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Posted on 02/23/2009 9:42:53 AM PST by EveningStar
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So where does the Constitution define what is a ‘natural born citizen’? That’s the key. Later in Section 8, it specifically gives congress the authorization to define citizenship rules. There are a lot of ‘if’s’ for Obama based on if he was born outside the US, if his parents where legally married, if is mother met residency requirements, etc, but as for Jindal, it is pretty cut and dry. We’ve had many presidents who had immigrant parents. (eg. Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur).
I also think it is asininely stupid to hold either candidate responsible for what some of their alleged supporters are alleged to be doing.
Now if Romney himself makes a statement trashing Palin as Huckabee has done ('She hasn't paid her dues or earned her way into a primary spot'), then that is fair game.
But from what I've seen, the Romney supporters (mainly economic conservatives) seem to be a far more intelligent crowd than the Huckabee supporters, whom I refuse to trash because we will need both groups to win an election and undo the damage Zer0 will do by 2012.
The lefties and the MSM have succeeded in putting her in a leather jacket, strapping her to a motorcycle and sending her over the shark! She cannot come back from this in the eyes of a jaded and cynical public. The conservative movement no longer has the energy to resusitate morbund personalities in order to field candidates.
When Obama and company have been found out to be the tyrannts that they are by the 25% of voters that put them into power, the switch back to Reaganville will be much easier for them if we have a serious and sober conservative leader ready to lead without "baggage". Sadly, Sarah won't be that person, IMHO.
You can blame that on open primaries. Had the primaries been closed to party only, McCain would have been an "also ran" in the primaries, instead of the general.
What is more important to the future of America-that Bristol Palin was interviewed by Greta or that Sarah Palin called for Obama to veto the stimulus bill and thus forced him to take complete ownership of the bill? The former is a red herring, the latter-harpooning the big fish.
Not directing it at you, but at the insipid writer of the article
I feared you might misinterpret
Open primaries were a contributing cause toward McCain's selection, I agree.
Yet, knowing the rules ahead of time, neither Romney nor Huckabee nor Giuliani nor Thompson was inventive enough to arrive at a winning strategy.
No need making excuses for any of them. If they couldn't figure out a way to beat McCain, they're not going to figure out a way to beat the Democrat. Thus, they're not worth putting forward again.
Yea, I got a kick out of that one . . . Greta said she expected the other grandmother to bring the baby out--you know, the one that was just arrested for selling oxycontin. Sure, Greta. Sure Sarah. Here in Juneau we are back to the way it was before the election. Sarah reaching across the isle to liberal Dems and conservatives saying she doesn't know what she's doing. This interview is just one more piece of evidence on that point.
Despite the constant MSM bashing, her poll numbers are rising already, especially among independents. Moreover, although many independents voted for Obama, 2/3 of them according to a poll, say she's getting a raw deal from the press.
They'll give her another look. It's a long way to 2012.
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that in her time, articles were titled "Margaret Thatcher's Problem".
Point made, understood, and agreed with.
Amen to that.
The parallels are striking.
I honestly don’t see “many missteps” No she is not perfect, nobody is. But she’s close enough for me.
Thanks for the link, Al.
If Palin wishes to be in the running in 2012 she had better get moving on her rehab pronto! She needs policy papers and serious interviews (”I’m not here to talk of my family’s problems, George, I’m here to speak of America’s new socialist tragedy!”). She needs a speaking tour and a publicist. She needs to bone-up on foreign policy and become a recognized expert in SOMETHING! She has a very deep well to climb out of in short order just to be on even ground with Jindal and other rising stars. Her name recognition aside, would anyone be giving her a second look (politically) if she had not just LOST her first bid to be vice-president?
“Jindal . . . not a natural born citizen.”
Jindal was born in Baton Rouge, LA.
Let me guess, you support RINO Romney?
So how do you expect the MSM to "Palin" Jindal? You know they're going to try...
Thou Shalt Not Criticize Sarah Palin
The kool aid drinkers don’t like that!
“Beware of ANYONE who claims to be able to determine whether or not one is a conservative based on their stance on a single issue.”
Ok..I give up....who’s the quote from?
It’s impossible to like a political figure and also find fault with him/her.
If you do so, you’re a RINO, troll, DUer, (fill in the blank).
Our heroes are not responsible for their actions. They never make mistakes - ever. If they fail, the responsibility for that failure lies totally with the media and RINOs.
the quote is from yours truly, me myself and dmz
I am not a social conservative, and I make no bones about it. On this very forum, on nearly a daily basis, one can read that if you are not a social conservative, you are not a conservative. Yawn.
The reality of being a conservative nowhere contains a reference to Sarah Palin.
It may or may not be Palin in 2012 but it's way too early to count her out.
None of the stuff you mentioned concerns me.
However, I am not confident that Sarah Palin possesses the necessary “gravitas” (I know, I hate that word too) and policy wonkiness to appeal to a large enough cross section of voters - specfically the upper-income, college educated folks.
It is for this reason that I think Mark Sanford or Bobby Jindal would be more effective presidential candidates for the GOP - even though I love Sarah Palin and would voter for her in a heartbeat....we need more than the conservative base to win. Do not take that statement as a suggestion that we should water down our principles, but we need an effective spokesman that can both shoot holes in the Democrats’ proposals and argue and persuade voters to agree with we conservatives. I’m not convinced Sarah Palin has that ability.
I agree 100%. The truth is, it is not abut Sarah either. It is Jesus that they hate, and she has a relationship with Him, and it drives them crazy.
“the quote is from yours truly, me myself and dmz”
Duh....but the reply was WAY over your head I guess...
“not a social conservative”
Care to define that?
You’re a log cabin republican perhaps?
Palin’s problem is she must effectivly do a 100% bypass of all media outlets and establishment effete elites.
she has to go direct to mr and mrs america and introduce herself directly.
Unfortunatly senior america is still a slave to the old media.
The Constitutional definition of “citizen” is one who was born in this country.
Jindal was born in Baton Rouge, LA. And he can prove it.
The One (piss be upon him) cannot and never will.
May MOD’s mercy be upon you.
LOL. It is an absolute hoot to watch you crow all over yourself and how smart you think you are. You are, what, 13 or so years old? The snicker after mentioning homos gave it away.
The reality is that one cannot remain a conservative, without social conservatism, because the society will devolve into what we are seeing today.
If you say so, which I don’t.
I like John Thune. I think with his good looks, his nice looking wife and daughters, his country conservatism, he would make mincemeat out of Obama in the next election.
Hate to say it but Jindal would never win, he’s not attractive enough, and though I don’t like it, today’s American voter is so superficial they go on looks and not much else. Mr. Thune is good looking!
Fight fire with fire! The Obama Machine would make mincemeat out of Sarah again, just like they did last time. He’d be harder pressed to do that to a man.
You are correct. Without social conservatism all of America will look like that disgusting Oscar ceremony last night.
Dude, listen to what this fellow-very-conservative writer is saying:
“The cold, hard truth is that Sarah Palin is being and will be held to an incredibly high standard by political allies and adversaries alike. If she truly cherishes aspirations to national leadership, she has to realize that her every word, gesture and situation will be subjected to a level of scrutiny that will make what shes already endured seem like a day at the beach. And then she needs to act accordingly.”
Palin does NOT seem to have the common-sense instincts in dealing with the media, that a serious Reagan-like candidate must. Time and again, she has lacked judgment (that Turkey slaughter thing for example was just ridiculous—a kindergardener could have told her it was stupid!) in her self-chosen media exposure. National candidacy is all about media-management—ESPECIALLY for Conservatives.
Dan Quayle, smart conservative guy that he certainly is in reality, failed at this, and so does Sarah Palin.
I sincerely and confidently compare her to Jefferson and Reagan. Those two may have been more adept with the written word, where Gov P manifest much the same thru her actions. Either way, all three understood/stand the ideal of America.
“LOL. It is an absolute hoot to watch you crow all over yourself and how smart you think you are. You are, what, 13 or so years old? The snicker after mentioning homos gave it away.”
Nah...I’m way older than 13...I stopped using “LOL” and the word “homo” when I grew up.
Then maybe you can offer a better explanation for the devolution of our society?
I always like when the writer says “I like her but.....” Then goes on for paragraphs about what a dolt she is. The issue is the author just like so many others, does not like Gov. Palin.
They can’t paint him as dumb or uneducated. They will go after him on religion IMO and try to turn him into an extremist. He doesn’t come across that way when he speaks though. I certainly hope that Jindal realizes this and is ready for it.
That could be dangerous for them. Jindal is a converted Christian, from Hinduism. Obama is a converted Christian, from Muslim. How can they attack one and ignore the other, especially after ignoring the 20 years of Obama listening to the rants of Rev. Wright?
The “other grandma” was Sally Heath, Sarah’s mother, so actually Greta was expecting the great-grandma. Both mention how Mrs. Heath was in the hall. Ms.Johnston was no where around.
BTW, the interview took place at a library in Fairbanks, not the Palin home. Greta said back in November that she’d be covering the finish of the Iron Dog, so she had planned to be up there anyway.
My question is why did Greta want to interview Bristol anyway???
My question is why did Greta want to interview Bristol anyway???
I just don't like coronations. If Palin wins the nomination then it'll be because she worked for it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that so far she'll be up against Romney, Sanford, Jindal, Barbour, Huntsman, and God knows how many others. She'd better get her act together and lower the flake content a bit or she's going to be Quayle v 2.0.
If anyone believes this I have a bridge to sell. Cheap.
As big of a supporter of Gov. Palin that I am I had the same thought. Don’t tell me that Fox would send a crew to Alaska and not expect some face time with the most famous Republican in the U.S. Greta has more important things to do than talk to impulsive teens regarding pregnancy.
She’s been Quayled by those who value fiscal conservatism more than social.
We shall see.