll listen now if it’s not too late.


27 posted on 02/17/2009 5:15:36 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: djsherin
Ron Paul ping

Ron Paul Moron ping.

Fixed it for you.

28 posted on 02/17/2009 5:15:36 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

His isolationist, “war is NEVER the answer” stupidity might make him untenable as a POTUS candidate... But Dr. Paul is FAR to the Right of most of the rest of the GOP faithful on economic and Bill of Rights issues.


29 posted on 02/17/2009 5:21:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant)
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To: A.Hun
this fing moron threw his vote away on Ron Paul (effectively giving the Dems another vote)

Sorry, no. He probably would not have voted at all - given the choice between liberal and liberal lite, then it makes little difference in the long run.

borderbots have gotten exactly what they wanted...no RINOs.
that handed total control to the far left Democrats. 7 out of 10 of the most liberal Republicans are out of office...each one replaced by a DEMOCRAT.

Still better than turning the GOP into less far left liberal trash, and leaves a chance at electing conservatives in the future. -
Any GOP member who would attach his name to a corrupt kook like Kennedy deserves no respect from conservatives - McCain/Kennedy

each one replaced by a DEMOCRAT.Enjoy it you morons!!!

Take it to the cheerleaders section at www.GOP.com.
This is a Conservative forum

30 posted on 02/17/2009 5:21:05 AM PST by bill1952 (McCain and the GOP were worthless)
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To: A.Hun; djsherin

I suppose you think McQueeg would of been any different. Man, you are NOT paying attention.


31 posted on 02/17/2009 5:21:35 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: Puddleglum

That’s how I always felt. I think the GOP disenfranchised a lot of libertarian and potential Republican voters with their behavior towards Paul. To be fair I think a lot of those people were kind of wacko and out there, but if they saw that the GOP was embracing limited government and at the very least welcoming some differing views, it would have gone a lot further than just dismissing Paul.


32 posted on 02/17/2009 5:21:43 AM PST by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: King of Card Games

So if Ron Paul was the savior why did he NOT warn us about what the liberals were doing to the economy. Seems to me he was far more concerned in stopping US from fighting barbaric uncivilized terrorists in their own sand pits, than preserving our economy.

I never paid much attention to Ron Paul especially went he ranted against the ‘war’, but I have no memory of him warning anybody about the looming housing bubble and the liberal bankers spreading toxic debt through out the economic system.


33 posted on 02/17/2009 5:23:50 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: bill1952
Still better than turning the GOP into less far left liberal trash, and leaves a chance at electing conservatives in the future. -

Yeah, right....you're no longer going to elect conservatives in those areas (in case you haven't noticed).

Take it to the cheerleaders section at www.GOP.com.

Why don't you take your comments back to Liberty Post or Stormfront.

34 posted on 02/17/2009 5:25:29 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: wolfcreek

Did McQueeg support abortion? Abandoning the WOT? The Fairness Doctrine? Disarming US citizens?

No....you are not paying attention.


35 posted on 02/17/2009 5:27:14 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Just mythoughts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080218/howl


36 posted on 02/17/2009 5:29:15 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: A.Hun
Global warming, illegal immigration, Gitmo. Like I said, the illusion is there for rationalizing.

Look beyond the *2 party system*. The similarities between McCain and Obama will astound you.

37 posted on 02/17/2009 5:32:49 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: wolfcreek

McManiac was the last choice for most Republicans...he was still far better than Obama.

We are already seeing what the Dems are going to do on GW, Gitmo. Wait till you see what comes down the road on illegal immigration....I expect the Dems will give them immediate citizenship and reparations for their treatment at the hands of Republicans. We certainly won’t need GWB’s fence anymore.

Even though McQueeg was wrong on those issues and others, he would have been nowhere near as radical as the Dems. We would have had the opportunity to fight them...

We’re doomed now....in part thanks to short sighted, Donner Party “conservatives”.


38 posted on 02/17/2009 5:39:29 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

A. Hun:
“There is a world of difference between Republicans and Democrats politically....if the last month hasn’t shown that to you, you are willfully blind.”

Sam Stein: “But the quickness with which both McCain and Graham have become political allies in the Obama cause is something to behold. Certainly, it affects the debate that has been waged among progressive over the utility of the president’s often-public GOP outreach. On Monday night, Obama headlined a dinner honoring McCain’s service.”

uh huh! I’m seeing a lot of differences. /s


39 posted on 02/17/2009 5:39:51 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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But the quickness with which both McCain and Graham have become political allies in the Obama cause is something to behold.

Yep, they sure supported him on Porkulus.

40 posted on 02/17/2009 5:40:53 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: djsherin; King of Card Games; A.Hun; livius; LibLieSlayer; rabscuttle385; Gondring

djsherin ,I see you attract the Bush/McCain-bots who jump in your posts to attack Paul. It’s so ironic that the major complaint about Paul is that he was against any involvement of the US in the Middle East. Yet it was Bush leading congress, having is own party for 5-6 years, that bankrupted the nation and our greatly hurt our status as a world power. (and he gave us Pelosi 2006 and then Obama 2008 with a socialist mandate.) Read James Dale Davidsons 1980s book, the “Great Reckoning ‘. World powers are always destroyed and replaced when they bankrupt themselves with multiple wars and welfare spending at the same time(with broad based tax cuts and rebates). It was England before us. So Bush is more responsible than even democrats for our destruction which is why he is blamed by most of public. Ron Paul followers (I was not one) had nothing to do with it and if anything warned us.


41 posted on 02/17/2009 5:41:26 AM PST by sickoflibs (Keynesian Economics : "If you won't spend your money WE WILL!")
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To: King of Card Games
the Beltway Republicans are trying to convince us that they've seen the light and converted to fiscal conservatism

Yeah, right....I'll believe THAT when pigs start flying.

42 posted on 02/17/2009 5:44:14 AM PST by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: sickoflibs
Yet it was Bush leading congress, having is own party for 5-6 years, that bankrupted the nation and our greatly hurt our status as a world power.

Pure, unadulterated BS. I suppose you would have preferred us joining the ICC, kissing Saddam's ass, and trying to understand the "reasons those poor terrorists attacked us".

You know, we had over four years of astounding growth and good economic times....the housing market crash and Fannie Mae were not GWB or the Republicans fault. They tried to regulate FM/FM and were stopped by the Dems. Greenspan and the Federal Reserve set interests rates and money supply.

43 posted on 02/17/2009 5:49:26 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
“We’re doomed now....in part thanks to short sighted, Donner Party “conservatives”.”

I hope you're dead wrong. Arguing about the *faux* election we just experienced will get us nowhere and plays right into the hands of the International Socialist Elite who are making their latest power play.

My suggestion; forget about this political distraction and take a stand against the real problem.

44 posted on 02/17/2009 5:50:54 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: King of Card Games

If it were up to Ron Paul all of our troops would be home right now and we would have lost the War, which would certainly be friendly to our enemies. I will never forgive him for being a first class idiot.


45 posted on 02/17/2009 5:52:41 AM PST by ohioman
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To: A.Hun

That's a pretty good description of the GOP these days, isn't it? Oh well...they have no one to blame but themselves when they nominate a globalist/illegal alien-supporting RINO like John McCain as their choice for President, is it not?

46 posted on 02/17/2009 5:53:04 AM PST by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Dead Corpse

His isolationist, “war is NEVER the answer” stupidity will get us exterminated as a culture and nation.......

This is NOT 1790.......


47 posted on 02/17/2009 5:57:41 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: wolfcreek
My suggestion; forget about this political distraction and take a stand against the real problem.

No wolf, I'm sorry, but we are totally and permanently screwed. We will never have anywhere close to enough votes to overturn what the Dems will do in the next two years.

Economically, its even worse. We are facing a complete failure of our economic system and we put people in charge that will answer it with communism. The worse the economy gets, the more powerful the Dems will get.

We gave them control of the money....regardless of how much is spent, the most important thing was WHO IS DOING THE SPENDING. Porkulus is the proof....the amount is disgusting, but who they gave the money to is worse.

48 posted on 02/17/2009 5:58:30 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: wolfcreek
Paul was right? Really. Paul wanted to surrender to al Qaeda. Paul would do nothing to stop them from severing your head or setting off a Nuke in this country ad since you blindly support him, I would shove you and other Paulnuts to the front of the line in front of the women and children.
49 posted on 02/17/2009 5:58:34 AM PST by utahson
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To: A.Hun
There is a world of difference between Republicans and Democrats politically....if the last month hasn’t shown that to you, you are willfully blind.

They are. They still sit around and stew, continually blaming everyone on our side who is not a pure Paulist, railing angrier and angrier with any Republican,yelling RINO at every opportunity, while the dems happily push our country into oblivion.

Then, of course, they get even angrier at the Republicans.....

50 posted on 02/17/2009 6:01:31 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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