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Missing Florida Girl's Family: Pedophile Cousin Took Haleigh Cummings
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Posted on 02/21/2009 7:23:34 PM PST by kcvl

"What we've been told is that he's a sexual pedophile," said Haleigh's mother Crystal Sheffield. The child's grandmother, Teresa Neves, said Croslin described him as a "jerk" and she was worried.

"I couldn't tell you anything about him," a distraught Neves told reporters Friday, adding that she only knew of the cousin by his first name Joe. "I can't tell you how they could have taken her from a family that absolutely adores her."

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KEYWORDS: croslin; haleigh; missing; molestation; molester; pedophile; sexualabuse
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Geraldo has backed the father in a corner tonight on his show. According to the child's mother the father is a druggie and has hit the little girl before.
1 posted on 02/21/2009 7:23:34 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
Geraldo is asking for another broken nose.

Why can't I get that banjo tune from Deliverance out of my head?

2 posted on 02/21/2009 7:28:10 PM PST by spectre (sw )(Congress lied...the economy died)
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To: kcvl

I have believed since the beginning that this would go back to the family. It started with the story that someone took the child from the same bed the girlfriend claimed to be sleeping in.


3 posted on 02/21/2009 7:28:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek

The father has another child (daughter) by another 17 year old girl friend (not the one he is shacking up with now).


4 posted on 02/21/2009 7:31:28 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I have learned to reserve judgment in cases like this. When that little girl, Danielle Van Dam disappeared and it came to light that her parents were swingers, I thought that there was too much attention on the neighbor. It was found out that the the night the girl disappeared, the parents had swingers at the house for an after bar party.

I am reserving judgment. The neighbor received the death penalty.


5 posted on 02/21/2009 7:31:28 PM PST by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't 't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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To: kcvl

Then both the father and the cousin must be slaughtered. If I hear of something like this happening where I live, they better hope the cops catch them first.


6 posted on 02/21/2009 7:32:10 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: kcvl

Oh boy, we’ve got a real family of winners here.

The nogoodnik father’s nogoodnik girlfriend’s nogoodnik cousin is a prime “person of interest?”

Were the girl’s GRANDPARENTS even married to each other, let alone her parents?

It’s in chaotic, messed-up “families” like this where little children are most easily taken advantage of.

But I think we all knew that already.


7 posted on 02/21/2009 7:32:58 PM PST by sinanju
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To: kcvl

I am leaning toward the dad too....


8 posted on 02/21/2009 7:33:34 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Taxpayers doing time on the Obama Plantation.)
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To: spectre

Family members told Channel 4 that a relative named Joe visited the Cummings’ home and left hours before Haleigh disappeared.

Friday morning, Croslin told Matt Lauer on the “Today Show” that she doesn’t trust that cousin and doesn’t know if he’s involved in Haleigh’s disappearance.

“He’s a criminal, pretty much,” Croslin said. “He’s been in trouble his whole life.”

Earlier in the day, Cummings’ girlfriend, Misty Croslin, was taken to the sheriff’s office once again for more questioning. Detectives have remained tight-lipped about what was discussed with the 17-year-old.

“I hope she’s telling the truth … because my kids they love her. I hope she wouldn’t do nothing to hurt them,” Sheffield said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29303085/


9 posted on 02/21/2009 7:35:39 PM PST by kcvl
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To: tomnbeverly

“One family member said a fight had taken place between Ron, the biological father, and Joe, the cousin, where Ron says, ‘No, that didn’t take place,’” Van Zandt said. “Evidently a gun disappeared from the house and it was found in a ditch later.”

Van Zandt said, typically, investigators try to rule out immediate family as suspects first before branching outside of the home. But he said, in this case, it appears that authorities are looking at both at the same time.


10 posted on 02/21/2009 7:38:27 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Lord God, please rescue this precious child.


11 posted on 02/21/2009 7:38:35 PM PST by Faith
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To: kcvl
I hope all the people in the US and the UK who defended Madeleine McCann’s parents read about this story. In both cases, the probablity that a stranger abducted the missing little girl is almost zero, yet the McCanns staunchly because they were middle class doctors.
12 posted on 02/21/2009 7:41:17 PM PST by utahagen
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To: kcvl

Many fathers have hit their girls before. It’s (most of the time) called discipline.


13 posted on 02/21/2009 7:41:25 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: utahagen

Still can’t figure out how they left that child alone to go to dinner...bizzare.


14 posted on 02/21/2009 7:43:08 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (" IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT !" ( just getting a head start..hee.))
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To: sinanju
An 11 year old just killed his dad's live-in whore girlfriend. Not justifying the kid and he must be punished, but the breakdown of the American family is what's causing these acts of juvenile crime.
15 posted on 02/21/2009 7:43:21 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: WheresMyBailout
Many fathers have hit their girls before. It’s (most of the time) called discipline.

How many fathers do you know who have given their girls a black eye?!

16 posted on 02/21/2009 7:45:39 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

None, but I do know of fathers that spank their young daughters.


17 posted on 02/21/2009 7:47:34 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: WheresMyBailout

So do I.

I don’t call giving a daughter a black eye ‘discipline’.


18 posted on 02/21/2009 7:49:16 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I watched video of the Dad online. He had what looked like a bandaid on the left side at the bottom of his hairline on the back of his head/neck. I wondered if he’d been in a fight. It was odd.


19 posted on 02/21/2009 7:49:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: kcvl

Have worked on to many cases of child abuse and family murder with the County Attys.
People don’t know the half of it when it comes to what
is done to the children


20 posted on 02/21/2009 7:49:57 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin - Jindal 2012)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I saw that too. There is a lot that we probably haven't heard about this ‘family’.

For one thing, could the father be charged with statutory rape for shacking up with that 17 year old?

21 posted on 02/21/2009 7:51:38 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

If that’s the case (I’ve not kept up with this case) and it can be proven that this is the case (not some unverified accusation), then I think the father should first be investigated for involvement in this disappearance and then if possible be punished for giving his daughter a black eye.


22 posted on 02/21/2009 7:51:46 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: kcvl

The age of consent is 18 in Florida?????


23 posted on 02/21/2009 7:53:13 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: WheresMyBailout

Since the daughter is missing (and possibly dead) I doubt the father will be investigated for the child’s possible black eye.


24 posted on 02/21/2009 7:54:18 PM PST by kcvl
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To: WheresMyBailout

I don’t know. That’s why I asked.


25 posted on 02/21/2009 7:55:09 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

Well I did see Tanyaiqua walking down the street after
LeeRoytrell had whooped his little girl for smoking
the last of the rock... her eye was black


26 posted on 02/21/2009 7:55:14 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (o)..Jr. Senator .. add fertilizer up sprouts a ..Jr. President..(o)
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To: kcvl

I just did a quick Google. I think that is the age of consent, but there are some exceptions depending on the age of the partner.


27 posted on 02/21/2009 7:56:32 PM PST by WheresMyBailout
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
The McCanns and all their friends left their kids alone every night of their vacation, but that fact is actually a red herring. Having read everything about the case that has been published in English — some documents are in Portuguese and have not been translated — I believe Madeleine died in some kind of accident and her parents disposed of her body in a panic. The abduction story was a hoax.
28 posted on 02/21/2009 7:58:21 PM PST by utahagen
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To: kcvl
I'm glad that I'm not the only one that saw it. It was an odd place for a bandaid.

He may be 24 chronologically but he's probably not any "older" than the GF. I doubt they'll charge him but they should. And she isn't old enough or mature enough to care for 2 kids full time.

29 posted on 02/21/2009 7:59:41 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: spectre

“Paddle faster, I hear banjo music!” is a popular t-shirt down here.


30 posted on 02/21/2009 8:01:33 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: WheresMyBailout
Age of consent Florida

The age of consent in Florida is 18, but close in age exemptions exist

31 posted on 02/21/2009 8:01:41 PM PST by ThreePuttinDude (o)..Jr. Senator .. add fertilizer up sprouts a ..Jr. President..(o)
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To: sinanju

From what I can see, NOBODY in either extended family has an IQ over 80.


32 posted on 02/21/2009 8:02:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Soothesayer

You said — “Then both the father and the cousin must be slaughtered. If I hear of something like this happening where I live, they better hope the cops catch them first.”

That’s why we have a system that people go through, prescribed by our Constitution, in which details are dispassionately examined and the real facts are developed. That’s why we have trials, to protect all parties involved. It would do no good to get the wrong guy and leave the real perpetrator out there, ready to do something like that again.

I remember seeing a tombstone in Tombstone, Arizona, on Boot Hill — which said “Hanged by mistake”... It turned out that a mob chased a guy down and hung him, however, they later found out that they had the wrong guy... ooops...

So, that’s the reason why we have the system that we do...


33 posted on 02/21/2009 8:04:33 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: kcvl

I think I heard something about the family being investigated by Social Services before. No reason why, though.


34 posted on 02/21/2009 8:05:11 PM PST by nobama08
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To: Star Traveler

You’re quite right but where emotion is involved, common sense is not. And these threads are always emotional.


35 posted on 02/21/2009 8:06:44 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: WheresMyBailout

Well, supposedly the kid did it. It’s not really known for sure. It’s like some defense attorneys say — if you’re sitting in the defense side of the table, you must be guilty or you wouldn’t be there in the first place... LOL...


36 posted on 02/21/2009 8:07:39 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: WheresMyBailout

“Many fathers have hit their girls before. It’s (most of the time) called discipline.”


I’m not digging you on this thread but you have a very good home page and make many, very smart observations on it.

Sometime you should do a vanity post on the general/chat forum and let us discuss your presidential breakdowns, it is darn good, but not perfect. I think that it would be a great thread.


37 posted on 02/21/2009 8:08:42 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You said — “You’re quite right but where emotion is involved, common sense is not. And these threads are always emotional.”

It’s sort of disturbing to me that FReepers would be so eager and quick to abandon the very system that the Constitution gives us, along with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law (and in many cases, by a jury of one’s peers).

It’s like many are saying — “I’m 100% for the Constitution and all our founding fathers gave us, until I get mad about something...” LOL...

Then *everything* gets thrown “out the window”...


38 posted on 02/21/2009 8:11:36 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: DJ MacWoW

Did you hear what he said to the shack up girlfriend when she was trying to call 911?

CUMMINGS: How the F*** (DELETED) can you let my daughter get stole B**** (DELETED)!


39 posted on 02/21/2009 8:12:30 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Star Traveler

Of course it’s usually better to let the courts determine guilt or innocence. However, we may soon reach the point where the courts will be too corrupt or inept to do this. Then we will have to do our own detective work...and the rest.


40 posted on 02/21/2009 8:12:52 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Star Traveler
It’s sort of disturbing to me that FReepers would be so eager and quick to abandon the very system that the Constitution gives us, along with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law (and in many cases, by a jury of one’s peers).

We are not a court of law and not bound by that principle.

41 posted on 02/21/2009 8:13:22 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: Star Traveler

I agree. Sometimes I try to reason and use common sense on these threads but....And I understand how they feel, you want to weep for that lost baby. But we are either a Nation of laws or we aren’t.


42 posted on 02/21/2009 8:13:48 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: kcvl

No. I missed that. I don’t have TV and only watch what’s online. Yikes! But he left his kids with her.


43 posted on 02/21/2009 8:15:17 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Star Traveler

If society really had to follow the ‘presumption of innocence’ we would never arrest anyone!


44 posted on 02/21/2009 8:15:36 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater
We are not a court of law and not bound by that principle.

Exactly!

45 posted on 02/21/2009 8:16:56 PM PST by kcvl
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To: ColdWater

You said — “If society really had to follow the ‘presumption of innocence’ we would never arrest anyone!”

That’s not true, because we arrest people on probable cause and evidence that the prosecuting attorney believes can get a conviction “beyond a reasonable doubt” with a jury of one’s peers.

I’m surprised you don’t know that.

All the while, during the time that one is at trial and before a judgement is delivered, one *is presumed* innocent under the law. That’s our system. AND, furthermore, many are declared “Not Guilty” too. So, there you go...


46 posted on 02/21/2009 8:18:58 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: cripplecreek

When I heard those two on Greta’s show, I got the creeps. The girl seems to be under the control of this guy, she seemed afraid to speak, but my spirit was really troubled. I feel they know a lot more than they’ve said, and maybe they’re the ones who killed her somehow. I hope they find out the truth soon.


47 posted on 02/21/2009 8:23:26 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Soothesayer

You said — “Of course it’s usually better to let the courts determine guilt or innocence. However, we may soon reach the point where the courts will be too corrupt or inept to do this. Then we will have to do our own detective work...and the rest.”

That day will never come, as long as we have any kind of government at all. And if we don’t have a government, then we simply have mob rule and anarchy and then it really doesn’t matter, because at that point, whoever has the biggest guns will get the “rule of law” (that he sets up himself).

You better hope that the day never comes when we no longer have a functioning government, because mob rule is never just, never gets to the real issues and is more concerned with power and keeping control rather than justice. Under that kind of “rule” (anarchy, mob justice and rule) I can see much more child molestation than what we have at the present, and that kind of “anarchy” will protect the perpetrators of this kind of child molestation, because the ones who have the power and control will usually be the ones to commit the most horrendous crimes under anarchy...

You don’t want to look forward to that kind of “day”...


48 posted on 02/21/2009 8:24:05 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
I’m surprised you don’t know that.

All the while, during the time that one is at trial and before a judgement is delivered, one *is presumed* innocent under the law. That’s our system. AND, furthermore, many are declared “Not Guilty” too. So, there you go...

I know that. I am not surprised that you would post falsely about me, though. AND

"presumed innocent" ONLY in the court of law.

Why do you not know that?

49 posted on 02/21/2009 8:27:32 PM PST by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

You said — “We are not a court of law and not bound by that principle.”

The law does not prescribe the types of opinions that you must have and in that way, you’re free to those. But, when your own opinions go against the very kind of government that many here whole-heartedly approve of (from our founding fathers and our system of justice) — then one has to question whether you really do adhere to those founding fathers’ principles or not. At the least, it’s hypocritical, saying that I give “lip service” to the principles laid down by the founding fathers for this country — but — I really don’t believe them or practice them myself... LOL..

However, with that being said — one *is bound* — by law — to adhere to the legal methods for addressing situations like this, which *does* happen to be by those founding principles — *no matter* — what your opinion is...


50 posted on 02/21/2009 8:27:32 PM PST by Star Traveler
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