Posted on 02/18/2009 7:15:22 AM PST by yankeedame
Bill Status of HB0687 96th General Assembly
House Sponsors
Rep. Kenneth Dunkin
Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
430 ILCS 65/4.5 new
430 ILCS 65/8 from Ch. 38, par. 83-8
Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Provides that any person who owns a firearm in this State shall maintain a policy of liability insurance in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person.
Provides that a person shall be deemed the owner of a firearm after the firearm is lost or stolen until such loss or theft is reported to the police department or sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the owner resides. Provides that the Department of State Police shall revoke and seize a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued under this Act if the Department finds that the person to whom such card was issued possesses or acquires a firearm and does not submit evidence to the Department of State Police that he or she has been issued in his or her name a liability insurance policy in the amount of at least $1,000,000 specifically covering any damages resulting from negligent or willful acts involving the use of such firearm while it is owned by such person. Effective January 1, 2010.
Adios 2nd. Amendment. And if you don’t pay they take you away.
Time to take a day from work, and march on Springfield en masse. Enough of this bullsh**.
Whoever it was yesterday that predicted this, come and take a bow. They’re not outlawing gun ownership, they’re just going to make it too expensive to own one.
Has this been passed?
Ah, the socialization of your life delivered by the socialization of risk through the socialists. Clever aren’t they?
Once again...Illinois is in the “front” of breaching the Constitution.
This is WAY out of hand...these guys show no sign of stopping!
I’m a criminal defense lawyer in Illinois and haven’t heard a thing about this law. Normally something like this would have a criminal penalty attached. I’ll ask around and post what I find.
Not that I practice such but if the only reason you have a firearm is to mount a defense of home (or country), why would you obtain the FOID or it’s (possibly) requisite insurance.
If you defend your home, your gun will be confiscated and some sort of charge will be found.
If it comes to defending the Constitution, it’s a moot point.
Thanks very much.
Am I interpretin gthis wrong? It seems like it says the owner is reponsible for the firearm even after it has been stolen?
Actions
Date Chamber Action
2/5/2009 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Kenneth Dunkin
2/6/2009 House First Reading
2/6/2009 House Referred to Rules Committee
Not a law yet. Don’t forget, no Illinois lawmaker west of Route 47 or south of I80 that wants to get re-elected will vote for this, even the Democrats.
let the revolution begin.......these ass clowns have no clue...
The state of NJ will not allow you to have or purchase a firearm with a “fire arms ID (BS) card”. I have a shot gun, rifle and handgun....it is my right to have one, PERIOD.
This administration has only ONE thing in mind...to take over this country. They know that the 2nd amendment is just another roadblock they need to get rid of in order to take this country over without any struggle.
If this keeps going, the Constitution will no longer exist! The only people it hurts are the LAW abiding citizens....
Because in Illinois it's a crime to posess or purchase a firearm or ammunition unless you have an FOID. Including a weapon kept in your home.
“...these ass clowns have no clue...”
No, they know exactly what they are doing....and that’s destroying this country and stealing all the wealth and power from the people! That is their objective.
Let’s put it this way, if aliens came from outer space and told us over and over again that they will cure all sicknesses on this planet and people believed them, but you found out their real plan was to destroy all humanity, as a citizen, what would be the proper thing to do?
Unless you report the theft to the police, which is common sense.
destroy them.........i believe the people (right thinking people that is) are fed up...i have said for the past 10 years that we will see bloodshed in our own streets on the level we see overseas...i think and believe that time is very near as we the people can not endur much more of the madness going on......
As blacks are upto 500% more likely to commit crimes, shouldn’t black babies have to have the same type of insurance? Just being outrageous to highlight the outrageousness.
i agree with you...it’s almost like you can hear the grumbling of this madness that’s about to explode. i was talking to my husband last night and told him “if they pass any of these laws, we’re not going to follow them.” he was silent for a moment and then i said “which means we become criminals...” he looked at me and smiled and then said “well atleast all that ammo we bought won’t go to waste...”
these people don’t realize they are biting off more than they can chew.
So will I need insurance to exercise my other rights too?
My thoughts also!
I suppose that their bro.s on the south side will all have this insurance, yea right.
Someone told me that shortly after purchasing your guns you need to report them stolen.
He is a sponsor of the bill “OPRAH WINFREY WEEK”
No Joke!
http://www.ilga.gov/house/RepBills.asp?MemberID=1025
us “mountain” folk do think alike!! :)
Who’s getting paid off by the insurance companies? They are the only ones that make out on this deal.
I thot that the 2A was the insurance for the others!
Brings back fond memories of the Flatirons and Eldorado Canyon when I was a much younger man.
Maybe he was just bouldering in that first pic, but tell hubby that ropin' up doesnt' make him any less of a climber, just possibly less of a corpse.
Gotta keep him healthy to teach those cute future FReepers how to climb !
</unsolicited advice . . 5.8+ back in the day>
I live in Illinois. I understand the FOID system. Until and unless I have a firearm and use it, how would such be revealed. That’s my point.
This dipstick is on the “Insurance” committee, so......
filed 2/5/09 ... first reading 2/6/09 ... ... referred to rules committee 2/6/09
no co-sponsors have signed on as yet, a good sign it may go nowhere
I live in illinois, I do have a FOID card, I do own a gun, and I do carry a million-dollar liability umbrella but it does NOT specifically cover any destruction I may wreak with my weapon. I can just imagine my insurance agent's response should I ask to have that spelled out on my policy. Should this bill pass, come 1/1/10 I will become a crominal.
Paging Henry Bowman...you need to “pay a visit” to some Illinois Congresscritters.
Some other bills which he is a part of:
PRESIDENT BUSH-IMPEACHMENT
BANS SEMIAUTOMATIC
CONGRATS STEVEN SPIELBERG
RECOGNIZE GAY GAMES VII
No one, as long as you don't need to purchase ammunition or visit a gunsmith or range. A bill like this won't have any impact on the number of illegal gunowners, other than to increase them. Which is the objective. Lots of casual owners will just take a pass on the FOID.
“I understand the FOID system.”
I understand the poll tax too.
They'll just raise your premium. Though it's a little different, NRA approved insurance for instructors with $1,000,000 liability is $350 per year. I'd guess this should be less since the risk of a range accident or lawsuit over improper training is far greater than this. My guess you've already got the coverage in your umbrella as long as you're following the law, so they'll be glad to charge you.
Doubt this will pass, but they're raising the tax.
The hogs are going to get fat. That’s for sure!
Illinois also classifies tasers as firearms, which shows you exactly where their heart is. Just how often is a taser used in commission of a crime?
Plan on lots of business....Obama’s minions plan to make outlaws of us all!
What would happen if you didn’t register your car and insure it and pay for your driver’s license?
In my state, the registration is $36/yr, the insurance is variable but always unreasonably high, and the DL costs around $10/yr. Now, that’s not a lot, but if you don’t pay it and you’re stopped, your car is seized and impounded. That’s a few hundred dollars right there. Then you get fines and penalties for not having the right paperwork.
Also, you have to get the car inspected every year, and you won’t get your sticker if you don’t show all your good paperwork.
And, if you don’t turn in your plates after not paying your registration on time, or after your insurance lapses, that’s another nasty penalty.
We put up with all these rules. We will put up with the gun insurance racket too.
Of course the ultimate purpose of the gun insurance is to deprive you of guns and marginalize those fewer and fewer gun owners out there. So you should resist, with all your might.
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