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Man accused of writing on Alamo wall
San Antonio Express News ^ | 2/18/09 | Robert Crowe

Posted on 02/19/2009 6:32:37 AM PST by laotzu

The alleged perpetrator might call it art. But others consider it defacing the Shrine of Texas Liberty. An Illinois man suspected of defacing the Alamo was arrested Wednesday and charged with criminal mischief after authorities witnessed him writing on the historic site’s northeast wall, police said.

Stephen Henry Wise of Evanston, Ill., remained jailed on a $2,000 bond.

“Defacing the Alamo is like desecrating a grave,” said Alamo Director David Stewart.

According to a police report, the 44-year-old suspect wrote the letters “LCC” on a patch of limestone at a corner near Avenue E and Houston Street. The wall is part of the original Long Barracks constructed by missionaries in 1724, Stewart said.

The letters, scrawled with a piece of clay or pastel art pencil, were about 8 inches high, authorities said. Alamo rangers were not sure what LCC means.

Though the letters were cleaned off the stone, the suspect still faces a state jail felony charge of damaging a public monument.

“He wasn’t your typical graffiti tagger,” said Sgt. Alfredo Gonzales, an Alamo ranger.

Gonzales said the suspect, who described himself as an artist who works for a municipal government, was apologetic and cooperative when confronted by authorities about 8:45 a.m. after a witness reported seeing the man writing on the wall.

“He did say it (the graffiti) was a project, and that some professor wanted him to put those initials on some building, so he chose that wall there,” Gonzales said.

The suspect told authorities he was unaware the wall was part of the Alamo’s original structure.

Graffiti is rare for the Alamo. Most visitors are respectful, but rangers record about two incidents every month involving people simulating the infamous incident in which heavy metal rocker Ozzy Osbourne urinated on the Alamo grounds, authorities said.

“Most are just posing for photos, but we kick them off the property,” Gonzales said.

On Jan. 1, police arrested a 23-year-old man after a park ranger observed him actually urinating at the Alamo about 2:45 a.m. Because urine is corrosive to limestone, pulling an Ozzy at the Alamo also is a state jail felony.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alamo; asshat; sanantonio
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If you must play the fool, Texas is a bad choice.

Illinois, Vermont, or California are far superior choices. But, of course, you won't receive a proper education there.

1 posted on 02/19/2009 6:32:37 AM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu

That is wrong!!!! DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!


2 posted on 02/19/2009 6:33:59 AM PST by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: laotzu

I thought that was a death penalty offense in Texas.


3 posted on 02/19/2009 6:34:44 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: laotzu

I always thought Ozzie was an a-hole, but that’s the first I heard anything about him pissing at the Alamo.


4 posted on 02/19/2009 6:36:39 AM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: laotzu

5 posted on 02/19/2009 6:37:39 AM PST by stormer
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To: laotzu

Rome is covered with ugly graffitti — but the ancient and historical buildings are untouched.

Seems the current wave of barbarians in this country don’t have ANY respect for our culture.


6 posted on 02/19/2009 6:38:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: WayneS

“I thought that was a death penalty offense in Texas.”

It should be.


7 posted on 02/19/2009 6:38:50 AM PST by pelican001
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To: laotzu

LCC = 250?...........


8 posted on 02/19/2009 6:41:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Zimbabwe has removed 12 zeroes from its currency. We need to remove ONE from the White House......)
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To: Slump Tester
February 1982, Ozzy visits the Alamo, a national shrine in Texas. Drunk in his hotel room he decides to dress up as a woman and go outside to snap some pictures. During film reloading, Ozz felt the need to relieve himself. He walks over to this half knocked down wall and starts taking a leak. That piece of wall turned out to be part of the Alamo building. Ozzy was thrown in jail and banned from ever playing in San Antonio, Texas again.

A right piece of $hit, that Ozzie.

9 posted on 02/19/2009 6:41:39 AM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu

Did he write on the basement wall?


10 posted on 02/19/2009 6:43:37 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: laotzu

“Alamo rangers were not sure what LCC means. “

Loony Corrupt Commies?
Liberal Commie Cabal?
Let’s Crash Capitalism?

Or maybe it’s simply something as lame and pedestrian as his initials, or his girlfriends’.


11 posted on 02/19/2009 6:44:41 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: laotzu
Drunk in his hotel room he decides to dress up as a woman...

What man keeps women's clothing in their own size in their hotel room?

12 posted on 02/19/2009 6:45:04 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: dead

The wall he wrote on is part of the original Long Barracks constructed by missionaries in 1724.


13 posted on 02/19/2009 6:45:07 AM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu
“He did say it (the graffiti) was a project, and that some professor wanted him to put those initials on some building, so he chose that wall there,” Gonzales said.

So a professor assigns students a criminal act? This is a professor that needs to find out first hand how bad of an economy we are dealing with.

14 posted on 02/19/2009 6:45:36 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: laotzu

About 10 or 12 years ago I took my family to the Alamo. While we were in the building, going through the exhibits we noticed (along with everybody else inside) an obnoxious group loudly and boorishly laughing and yammering in boisterous voices. They were carrying open cans of beer that they were drinking as they toured the Alamo. I recognized one of them as somewhat of a celebrity — Ed McMahon from his days on The Tonight Show. Apparently Ed didn’t bother to read any of the signs at the entrance advising visitors that the Alamo is a memorial, a place of reverence for the Texas patriots who gave their lives in a fight for freedom. Or, maybe he was too drunk to comprehend the words.


15 posted on 02/19/2009 6:45:37 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Last Dakotan
What man keeps women's clothing in their own size in their hotel room?

No man does.

16 posted on 02/19/2009 6:46:25 AM PST by laotzu
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To: laotzu

“He did say it (the graffiti) was a project, and that some professor wanted him to put those initials on some building, so he chose that wall there,”

Illinois college professor? Ayers?


17 posted on 02/19/2009 6:47:05 AM PST by wolfcreek (There is no 2 party system only arrogant Pols and their handlers)
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To: Red Badger
LCC = 250?...........

No, 250 would be CCL just like Concealed Carry License.

18 posted on 02/19/2009 6:47:37 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: laotzu
I think the only thing he might have gotten away with is writing:


19 posted on 02/19/2009 6:47:53 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Last Dakotan
What man keeps women's clothing in their own size in their hotel room?

They were probably Sharon's.

20 posted on 02/19/2009 6:48:15 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember

Ed McMahon?!! I’m saddened to hear that about him.


21 posted on 02/19/2009 6:48:19 AM PST by laotzu
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To: VRWCmember

Mirror image?....Dyslexic?..........Ignorant?...............Stupid?............All of the above?................


22 posted on 02/19/2009 6:49:18 AM PST by Red Badger (Zimbabwe has removed 12 zeroes from its currency. We need to remove ONE from the White House......)
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To: laotzu; All

““He did say it (the graffiti) was a project, and that some professor wanted him to put those initials on some building”

Charge the professor too!


23 posted on 02/19/2009 6:50:09 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red Badger

Probably has some meaning to Mexicans perhaps? What is this assclowns name ?


24 posted on 02/19/2009 6:50:19 AM PST by sonic109
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To: laotzu

Yeah, I was surprised. He always seemed like such a nice guy in those Publishers Clearinghouse commercials and Medicaid supplemental insurance commercials. I was very disappointed to see him show such lack of respect and common courtesy at such a revered monument.


25 posted on 02/19/2009 6:50:22 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: ozark hilljilly

Roman numerals?
L= 50
C= 100


26 posted on 02/19/2009 6:50:46 AM PST by ozark hilljilly (I don't even think I think!)
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To: Red Badger

Lake Como Crips (LCC) - Based on the westside of Fort Wort, Texas?

http://www.insideprison.com/prison_gang_profile_CR.asp


27 posted on 02/19/2009 6:54:59 AM PST by Zalmon
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To: laotzu

Defacing any property should be dealt with legally. No one has a right to do that.

Defacing our memorials and other treasures in this country should be a much larger penalty.


28 posted on 02/19/2009 6:55:56 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter

Having lived in Texas a good part of my life, I say they should hang this scumbag.


29 posted on 02/19/2009 6:57:22 AM PST by Mouton
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Exactly! I caught that too! Professor telling the kids to put it on SOME building? As if other-than-the-alamo was ok!


30 posted on 02/19/2009 7:01:09 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: laotzu
I HAVE BEEN TO SACRED SITES ALL OVER THE WORLD,
and I can tell you that the Alamo ranks in the top 5 places I have been, because of the sacred quality of
the environment there.

The other of the top 5 in my book:

Ise Jingu ( Japan National Shinto Shrine)

Culloden Battle Field ( Scotland)

Kalapa Valley ( Nova Scotia)

Ten Ba Jingu ( Heaven Horse Temple) Japan

Little graffitto idiots who cannot see properly do things like this, and their lives are simply little smears of shite on the purity of ancestral sacrifice.Because of that, they will bring misfortune on themselves and thier families.
Liberals likely.

The Alamo is very much like a Shinto shrine dedicated to the ancestral American warriors of freedom. They are still there for thier energy of compassion does not wane. We should not forget it, and it is the most poweful shrine in the USA.Photobucket

31 posted on 02/19/2009 7:02:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Allegra; ExTexasRedhead

Texas Ping


32 posted on 02/19/2009 7:03:49 AM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: cubreporter
Defacing our memorials and other treasures in this country should be a much larger penalty

Many times in my life, I have seen the desecration of national monuments. Never...not once by a conservative; always by a liberal. (ditto for spitting on soldiers or burning our flag)

Little wonder that penalties aren't more severe. Hell, it might even qualify you for public office.

33 posted on 02/19/2009 7:04:14 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Red Badger

“LCC = 250?...........”

Since this is a 44 year old taking art classes I am going to guess that LCC stands for Log Cabin Club, a gay rights organization. His professor probably thought it would politically symbolic if he sent out all of his students to deface property in the name of gay rights.


34 posted on 02/19/2009 7:08:49 AM PST by monday
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To: Candor7
the Alamo ranks in the top 5 places

A great post. I envy your travels.

As a Texan, I have always found the Presidio La Bahia, outside Goliad, to be even more moving than the Alamo.

35 posted on 02/19/2009 7:09:35 AM PST by laotzu
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To: WayneS

I, for one, would physically stop someone if I saw him defacing the Alamo. I would bet I could find a few fellow Texans who would help...at any given time.


36 posted on 02/19/2009 7:10:16 AM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: laotzu; AuntB; BGHater; skeptoid; Yellow Rose of Texas; RushingWater; Pusterfuss; ...

Ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


37 posted on 02/19/2009 7:12:44 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Red Badger

Wouldn’t 250 be CLC?


38 posted on 02/19/2009 7:21:04 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: VRWCmember

I vote for option 2.


39 posted on 02/19/2009 7:21:51 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: VRWCmember

Ooooops.

You’re right.

I just posted that CLC was 250, but THAT would be 150, wouldn’t it?


40 posted on 02/19/2009 7:23:45 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: laotzu

Hang him.


41 posted on 02/19/2009 7:27:56 AM PST by texmexis best (uency)
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To: laotzu
Get a ROPE!
42 posted on 02/19/2009 7:30:17 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Slump Tester
Yeah, some say Ozzy went a bit more loony and more slurred speech after they bounced his head off the sidewalk a few times for his little stunt.

At first read, I thought the guy from Illinois was going to be Hussein or Ayers. Both have defaced America.

43 posted on 02/19/2009 7:31:37 AM PST by bgill
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To: laotzu


44 posted on 02/19/2009 7:36:42 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Gentlemen, please. Rest your sphincters.)
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To: VRWCmember
I encountered some loud laughing young Japanese folks the first time I visited the USS Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor, which is also of course the final resting place for 1,100 Americans.

A hallowed grave didn't seem like the right place for me to confront some giggling idiots speaking a foreign language.

45 posted on 02/19/2009 7:39:04 AM PST by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: WayneS

250 is CCL.

(From HS Latin, can’t subtract L.)


46 posted on 02/19/2009 7:39:31 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObommaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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To: laotzu

I don’t know why people do this. Its just disgusting. Last summer, we took a trip to the Great Smokey Mountains National Park. There were several preserved log cabins and churches there. They were just like the owners left them. There was a short history of each one outside the cabins. In one, they had raised 8 kids in 2 rooms. You could still smell the smoke from the fireplace. It was such an experience to just stand in these cabins where people had lived long ago. Such an awesome feeling. But the walls of these historic homes were covered in graffiti! Hidden among all the graffiti were signs that said it is a federal offense to write on the walls. What a joke! It just made me sick that people from mostly big liberal cities had came here and defaced such a rich history of these gentle good people. I wonder how they would feel if we went there and defaced their historic buildings! I bet they wouldn’t tolerate it.


47 posted on 02/19/2009 7:42:31 AM PST by beckysueb (Palin/Jindahl in 2012)
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To: Candor7

Number 1 in my book is the Punchbowl Military Cemetery overlooking Honolulu. I was there for a couple of hours and never heard anyone speak above a low whisper. Another is the cemetery at Gettysburg. I hope I get the chance to visit the 4 you mentioned some day.


48 posted on 02/19/2009 7:45:52 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: dead
can you say tortillas?

What a great movie!

49 posted on 02/19/2009 7:49:18 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Candor7; Travis McGee; Cleburne; Squantos

Amen on Culloden...the humps everywere I remember. Cumberland wouldn’t let them be buried proper, either heaps or just left where they fell.

Not to mention the slaughter and rape that followed for days after that.

The veranda at Carnton House here in Franklin is a soft spot for we Southerners. My kids are quite familiar with it.

I think the cemetaries at Normandy are pretty sentimental too and caused me a tear up.

and oddly enough, I have been to the battlefield at Boyaca and even though the end results have been left wanting, what Bolivar accomplished against Spain from Caracas to Peru in some serious terrain is remarkable...truly.

never been to Rourke’s Drift...

God bless Texas btw


50 posted on 02/19/2009 7:52:54 AM PST by wardaddy (next conservative gets elected POTUS, I'm getting a silly T-shirt like the blacks are wearing too)
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