It's Time for American Freedom Fighters to Unite

Right Side News ^ | February 17, 2009 | JB Williams

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"Most dictators and tyrants came from fatherless house holds. Either the father is gone, or totally distant so as to be unknown in the child's life. Read a few articles about it once, but they have gone down the memory hole. "
39 posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:25:28 PM by redgolum

Obama is projecting that sense of abandonment and powerlessness into creating this Socialist Moloch state. The anger and resentment he radiates comes from that abandonment by his natural father. But a society of fatherless, rootless, immoral citizens becomes increasingly difficult to govern. The cynical view is that they want more illegal immigrants because the Dems find illiterate people disconnected from the culture easier to manipulate.

[sneakers]

bump!

[sneakers]

Ping!

[HonestConservative]

I’m united, where are the rest?

[Travis McGee]

I still have many friends in uniform, from boots to brass and everywhere in between and we all communicate almost daily. Obama had better not depend on those who took an oath to defend the constitution and the people against his type.... He ain’t too bright, but I sure hope he is smarter than that... Given the choice between following his order, going muzzle to muzzle with citizens or ignoring his order, in their defense, it could turn out to be his worst day ever.

That's a pretty good synopsis of my third novel.

[Travis McGee]

Hitler had a domineering tyrant papa.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Who died in 1903 when Adolf was still at a relatively young impressionable age (13?). Although the paternity has been questioned by some. He didn't have a good relationship with his father and was worried about uncertain ancestry. He longed for and looked for a substitute father figure, perhaps finding it in Dietrich Eckart of the Thule Society and various other mentors. Sort of like Obama's Frank Marshall Davis and Saul Alinsky. An older male figure who provides an ideology and worldview the father failed to provide. Both were minorities, barely containing anger & resentment, with grandiose dreams, who rose from obscurity to expand statist power during periods of economic crisis. Interesting analogy to raise.

But Adolf was spanked vigorously by a distempered father, like Nietzsche.

[Travis McGee]

All great points. Did you ever read “The Psycopathic God,” an analysis of Hitler? Very interesting read.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

That’s a good one. By Prof. Waite, the historian? That analyzes his obsession with the Franz Stuck paintings.
The Langer OSS report dossier is interesting too.
As a frustrated artist whose father died when he was still young he was searching for approval, attention, and revenge.

[Travis McGee]

I have not reread it in more than a decade, time to pull it from the shelf.

The Psychopathic God, by Robert G. L. Waite, 1977. Fascinating work. Spellbinding.

I hope we have no similar cause to psychoanalyze Obama a decade hence.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

"I hope we have no similar cause to psychoanalyze Obama a decade hence. " 50 posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:32:15 PM by Travis McGee

Well, for him expanding statist power does seem to be a form of mysticism or some kind of religious experience of transcendence. His cult followers seem to get a buzz from it. As if there is something magical about Big Government. Like they are visiting Santa Claus.

[Smokin' Joe]

Let's admit it - they believe in their Cause more than we do. Come on - admit it.

There is a purity in their evil unmatched by our collective good, if that is what you mean. When everyone there is willing to sell their souls for their particular cause, and their lack of belief permits them to ally with anyone at all who does not oppose them, they succeed in presenting a more unified front.

When you believe in something, when there are moral absolutes involved which you are not willing to give in on because you regard that as wrong, you will not be as successful.

We have, culturally speaking, reached the point where many people are willing to sell some beliefs for others.

Let me put it another way.

Some people are willing to eat the cookie, no matter how much dog poop went into the dough. Others will not eat any dog poop at all, and will not eat the cookie, no matter how little so long as any dog poop went into the dough. The majority are willing to eat the cookie if there is chocolate, or nuts, or sprinkles, or their favorite ingredient, so long as there is not so much dog poop in the cookie they can't overlook it.

The left has been undermining the idea of moral absolutes for decades, now, with the very aim of fractionating resistance, and apparently, they have thus far been successful.

[RipSawyer]

All that reminds me of a guy I knew who ran a print shop twenty years ago. He was talking about trying to train a woman to develop litho film in the darkroom. She was bad about carelessly getting the fixer in the developer tray and ruining the developer mix. She couldn’t understand when he told her that a little developer in the fixer wouldn’t hurt but a little fixer in the developer would ruin the batch. Finally he pointed to the developer tray and said, “Okay, pretend that is milk”, she nodded and he pointed to the fixer and said, “Pretend that is cow manure, okay?” She nodded again and he said, “So you can see that if you get a little milk in the cow manure it won’t hurt anything but if you get cow manure in the milk it is ruined.” He said she never had a problem after that!

Those who stayed home rather than vote for McCain/Palin have refused the milk with a very small amount of cow manure in it and now we all are faced with the cow manure with only a hint of milk in it.

[goodnesswins]

Instead of Obama's "Remaking America".....RETAKING America seems more appropriate....

[DuncanWaring]

By the way, Montana just passed a bill giving the bird to the BATFU folks: firearms manufactured in Montana, purchased in Montana, and kept in Montana, are not subject to federal firearm laws.

Are they made from steel smelted in Montana from iron ore and coal mined in Montana?

If not, that's where the BATFU folks will claim their entree.

[DuncanWaring]

He could see it coming and declare martial law, suspend habeas corpus and call up the military. Hmmm...sounds a tad familiar!

He certainly has been trying to draw other "Lincolnesque" parallels.

[Paige]

As per usual, yet another Conservative that misses the point.

Let’s say this - Take a long look around...not only at D.C. but at the local and state governments...now answer this question... Are their major problems....such as... Are the Socialist taking over? Understand that this did not take place overnight...the lack of involvement of Conservatives in the state schools, local politics, house districts, state elections, etc.,...these are some of the reasons we are now to this point.

The Founding Fathers “COLLECTIVELY” worked together for a Common Good to stop a power hungry King.

You can defend the Individual stand, but I will stick with the mindset of the Founding Fathers. There are a few of us who believe in Individuality, and our Constitution, who are active on a daily basis. Oh and Yes, I work, but as soon as I leave my day job then I am off to write the letters, make the calls,and participate in local meetings,etc. Why? Cause it is the right thing to do.

As the Father of the Constitution so eloquently stated:
I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.
James Madison

In other words, Liberty cannot continue without an ever vigilant people keeping an eye on their elected officials.

“Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

My Conservative Ideology stands, BUT working along with other like minded Conservatives will bring about the much needed change that is needed “IF” we are to protect the Liberties and Freedoms we have so enjoyed.

Be Blessed

[Smokin' Joe]

working along with other like minded Conservatives will bring about the much needed change that is needed “IF” we are to protect the Liberties and Freedoms we have so enjoyed

My intent was not to embrace the fractionation of our cause, but to explain why that exists in the face of our opponents' apparent unity.

I have noticed that (as an observation) within any given subset of humanity, if one wants to be in agreement with more people, having fewer and less emphatic beliefs is an asset. Those who have no standards whatsoever are the most maleable, chameleonic, and readily lend their numbers to most anything, any cause, and although they seldom contribute much more, votes are about numbers after all.

It is no surprise that more demanding standards reduce the pool.

It is interesting that our 'liberal' opponents may have a pet issue or two, but their embrasure of 'anything goes' certainly makes it much easier to rally multitudes beneath their banner.

At the same time, I heard more bickering (and admittedly participated in some) over what constitutes "Conservatism". Some would say it is a principled regard in practice and theory for the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Others would trumpet the proscription of abortion, homosexuality, intemperance, illegal invasion, terrorism, or a combination of these, still others sound fiscal policy, and yet more a strong, even preemptive defense of our nation.

While some remain who are for almost all of these to some degree or another, it is the emphasis on our differences, the balkanization of Conservatism, happily served up by the liberal media in the form of neo-/paleo-/crunchy-/so-/fiscal- 'cons' terminology, to name some, a series of unnecessary and (intentionally) counterproductive divisions in the ranks which have, for now, placed the ability of those on the right to work together in jeopardy.

I agree we need to work together, but you missed my point, that being to identify why we have not been doing so enough.

Now, you have a 'day' job, which must be nice. Some of us do not, but end up working in remote areas for weeks at a time. That often renders us unable to attend meetings with any regularity, although we do write letters and e-mail.

Those of the liberal and parasitic classes have far more time than the productive to organize, attend meetings, bellow the liberal war cry of " For the chilrunnn..!", because for all practical purposes, that is the 'employment' they have chosen; the 'rewards' are the removal of our rights and treasure.

I am blessed, and still doing my small part to try to make America more energy independant, despite the carnage which appears in an industry after the commodity it produces suffers a drop in price of 75% in roughly a year. At this point, though, continuing in that aim takes an extra effort above and beyond the already stringent demands of a 24/7 job.

Thanks to the wonder of the internet, however, I have been able to keep up with developments, at least on a national level, and to send e-mails, write 'letters', etc.

I have never been willing to give up liberty for the illusion of safety, although plenty are, many of whom call themselves one of those hyphenated cons.

If we are going to identify the tactical and even strategic differences which have led to the current situation, it does not hurt to see why conservative efforts are being less than effective so we can remedy that.

I think a good start would be to end the labelling, counterproductive, 'I am more conservative than you' pissing contests, and come together on the individual issues we do agree upon. We need to get more mission oriented on individual issues, and we need to try to take back the local entities which most deeply affect the political philosophies of our citizenry, namely the media and the schools. That is going to be a long, hard fight.

[iacovatx]

“leftists in power do NOT part with it willingly or readily.”

That is a good insight. The leftists, shockingly, also have command of the military and other armed forces in the US. Despite what many people believe, leftists are violent people and if they feel threatened they will use violence to control or destroy their opposition.

To avoid the violence that could be unleashed by the left, Americans must take an economic approach to their defeat. An essential part of the strategy to defeat the left is economic. True Americans have to cut off the supply of money to the left and must obtain a strong flow of financial support themselves. If just one state threatened to hinder the flow of tax money to the central government in some manner, that would get the leftists’ attention. If a movement arose to weaken the debt funding of the leftist central government, that might get their attention. Defaulting on the bonds that fund the national debt would be very harmful to Americans, in the short term, but just the threat of that (which already exists from bond rating agencies) might eventually constrain some of the wild socialist spending.

Allies are crucial, both here and abroad. Which nations benefit from an economically strong US? Where is the American who will step up and combat Soros’ funds with funds to restore American freedom?

[Paige]

I think a good start would be to end the labelling, counterproductive, 'I am more conservative than you' pissing contests, and come together on the individual issues we do agree upon. We need to get more mission oriented on individual issues, and we need to try to take back the local entities which most deeply affect the political philosophies of our citizenry, namely the media and the schools. That is going to be a long, hard fight.

On this we totally agree. Because I have pushed for UNITY among Conservatives, I've been labeled a Liberal on here numerous times.

Without any doubts, the Media and the State Run Schools are the problems. Over the last five years, I have written several opeds pertaining to the media. This election was theirs and they admittedly stated time and time again they were making history. In doing so, they were determined no one would get in their way...even the American Citizens.

Since the media has proven to themselves they are powerful enough to get a Kenyan Socialist elected, the media will continue to fervently work toward control of the radio airwaves, as well as regulating the Internet. We are only seeing the beginnings of what will take place if Conservatives do not stop bickering and do not unite.

Be Blessed