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US states may axe executions to cut costs
AFP ^ | Feb. 17, 2009

Posted on 02/17/2009 9:06:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

In an unexpected twist to the economic crisis, several US states are weighing whether to abolish the death penalty as the execution process proves too great a drain on dwindling resources.

Death penalty laws remain on the books of 36 of the 50 US states, and capital punishment is supported by some two-thirds of the American public.

But across the nation, states as diverse and far-flung as Montana, Kansas, New Mexico and Maryland are among those actively considering abolishing capital punishment in a bid to overcome ballooning budget shortfalls.

"It is quite unusual that we've seen this blossoming of state legislative activity this year. It's because there is a renewed inspection of the death penalty," Steve Hall, director of the anti-capital punishment group Standdown, told AFP.

Most of the states involved in the move are those which have only executed a few people -- five or less -- in the past 30 years since capital punishment was reinstated in 1976. But "state legislators across America seem to be re-examining the death penalty," he said.

The financial savings could be considerable.

Carrying out the death penalty can leave a state footing a bill that is 10 times higher than for an inmate serving life imprisonment.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Kansas; US: Maryland; US: Montana; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: aba; capitalpunishment; corruption; crime; deathpenalty; felonvote; standdown; tortreform

1 posted on 02/17/2009 9:06:22 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Another reason for Texas to secede. You kill us in Texas, we kill you back.

We can stack them deep and off them cheap.


2 posted on 02/17/2009 9:09:04 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A kill-o-watt may go for 10¢
I doubt it cost more than a dollar to fire up ol sparky and send him to his fate


3 posted on 02/17/2009 9:09:36 PM PST by dennisw (Archimedes--- Give me a place to stand, and I will move the Earth)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
US states may axe executions to cut costs

I'm in favor of using axes for executions...works for me.

4 posted on 02/17/2009 9:10:36 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cheaper to sustain a prisoner for umpteen years or execute them? The logic us goes over my (obviously) dense head.


5 posted on 02/17/2009 9:10:40 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Spktyr

How about they just reform their death penalty laws so they are not spending a fortune for each execution ?!?

Inquiring minds want to know.


6 posted on 02/17/2009 9:11:37 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Here’s an issue in which the libs that run everything can partner with the Catholic church to stop the practice. Politics makes strange bedfellows....and rarely employs common sense.


7 posted on 02/17/2009 9:14:30 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When you factor in appeals after appeals and stays of executions, calls to the Gov in a twenty year time, yes, I guess it is expensive.

Maybe they should shore all that up in a year or two and then let the firing squad or lethal injection, rope etc do its work.

Bill the family of the criminal for the cost of the rope, needle, bullet, etc.


8 posted on 02/17/2009 9:17:15 PM PST by VicVega (what silliness is "side show obama" going to do for us today?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Are they going to axe the executions any other questions? What if the executions say no?


9 posted on 02/17/2009 9:18:14 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: doc1019
Cheaper to sustain a prisoner for umpteen years or execute them? The logic us goes over my (obviously) dense head.

I didn't read the whole article but I believe the "cost" is the seemingly endless appeals and re-appeals due to constant legal manipulation by defense lawyers bolstered by "social justice" groups. Think Mumia Abu Jamal.

10 posted on 02/17/2009 9:20:25 PM PST by torchthemummy (If You Still Have A TV Subscription You Are Funding The Socialist Takeover!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

While these hypocrites are at it, why don’t the cut funding to abortion? I guess if it’s a liberal pet recipient, then no funding is cut.


11 posted on 02/17/2009 9:21:39 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (In 2010, we fix this mess.)
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To: dfwgator

stakes/ropes/anthill.............oh I don’t know, what, maybe 5, 10 bucks? oh yeah honey, add 5 more.


12 posted on 02/17/2009 9:21:56 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They forgot to say, ‘’piss on the victims.’’


13 posted on 02/17/2009 9:23:17 PM PST by Waco
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To: bobby.223

Sell tickets to civic minded citizens.

Sell more expensive tickets to civic minded citizens who wish to form the firing squad. Citizens must provide their own firearms and ammo.


14 posted on 02/17/2009 9:24:15 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: doc1019
The magic words: lawyers, and endless appeals.

Of course, it's the anti-death-penalty crowd COSTING the states these funds, so for them to COMPLAIN about it is more than a bit hypocritical.

15 posted on 02/17/2009 9:44:09 PM PST by SAJ
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To: Spktyr

How about slipping a few hits of heron to the inmates in exchange for a hit on the guys on death row.


16 posted on 02/17/2009 9:46:22 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Total trojan horse. If they were to streamline the process, the expense could be greatly reduced.


17 posted on 02/17/2009 9:50:07 PM PST by MovementConservative (Oregon Ducks 42, Oklahoma St. Cowboys 31)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
In Cal we sentence 20-30 a year to death. However, we execute only one every 2 years or so. Justice delayed for the families of victims.

Here's what we can do in Cal and it will save money. Spend 5 million a year to hire three judges, clerks, investigators, attorneys, and staff. Pay for all the DNA tests we need.

Expedite all of the appeals. Reduce the time it takes to execute. Reduce the population on death row, by expediting appeals and executions.

Don't build the $300,000,000 new death row.

18 posted on 02/17/2009 9:50:20 PM PST by nufsed
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I find it hard to believe that executions cost more than life sentences

This sounds like a liberal ploy to grant more criminal rights

First, they do away with electrocutions because it was cruel...now injections are cruel

Note that the pro-criminal crowd only gets involved in death penalty cases when it is near execution time...never during a trial. That is the time to determine guilt or innocence

Streamline the death row appeals...cut down on time for the appeals....give them DNA tests


19 posted on 02/17/2009 10:04:24 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Huh?

9MM ammo is dirt cheap!

Remington® Golden Saber™ 9 mm 147 Gr. BJHP 25 rds. $16.77 or Club Price $15.93 http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/browse/browseammo.aspx?c=95&s=959
20 posted on 02/17/2009 10:14:43 PM PST by papasmurf (Impeach the illegal bastard!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have got to read more carefully! At first I thought it said that states were going to save money on executions by using axes!


21 posted on 02/17/2009 10:22:17 PM PST by skepsel
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Spktyr
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"
22 posted on 02/17/2009 10:24:19 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I sense a job opportunity!


23 posted on 02/17/2009 10:40:18 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: doc1019

Cheaper to sustain a prisoner for umpteen years or execute them? The logic us goes over my (obviously) dense head....”

The expense is the years and decades of legal wrangling to finally set and keep an execution date.


24 posted on 02/17/2009 10:42:30 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Never a bad idea.

“You’re human!” “Barely. I’m a lawyer.” - Blade Trinity.


25 posted on 02/17/2009 10:43:34 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; DoughtyOne; Eaker

The solution is not abolishing the death penalty but TORT REFORM to make it cheap, swift and sure.

Commies and crime profiteers and dirty politicians seeking felon votes (but I repeat myself) don’t want that.


26 posted on 02/17/2009 10:50:03 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, this is a new one. Don’t do it Texas. Stand tall.


27 posted on 02/17/2009 10:55:50 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cost = Lawyers

Keep the maggot alive, we’re getting paid by the hour!


28 posted on 02/18/2009 12:26:49 AM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What's so exspensive about a rope?How about if they do away with the court appointed lawyers and the years of appeals.
29 posted on 02/18/2009 3:12:02 AM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The financial savings could be considerable

Horsepuckey!

Incarceration at $40,000 a year per inmate (last I heard), vs. 10 bucks for a good rope or 32 cents for a bullet.

Maybe they need to stop trying to use the 'new math'.

30 posted on 02/18/2009 3:36:40 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT an administrative, collective, corporate, legal, political or public ~entity~!!!)
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To: torchthemummy

“I didn’t read the whole article but I believe the “cost” is the seemingly endless appeals and re-appeals due to constant legal manipulation by defense lawyers bolstered by “social justice” groups. Think Mumia Abu Jamal.”

I would think liberals would want the death penalty to continue to exist, as all the leftist lawyers make money off of the appeals process bigtime.


31 posted on 02/18/2009 4:27:20 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: BIGLOOK

“The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers”

My sentiments precisely, Mr. Shake-a-Spear.


32 posted on 02/18/2009 4:28:48 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: Islander7
The expense is the years and decades of legal wrangling to finally set and keep an execution date.

...at which time said expenses cease.

This is really an indictment of the death penalty process, not of the death penalty itself. But instead of fixing the process, they want to just give it up. Geniuses, all of them.

33 posted on 02/18/2009 6:20:33 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: dennisw
Cyanide crystals for gas chamber use are pretty cheap too!
34 posted on 02/18/2009 7:40:42 AM PST by HenpeckedCon (1/20/13 - Obama's Last Day!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; ...

And that’s what a lengthy appeals process gets you.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


35 posted on 02/18/2009 9:38:05 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I agree...


36 posted on 02/18/2009 11:56:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Resolved: Gregg, McCain, Snowe, Spectre: 2010, Collins, Graham: 2014)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
One .22 cal hollowpoint and 15 minutes with a backhoe shouldn't cost much.

OTOH, forget the backhoe; make them dig their own holes...

37 posted on 02/18/2009 3:54:49 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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