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Gold fever sweeps suburbia
LA Times ^ | Feb 21st, '09 | Tiffany Hsu with Tom Petruno

Posted on 02/21/2009 2:47:20 AM PST by blueplum

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To: Kozak

Gold for bread. So what is more valuable? The gold or the bread?


61 posted on 02/21/2009 12:29:45 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

The correct answer is neither.


62 posted on 02/21/2009 2:36:32 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: Kozak

I really know of no one in our family that turned in gold in the 30’s. They simply kept it at home. Some turned it in because paper currency was very dear during the depression and many needed the currency to purchase the necessities. In the coming inflation this will not be the case. Currency will be come almost worthless and no one will turn the valuable gold in to the government.


63 posted on 02/21/2009 2:52:31 PM PST by brydic1
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To: blam
I'm betting on coffee, chocolate, sugar and old US silver coins.

Those too.

64 posted on 02/21/2009 3:14:18 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: glorgau

It was confiscated by the government.


What was the compliance level like?


65 posted on 02/22/2009 7:29:35 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Travis McGee
Years ago, I was speaking with an old timer vagabond prospecter about Roosevelt's requirement to turn in all gold. I asked him, " did anyone just melt down their coins and claim it was newly mined gold?".

He replied, "by 1933, it was hard to find a silver coin, left alone any gold coins in private hands, everyone was broke".

66 posted on 02/22/2009 7:37:19 AM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: reformedliberal

We think people will want gold melted down and tested or alloyed for karat.


I think you are wrong. People will want metal in the form of difficult-to-counterfeit coins that are familiar to them.


67 posted on 02/22/2009 7:44:07 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Kozak

Never a time in history that women didn’t like pretty pretty shiny things.


...nor that men didn’t like pretty pretty women.

Gold is fundamentally a way of turning a man’s labor into sex. Now THAT’s alchemy!


68 posted on 02/22/2009 7:47:44 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Shooter 2.5

Gold for bread. So what is more valuable? The gold or the bread?


If I am a baker with 100 loaves that will mold before I could possibly eat them, then the gold is far more valuable.


69 posted on 02/22/2009 7:48:43 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: brydic1

I really know of no one in our family that turned in gold in the 30’s.


And during the decades that gold was illegal, my understanding is that there were no arrests for non-compliance, all compliance was voluntary, and there was one conviction on a technical matter.


70 posted on 02/22/2009 7:50:15 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: OBXWanderer
"Sounds more like a travelling PAWN SHOP."

Actually, you can get a better deal buying gold jewelry at a pawn shop these days.

sw

71 posted on 02/22/2009 7:52:33 AM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: Beelzebubba

If you mean gold coins, hardly anyone is familiar with them. How do you make change?

If you mean silver, how do you prove the silver content? Fine? Sterling? Coin? Mexican? I have seen scam jewelers who do a nitric test in front of the customer and then tell them that the result indicates sterling, when it indicates nickle. The customer is bamboozled. How many Americans know the difference between a real silver US coin and recent ones with less to no silver?

I wonder if we will all posses gold testing kits and scales with dwt weights? If you go to a jeweler’s studio, he will have both and the stamps for all gold karats and silver content.

I look at my Walking Liberty $5 gold pieces, for example, as 10th of an oz, or, at today’s prices $100. Yet, they are stamped $5.

My scenario presupposes local currencies independent of the US government money of recent vintage. But, anything can be counterfeited, that is always a risk. So, maybe there is opportunity in selling test kits and scales and perhaps holding workshops to teach folks how to use them and how to interpret the tests.

Or maybe the entire gold/silver/platinum idea is a non-starter. Probably better to trade ammo.


72 posted on 02/22/2009 8:56:29 AM PST by reformedliberal (N0)
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To: Kozak

Great post at 47.


73 posted on 02/22/2009 2:50:08 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dennisw

I agree 100% with 48, especially about dust settling. The exception is to use gold during SHTF to pay for an escape to save your life and your family’s lives. In that case, gold is the ultimate ticket to ride.

Did you see the superb Bosnia civil war flick, “Saviour?” What paid for Dennis Quaid’s final bus trip to safety?


74 posted on 02/22/2009 2:52:12 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: brydic1

“Those who believe that paper currency has real value should consider giving a ring made of paper currency to their gal friend rather than a ring of gold and watch their reaction.”

Great image!


75 posted on 02/22/2009 2:54:03 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reformedliberal

It’s much easier to detect a fake gold coin than a fake $100 bill. You can simply weigh it.

When we are at the point of using PMs to buy food, then counterfeiting will be treated like cheating at cards and horst stealing in the old west. It will get you shot, so it will not be commonly done. A business which runs a fraud buying or selling fake coins is going to be lynched the same day. Through history, this has tended to keep people honest in very hard times.


76 posted on 02/22/2009 2:58:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reformedliberal
But, anything can be counterfeited, that is always a risk.

Gold CANNOT be counterfeited, which is one of the top reasons it has always been a store of wealth. Nobody bothers to spend over 100K dollars to mint and gold plate fake Krugerrands, when simply putting the fake on a simple postage scale will reveal that it is base metal.

77 posted on 02/22/2009 3:01:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
I know everyone has got their eyes on gold, but we've been putting 1 oz rounds of silver back for years as well as as many pre-1964 coins as we can find.

For a couple years close relatives who worked with cash and coin were watching for them and pulling them out. Hard to believe, but people are still spending silver dimes and quarters!

The net result is that we've got a few POUNDS of the stuff locked up in our safe. We've also got as much cash (several hundred) dollars in there, too in anticipation of 'banking holidays'.

Of course we've also got other precious metals (lead, brass, and copper) in usable forms by the thousand lot.

Believe it or not now we're concentrating on what I think in the short term will be the most valuable form of currency.

The calorie.

L

78 posted on 02/22/2009 3:06:22 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

I have silver rounds 10-1 over AU. I also get a roll of nickels every time I go to the bank. It’s still 1963 for nickel! In a year or two when they replace nickel nickels with some base metal, you will wonder why you didn’t load up.

I recall the story of a German minister who tossed all of the collection plate copper pfennigs (sp?) into an unused bathtub for decades. He was able to feed himself through the Weimar hyperinflation with those pennies, because a copper penny was still a store of value.

When countries switch to “New Pesos” or “New Dollars” with zeros whacked off, they usually leave the metal change unchanged.

Forty genuine nickel nickels may still buy a loaf of bread when a billion dollar bill will not. SInce banks will (today) hand you all you want, why not stock up?


79 posted on 02/22/2009 3:12:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Forty genuine nickel nickels may still buy a loaf of bread when a billion dollar bill will not.

Well since we have 200 pounds of flour, 5 pounds of yeast, and a gallon of sourdough starter we're gonna end up with a sh**load of nickels!

Pennies are a good idea, but make sure you get old ones. The new ones are only copper plated zinc.

L

80 posted on 02/22/2009 3:23:20 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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