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Glenn Beck's 'War Room' - Worst-Case Scenario No. 2
FoxNews.com ^ | February 20, 2009 | Glenn Beck

Posted on 02/22/2009 5:11:39 AM PST by Perseverando

This is a 6 minute 53 second video with a transcript.

Title: Worst-Case Scenario No. 2

Published: Fri, 20 Feb 2009

Description: Beck's 'War Room' experts imagine what would happen if the U.S. no longer played world policeman

Automatically Generated Transcript (may not be 100% accurate)

" The situation anywhere. This is the war that possibly is coming to our shore as the war room we are war gaming different scenarios we are not predicting that these things will happen where. Asking. -- day happened what do we do if they happen. Here's our second scenario global civil unrest. Now the United States is no longer the world's policeman Mexico has been taken over by narco gains oil and gas pipelines have been targeted and destroyed. Tourism nonexistent due to safety concerns Ukraine is the first European system. -- country to -- eastern European. Ireland is the first western country to fail. Fifty million people worldwide are unemployed there are riots in the streets joining me now from Berkeley California is former CIA operative Bob -- What the scariest dudes I know and in Chicago is department of homeland security's red cell unit brad Thor also author of many best sellers. -- There's breaking news it just came over the wire just the last couple of minutes I believe you have that update."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: beck; economy; glennbeck

1 posted on 02/22/2009 5:11:39 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

I really like Glenn Beck, but I can’t listen to him because he’s so apocalyptic - the end of the world is always just next week.


2 posted on 02/22/2009 5:13:27 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: Perseverando
Sorry, this is acutally #2

Glenn Beck's 'War Room' - Worst-Case Scenario No. 2

3 posted on 02/22/2009 5:13:35 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Hardastarboard

That is true.

I felt the very same way when he was talking about what is happening now, over a year before it happened.

So I pretty much take what he says very seriously.


4 posted on 02/22/2009 5:17:50 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Just another day for you and me in Obama paradise...)
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To: Perseverando

I’m actively converting my assets into gold. Any thoughts anyone.


5 posted on 02/22/2009 5:20:25 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: ontap

good idea, unless the government does to you what it did to all Americans in 1933, and takes it from you, via executive order.


6 posted on 02/22/2009 5:27:09 AM PST by Clarence (back to lurking now...)
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To: Hardastarboard
I really like Glenn Beck, but I can’t listen to him because he’s so apocalyptic - the end of the world is always just next week.

Try #3 And just a quick fyi, the projected date was 2014.

I caught that one live on Friday. CSM Tim Strong (ret) and Mike Scheuer (CIA, Bin Laden Unit) just about spilled the beans towards the last part of the interview. Actually, they did.

He was talking about the guy that defended himself against the criminal illegal alien border and immigration law felons that got sued by, get this, illegal aliens. So the subject is what happens when u.S. citizens protect their property and lives against those very same criminal illegal alien border and immigration law felons? What are the resulting second and third level effects?

When Glen asked the question about the effects of citizens refusing to allow a federal force, (ATF, etc) to unconstitutionally arrest citizens defending themselves against illegals and invaders the answer got very interesting. That secondary effect being once a few people are arrested in a general effort against “orderly citizens” (because basically they are easy to arrest) the second and third level effect would be a general armed response against the federals.

Then Glen asked “the question.”

“Will the military start rounding up Americans or do they fight with Americans (against an out of control government)." Both Tim Strong and Mike Scheuer went silent.

That silence was deafening in what it meant. Then once they gathered themselves both stated that as a general rule the military would not fight Americans.

What they did not say was that there would be no fighting.

An armed conflict so American citizens can retain their rights is exactly what they both expect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcSWaTxknLE&feature=related

7 posted on 02/22/2009 5:29:30 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Perseverando

I saw the whole war room last night, and the part that got me was Glenn asking about how to stop the revolution hat may come. The guest (a mil guy said that it shouldn’t be stopped.

Heavy stuff.


8 posted on 02/22/2009 5:29:33 AM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: ontap

guns and food cant hurt.


9 posted on 02/22/2009 5:30:01 AM PST by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: ontap

Old silver coinage(pre-1965 dimes, quarters, halves) would be easier to barter with than gold.

It’s already denominated, easy to store, easy to carry, and is always welcome.

When paper becomes worthless, silver coins rule.


10 posted on 02/22/2009 5:30:02 AM PST by exit82 (The Obama Cabinet: There was more brainpower on Gilligan's Island.)
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To: Perseverando; All

OMNI magazine once had an issue where a think tank predicted the future.

I don’t know if OMNI Magazine is available in archive online.

it had many of these types of scenarios.


11 posted on 02/22/2009 5:32:43 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Perseverando

Scary stuff...what is particularly worrisome is that much of what they are talking about is already happening. I am not sure that I believe the one analyst who predicts a higher risk of major war because Netanyahou is Prime Minister. Indeed, I think Isreal now has a chance of surviving, where they had a lower chance with “liberal” government. Many people do not seem to understand that no matter what concessions Isreal makes, no matter how far they go to making “peace” that there will be no peace for them. These muslim countries are intent on the destruction of Isreal. Why our democrat party ignores that is beyond me. And, why Jews in the US support the democrat party is one of the sickest alliances in history. I suppose there were some Jews who supported the Nazi’s but not the overwhelming numbers that support the democrats here in this time, but the risk to their existance is about the same.


12 posted on 02/22/2009 5:44:13 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Wpin
Many people do not seem to understand that no matter what concessions Isreal makes, no matter how far they go to making “peace” that there will be no peace for them. These muslim countries are intent on the destruction of Isreal. Why our democrat party ignores that is beyond me.

I think it is pretty simple, really. The left operates on the principle that all activity is economically driven, and that the only reasons for antipathy between the Israelies and the “Palestinians” is that the “Palestinians” have been economically downtrodden. Therefore, all that has to be done is to throw money at the “Palestinians” and they will be happy.

This is a stupid and irrational basis for human action, but it is what the left takes as its basic assumption. They pretty much ignore religion as a motivator, except to denigrate it as only for stupid, ignorant, and irrelevant people.

13 posted on 02/22/2009 6:22:56 AM PST by marktwain
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To: exit82

I think that you are right silver will be king, because it will be easier to trade for a loaf of bread or ammo.


14 posted on 02/22/2009 6:23:42 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("Only Property Owners that pay taxes should have the right to Vote")
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To: 2001convSVT

Instead of gold, I buy simple items each payday. A duel fuel burner, a lantern, spam, rice, beans, tobacco plug, etc. Come Monday, all of my mutual funds are being switched over to money market. Oh, adding a .22 LR rifle to the mix today. I am an active duty officer (about to put on O-5) and I can tell you, I will never fire on an American while wearing a uniform, or order someone to do so.


15 posted on 02/22/2009 6:34:25 AM PST by ThunderStruck94
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To: ontap; exit82; Clarence; xmission

>>”When paper becomes worthless, silver coins rule.”<<

exit82, xmission and Clarence are right. It is not a good time to be buying gold.

I laugh every time I see the commercials on TV telling us that “experts predict that gold will go to $1500-$2000 an ounce.” “Buy now before it’s too late.” blah, blah....

Ask yourself if it’s going to go that high, why are they selling now? Shouldn’t they be buying? Millions of dollars spent in advertising while they should be listening to their own “experts” and sit on their gold until it does what they predict.

IMO, it is a good time to be selling your gold and converting it into something more fluid like silver coins, guns, ammo, food, gardening equipment, paying off debts etc.


16 posted on 02/22/2009 6:46:59 AM PST by panaxanax (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't.)
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To: ThunderStruck94
>>”...I will never fire on an American while wearing a uniform, or order someone to do so.”<<

That's good, but what if your warrant fictitiously states that you are out to capture a baby-raping psychotic cop-killing terrorist that just killed and ate his grandmother?

How do you know if the charges are true or if they're just trumped up by your superiors?

17 posted on 02/22/2009 6:56:47 AM PST by panaxanax (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those that don't.)
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To: TLI
Both Tim Strong and Mike Scheuer went silent. That silence was deafening in what it meant.

Yes, I saw that exchange, live. It was chilling indeed.

18 posted on 02/22/2009 7:03:49 AM PST by Salvey
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To: Perseverando

Thanks!


19 posted on 02/22/2009 7:04:14 AM PST by Sister_T (The Obama Administration = EPIC FAIL!)
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To: TLI
"...as a general rule the military would not fight Americans."

The military takes an oath and most in the military take the oath seriously. At what point would someone be considered a domestic enemy first and an American second or no longer an American in good standing, but an American traitor?

I think this program will be rebroadcast today and I need to tape it.

20 posted on 02/22/2009 7:21:17 AM PST by GBA
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To: panaxanax
How do you know if the charges are true or if they're just trumped up by your superiors?

I guess I will have to rely on my education (USNA ‘94, flight school, etc.) and my intelligence (see education). Anyway, the military is being dumbed down right now. Trying to put as many unqualified people and immigrants in the ranks as we can to glorify “diversity”. I doubt they will need me to bring the prolies in line.

21 posted on 02/22/2009 7:36:33 AM PST by ThunderStruck94
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To: Perseverando

bfl


22 posted on 02/22/2009 7:51:23 AM PST by blam
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To: TLI
"An armed conflict so American citizens can retain their rights is exactly what they both expect. "

Did you hear it said on the show that there are some who think the dire conclusions of that program were too optimistic?

23 posted on 02/22/2009 8:14:53 AM PST by blam
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To: GBA
You probably want to keep the show on tape but you can see all three scenarios at this link.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=glen+beck+02-20-09&aq=f

The part (in #3) from 3:10 to 4:10 will absolutely boil your blood, but it is also absolutely correct. The Feds and ATF will arrest American Citizens for defending their rights and property for no other reason than they are easy to arrest and they are "not in compliance" with a POLICY of the then current administration.

The 2014 date is the middle of a second term Øbama administration. If Øbama makes a second term, what might one think his "policies" will be towards American Citizens defending themselves from "Citizens of the World" pouring over our borders?

24 posted on 02/22/2009 8:15:25 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: blam
Did you hear it said on the show that there are some who think the dire conclusions of that program were too optimistic?

Yea, I caught that too. "Lite" scenarios was what Glen reported he was told about the predictions.

25 posted on 02/22/2009 8:21:57 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: ThunderStruck94
I think Waco pretty much proved how the military would react in such situations.

I have 13 years active and 20 plus reserves, and I still don't know how this scenario would play out. But I do know that I met more than a few that would obey such orders to further their career.

The rest will follow if it's not their decision.
26 posted on 02/22/2009 8:30:24 AM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: struwwelpeter

Consider also the Twenty-Nine Palms study of the Marines.


27 posted on 02/22/2009 8:34:55 AM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Perseverando

28 posted on 02/22/2009 8:41:46 AM PST by blam
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To: Perseverando

Beck called the economic collapse years ago.


29 posted on 02/22/2009 8:44:29 AM PST by mysterio
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To: blam
Soros Sees No Bottom For World Financial "Collapse"

Sat Feb 21, 2009 4:19pm EST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Renowned investor George Soros said on Friday the world financial system has effectively disintegrated, adding that there is yet no prospect of a near-term resolution to the crisis.

Soros said the turbulence is actually more severe than during the Great Depression, comparing the current situation to the demise of the Soviet Union.

He said the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers in September marked a turning point in the functioning of the market system.

"We witnessed the collapse of the financial system," Soros said at a Columbia University dinner. "It was placed on life support, and it's still on life support. There's no sign that we are anywhere near a bottom."

[snip]

30 posted on 02/22/2009 8:46:51 AM PST by blam
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To: TLI
I think 2014 is a generously delayed prediction.

IMHO it appears to be unraveling quicker than that.

Have said it before...
The bad news with all of these bailouts is that they will serve to make the collapse more severe and more difficult to recover form.
The good news with all of these bailouts is that they delay the collapse, giving us time to see what is coming and buy us time to prepare our families.

I pray that we have time to prepare the pantry and a garden.

A few random thoughts I've had and have heard from others...
One one hand...it makes sense to prepare
On the other hand...to those who are oblivious to potential future collapse, we look like Y2K kooks.

On one hand...I want to warn more people to prepare.
On the other hand...I don't want to disclose too many preparation details for fear that 40 friends will show up at my house for food if the collapse comes. Yet would be in a moral life-boat conundrum (quagmire alert!) should that happen.

On one hand...silver and gold makes so much sense to survive with some assets.
On the other hand...it seems like a such a “survivalist” notion.

On one hand...I wan to discuss this with friends as I read articles DAILY that seem to substantiate serious concerns for the collapse of our nation.
On the other hand...only a very few (handful) of friends/family think it will get bad. They have the “everything will work out as it always has” mentality. On top of that, those who are in financial difficulty (laid off, mounting bills, high debt, upside down in their homes) complain that I am “talking down the economy and part of the consumer confidence problem” (lol)...or, worse yet, dismiss me as a paranoid conspiracy monger. This is VERY frustrating and severely limits the ability to have a meaningful and sober discussion.

Yes. I do have 8 hands!
Mr. Octopus

31 posted on 02/22/2009 8:56:02 AM PST by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: ontap

Buy numismatic coins, not bullion, if you’re worried about confiscation. The government didn’t confiscate numismatic coins the last time around.


32 posted on 02/22/2009 8:59:47 AM PST by goldi
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To: Philo-Junius

I did a yahoo search for it, but couldn’t find anything. What is/was the Twenty-Nine Palms study?


33 posted on 02/22/2009 10:45:20 AM PST by GBA
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To: TLI

Thanks for the link. I remember the Katrina confiscations and think about them whenever I hear or read someone say that it can’t happen here. It can. With so many disturbing similarities between then and now, I am starting to somewhat reluctantly understand how Nazi Germany could have happened.


34 posted on 02/22/2009 10:51:09 AM PST by GBA
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To: GBA

http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/419.html

I don’t find the New American article, but basically research was done by an officer for his master’s on the extent to which Marines would be willing to open fire on Americans.


35 posted on 02/22/2009 11:43:40 AM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Perseverando

BTTT


36 posted on 02/22/2009 2:43:09 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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