Posted on 02/21/2009 6:56:52 AM PST by Flavius
The best counter sniper system is another sniper. However, a number of sensor systems can be and are providing useful tools in dectecting, locating, and bringing effective fires on snipers.
Some of these technologies seemed hairbrained at first. Some of them proved to be just that. But, others have met the test of both time and combat. The jury is still out on this device. The Army's Rapid Equipping Force conducts in theater operational assessments on technologies like these. Some of them end up in the scrap heap, but others get adopted and deserve to be. I'm sure you haven't seen the data on this, but if you did you might change your mind. Acoustic sensors have come a long way in the last four years.
Are you just stupid? I'd GLADLY trade an extra carried MRE for this thing to be able to pinpoint the badguy sniper throwing lead my way.
“Thanks, if you have HBO, you might want to tune in to Taking Chance.”
I’ll catch it when the video reaches the library, but I do keep up with the reviews and it sounds very good.
Shows a great need for industrial design. Butt ugly.
If it works does it matter
“I’m sure you haven’t seen the data on this, but if you did you might change your mind”
And you would be wrong. I have seen the acustics data of such devices. Signals processing is a thing I am an expert. I know the issues and these devices have issues. Alert, well trained troops far beat having yet another device they are told to rely on but will fail them.
The counter sniper devices that do work are the MMW systems. Those devices work because they detect the round from nearly the barrel to the target. They can not only trace where the round came from but its type as well.
” found to work in Afghanistan.”
I can make a ham sandwich seem to work, too. Data lies. Just because it worked to some degree does not mean the troops found it useful. Tried and true beats nifty and neat every time. Working in the engineering sector I’ve seen more crap thrown at the troops as the next greatest thing so some defense contractor whose paid off a Senator can make a few bucks when all the troops really want are basic things that work well.
“And you would be wrong. I have seen the acustics data of such devices. Signals processing is a thing I am an expert.”
What is the truth about this specific 12oz.to 15oz. device, that this war time army is concealing by issuing it as ready for field use?
Google the term "soldiers carry weight", then tell me that I'm stupid.
The results of the search will help to explain the weight aspect of my questioning of this new technologie's efficacy.
There are many, many tools, gadgets, etc that soldiers could carry that would protect them, but you'd need to be superman to carry them all.
“Just because it worked to some degree does not mean the troops found it useful.”
You sure are kind of vague, most of your protest seemed to be about politics and then money and then, that as a veteran, (sniper I guess)since you made a big deal about whether I was or not, that if we aren’t veterans we can’t know anything about this kind off thing, now you seem to be saying that although it worked some, the troops didn’t find it useful.
You keep telling us that you are an engineer and an expert but you don’t seem to know any details about this specific system that has hit the field, and then you go back to politics.
Just give us some facts about this specific unit.
“Google the term “soldiers carry weight”, then tell me that I’m stupid.
The results of the search will help to explain the weight aspect of my questioning of this new technologie’s efficacy.”
My LRRP unit used to average about 130 lbs per pack and I’m sure everyone was disheartened to learn that in Desert Storm, Bravo 2 zeros LRRP mission packs started at 2009 lbs at the beginning of the mission (before caching).
What do you think that this anti sniper unit weighs (12 to 15ozs?) and it will primarily be worn in an urban environment which means patrols with lighter gear, vehicles, and garrisons close by.
OK, maybe not 2009lbs, but 209lbs.
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