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Schwarzenegger says he will not reopen budget talks
Sacramento Bee ^ | 2/18/9 | Shane Goldmacher

Posted on 02/18/2009 2:25:29 PM PST by SmithL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said today that he would not re-open broad negotiations over the state budget -- despite the demand of the new Republican leader in the Senate to remove proposed tax increases -- and told lawmakers to "hold tight" in the effort to win passage of a $41 billion package.

"I know it's a difficult budget," Schwarzenegger said. "The legislators are tired. They have spent nights here, but we are still one vote short. We are going to find that one vote. I want to encourage the legislators to do everything they can and just hold tight and to go and to pass this budget. Never give up."

He downplayed the ouster of Senate Minority Leader Dave Cogdill early this morning, saying the situation has not changed: Cogdill and one other Republican, Sen. Roy Ashburn, will still vote for the plan. Two other GOP senators -- Dave Cox of Fair Oaks and Abel Maldonado of Santa Maria -- have been talking to the governor and Senate Democrats about changes that could make one of them provide the final vote needed for passage.

"I will not open up the negotiations on this budget,

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budget; calbudget; goldenstate; schwarzenegger; yourtaxdollarsatwork
Now we know who this one (supposedly) Republican holdout is.
1 posted on 02/18/2009 2:25:29 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

What slays me is that, should this budget NOT pass and (thus) the state government begin to shut down,

it will be REPUBLICANS ONLY whom the MSM blame,

even though the Dems, and the Judases like Schwarzenegger, expressly are rejecting EVEN DEBATE ABOUT further spending cuts — in a budget that has doubled in a decade.


2 posted on 02/18/2009 2:28:13 PM PST by pogo101
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To: SmithL
Dave Cox of Fair Oaks and Abel Maldonado of Santa Maria -- have been talking to the governor and Senate Democrats about changes that could make one of them provide the final vote needed for passage.

They're holding out for a friend/relative/contributor one of those $100k a year do nothing commissions that meet once a year

3 posted on 02/18/2009 2:28:44 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: SmithL

Sure it makes sense to raise taxes on people when the economy is down. Not.


4 posted on 02/18/2009 2:29:04 PM PST by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: pogo101

Well, what can we say? The MSM knows where its bread is buttered.


5 posted on 02/18/2009 2:33:43 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Repeal the 16th!)
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To: SmithL
CA should get out their constitution and read about what the actual government obligation for spending needs are.

Then they should compare it to the Federal Constitution to see what our federal government is actually chartered to govern.

Then they should cut all spending that is neither outlined in the state or federal constitution as unnecessary. They would quickly discover that they would be in a windfall budget situation.

Of course 1 million government workers would probably have to be layed off. Funding for many environmental protection endeavors would go away. And who would tell the businesses where they can do business or how much they had to sell goods and services for? What about the children?

6 posted on 02/18/2009 2:35:20 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Democrats are for Change - Let's run through a mine field at night wearing clown shoes!)
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To: Chet 99

Thanks for reminding us that the vast majority of politicians (regardless of party suffix) are whores who simply cater to a different clientele.


7 posted on 02/18/2009 2:36:40 PM PST by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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To: SmithL
"I know it's a difficult budget," Schwarzenegger said. "The legislators are tired. They have spent nights here, but we are still one vote short............... of being able to raise taxes.
8 posted on 02/18/2009 2:37:48 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: SmithL

There ya go. Close down the entire state legislature... we would be a lot better off. 20,000 workers to be laid off... start with the governor.


9 posted on 02/18/2009 2:42:37 PM PST by BigFinn
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To: SmithL

I don’t think the guy is a hold-out. I think he is the one that has given an indication he is willing to cave if they make him a hero to his district in some manner.

In some ways, Arnold may be doing the right thing in making them balance the budget now when he could delay it and wait for the actual shortfall to occur.

However, he has been silent as the media paints the Republicans of failing to produce the “one vote needed for passage.”

The Democrats hold the majority. It is up to the majority to craft a bill that can be passed and they put in the exact form of gotcha taxation that was the last-straw for Grey Davis so they can say that Arnold has had to do the same thing that Davis did to run the State.

Republicans in California should say nothing but, “The majority party has failed to bringforth anything that does not rely upon heavy thievry from the people of our state. Opposing such thievry is part of our Republican caucus’ fundamental worth to the citizens of a heavily taxed state we all love.”

The same statement, over and over.


10 posted on 02/18/2009 2:48:20 PM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: SmithL

Where is FairOpinion now?

Bwah!


11 posted on 02/18/2009 2:50:03 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: SmithL

Dammit! I spoke with Assburn’s office last night and they said he hadn’t put forth a position yet. I’m calling again to see if they refute the Sac Bee article. I’m so F’n sick of those punks who staff their offices and their damn lies!

SZ

btw - that’s no typo, he really burns my A**!!


12 posted on 02/18/2009 2:56:02 PM PST by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: GOPGuide

13 posted on 02/18/2009 3:02:40 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SmithL

Yes Ahnuld... no more of diz silly tawks of cutting da spendzing...


14 posted on 02/18/2009 3:03:03 PM PST by InsensitiveConservative
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To: SmithL

In California, the public sector is AT WAR with the private sector. The other side is on the high ground with massive artillery: a Democrat majority, a RINO governor, union backers, and media support. All we have is a ragtag group of Republicans who refuse to vote for tax increases. Will they be able to hold out, or will a turncoat Republican stab us in the back? Stay tuned.


15 posted on 02/18/2009 3:04:32 PM PST by Califelephant
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To: pogo101
it will be REPUBLICANS ONLY whom the MSM blame,...

Good. I've never had a problem accepting blame for doing what's right.

16 posted on 02/18/2009 3:05:03 PM PST by The Anti-One (So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.)
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To: SmithL
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said today that he would not re-open broad negotiations over the state budget -- despite the demand of the new Republican leader in the Senate to remove proposed tax increases -- and told lawmakers to "hold tight" in the effort to win passage of a $41 billion package.

What a disappointment...

17 posted on 02/18/2009 3:05:50 PM PST by TheDon
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To: TheDon

I just called Schwartzeneggers office and the lady there said that as of last night there were three votes needed to pass the budget, and that the Governator doesn’t know what he is going to do. She said he doesn’t want to start from scratch on the budget, but doesn’t know what will happen now that there is a new minority leader.


18 posted on 02/18/2009 3:16:48 PM PST by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do work Americans won't do)
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To: SmithL

The GOP should take any voters for the budget out of any leadership position including off any committees. Say no! to higher taxes!


19 posted on 02/18/2009 3:36:57 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: passionfruit
He doesn't know what to do? Why not do what he campaigned for during the recall? He's not supposed to be supporting tax or other increases!

As for the Republicans, they need to organize now around Hollister, and establish an anti tax Assembly leader. They have ultra big support in the KFI 640 John & Ken show and their listeners who would promote them and they should have some of these anti tax Republicans go out and promote their new agenda over the airwaves and media.

Call these people and lawmakers, let them know. All the info is on the KFI 640 John & Ken website including a tax calculator to tell you what your tax increase would be. Tax payers are horrified at what our state is trying to do!

***I just called Schwartzeneggers office and the lady there said that as of last night there were three votes needed to pass the budget, and that the Governator doesn’t know what he is going to do. She said he doesn’t want to start from scratch on the budget, but doesn’t know what will happen now that there is a new minority leader.***

20 posted on 02/18/2009 4:01:18 PM PST by msnpatriot
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To: SmithL

NO


21 posted on 02/18/2009 4:05:45 PM PST by JSDude1 (R(epublicans) In Name Only SUCK; D(emocrats) In Name Only are worth their weight..)
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To: SmithL
"...we are still one vote short. We are going to find that one vote."

I'm sure glad that Schwarzenegger is standing up for his fellow Republicans.

-PJ

22 posted on 02/18/2009 4:13:13 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: SmithL
I know it's a difficult budget," Schwarzenegger said. "The legislators are tired. They have spent nights here, but we are still one vote short. We are going to find that one vote. I want to encourage the legislators to do everything they can and just hold tight and to go and to pass this budget. Never give up."

Sounds more like a union thug blackmail scheme than bipartisan negotiations.
23 posted on 02/18/2009 5:10:24 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: KC Burke
Republicans in California should say nothing but, “The majority party has failed to bringforth anything that does not rely upon heavy thievry from the people of our state. Opposing such thievry is part of our Republican caucus’ fundamental worth to the citizens of a heavily taxed state we all love.” The same statement, over and over.

Actually, I think they also need to come up with a bill of their own that solves the budget without taxing citizens more. Then, they can say that it can be done and show how.
24 posted on 02/18/2009 5:12:10 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: SZonian
Dammit! I spoke with Assburn’s office last night and they said he hadn’t put forth a position yet. I’m calling again to see if they refute the Sac Bee article. I’m so F’n sick of those punks who staff their offices and their damn lies!

Let me know what they say. He's my rep and I've called and emailed letting him know how disgusted I am with him. And that he should change his party affiliation if he's willing to raise taxes on citizens during a recession (after most have lost 30% of their home equity AND 40% of their 401Ks).
25 posted on 02/18/2009 5:13:49 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

They denied it, said it was rumor by the SAC Bee then hung up on me while I was talking to them.

RECALL that SOB! Make him leave in disgrace, not in a golden parachute.

SZ


26 posted on 02/19/2009 7:10:02 AM PST by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: SZonian

I think they were playing games with the truth. Technically, he hadn’t set forth a position since he had abstained from voting (in multiple rounds) until they got Maldonado to roll and provide the final vote needed. He was never “on record” as supporting it until that final round.

His speech was a real gagger, using Ronald Reagan as his reason for voting for taxes (Hey, Reagan did it! WWRRD? He’d vote for it!)

I share your outrage.

He also supported Maldonado’s open primary bills, I believe.


27 posted on 02/19/2009 7:14:36 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

The Bakersfield Californian had him on record, they even wrote an editorial in defense of his position. The bastard and all his staff lied. Semantics, word smithing, whatever, he KNEW what he was going to do.

He sold us out for a few measly pieces of silver and the RATS will still SH*T on him and the other so-called R’s who voted for this POS.

We are hunkering down now. No extra spending except for ammo, we will be making as many purchases as we can at the exchange and commissary. No dining out unless it’s for a special event, etc., etc.

Where do we go from here?

SZ


28 posted on 02/19/2009 7:20:30 AM PST by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: SZonian
Where do we go from here?

I wish I knew. :-(

29 posted on 02/19/2009 7:28:53 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

I need to go for really long mountain bike ride to clear my head. Then see what my options are. I don’t think I will be able to stay here out of principle. I could probably afford it, but there is little, if any chance of moving forward.
SZ


30 posted on 02/19/2009 7:34:31 AM PST by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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To: SmithL
Thank goodness we have a Republican governor with line item veto power.

/sarcasm

31 posted on 02/19/2009 9:27:28 AM PST by Mojave (Don't blame me. I voted for McClintock.)
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