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Sarah Palin's Problem
Townhall.com ^ | February 23, 2009 | Carol Platt Liebau

Posted on 02/23/2009 9:42:53 AM PST by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar

Yeah right. Reagan had the same problem. Most people from California if I remember were agast that we would vote for Reagan as he was unpopular in California for raising taxes.


51 posted on 02/23/2009 10:05:15 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: daylilly

Not a natural born citizen? I believe he was born in Louisiana.


52 posted on 02/23/2009 10:05:23 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: EveningStar
Defending someone that knocks Palin. Figured you would do that. Fits your MO with posting this ridiculous hit piece.
53 posted on 02/23/2009 10:06:13 AM PST by utahson
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To: Beagle8U
“And let’s not forget the now-infamous footage of Governor Palin pardoning one Thanksgiving turkey as another was slaughtered behind her.”

So, what do you want to eat for Thanksgiving, TOFU??

It's really easier to enjoy a turkey dinner when the turkey's dead before it gets stuffed and put in an oven.

54 posted on 02/23/2009 10:07:06 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: daylilly

Born in Baton Rouge Louisiana...so what are you talking about?


55 posted on 02/23/2009 10:08:09 AM PST by Crimson Elephant
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To: daylilly
Jindal was born here.... Piyush Jindal (pronounced /ˈdʒɪndəl/) was born on June 10, 1971 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, to Punjabi Indian immigrants Amar and Raj Jindal, who had recently arrived for Amar to attend graduate school at Louisiana State University.[1] His father, Amar, left India and his ancestral family village of Khanpura in 1970.[2] His mother, Raj, is an information technology director for the Louisiana Department of Labor.[3] According to family lore, Jindal chose to re-name himself "Bobby" inspired by the sitcom character Bobby Brady after watching The Brady Bunch television series at age four. He has been known by his adopted nickname ever since—as a civil servant, politician, student, and writer—though legally his name remains Piyush Jindal.[4] Jindal was born and raised a Hindu, but converted to Catholicism in high school.[5] As conveyed by Louisiana political writer John Maginnis, Jindal has also offered his religious testimony before Baptist and Pentecostal congregations.[6] He attended public school at Baton Rouge Magnet High School. Following high school, Jindal attended Brown University, graduating with honors in biology and public policy.[7] Although he had thought of a career in medicine or law and was accepted by Harvard Medical School[citation needed] and Yale Law School[citation needed], he chose to pursue a political career. He received a master's degree in political science from New College, Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar. After Oxford, he joined McKinsey & Company, a consulting firm, where he advised Fortune 500 companies. In 1996 Jindal married Supriya Jolly (born 1972). The couple have three children: Selia Elizabeth, Shaan Robert, and Slade Ryan. From Wikipedia entry, Bobby Jindal
56 posted on 02/23/2009 10:08:13 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: EveningStar

“Sarah Palin’s Problem” is that under-30 voters have accepted the comedy show caricature of her hook, line, and sinker. There’s no way back from that - she’ll be a joke to them forever.


57 posted on 02/23/2009 10:08:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: EveningStar
Sarah Palin’s Problem...

The media:

“I wish I knew how to quit you....”

Sarah:

“Well, why don’t you? Why don’t you just let me be?”

58 posted on 02/23/2009 10:08:42 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: stevestras
Palin found out the day before at least. (I link to the transcript at my blog.) Her husband and she allowed it to happen.

Then after Bristol's totally botched it, sent the message that she disrespects her parents, her mother had no impact on her decision not to kill the child, abstinence is unrealistic, kids should wait 10 years to have immoral sex because then it will be "easier" — THEN Governor Palin comes in and praises Bristol as a role model / advocate of whom she's really, really proud.

I've no need to act like the Dems who sold their souls to defend everything Clinton did. This was a big mistake. I hope she can correct course.

59 posted on 02/23/2009 10:09:40 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: EveningStar
What in the world was she thinking to allow her daughter Bristol, an eighteen year old unmarried mother, to proffer a national interview?

Huh? Since when does an adult US citizen need her mother's permission to give a media interview? Bristol is making a bundle of money from her media appearances, giving herself independence so she doesn't have to put up with her mother's crap anymore and doesn't have to marry the scummy Levi Johnston. Her mother, meanwhile, owes a bundle in back taxes and is much more interested in self-promotion than in playing a positive role in her adult daughter's life. Go Bristol!

60 posted on 02/23/2009 10:10:22 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Retired Greyhound

In order to maintain intellectual (and I use that term very broadly) consistency, some of the Obama’s-not-a-natural-born-citizen nuts have adopted a goofy definition of the expression “natural born” that nobody ever heard of until they needed it for their opposition to Obama.


61 posted on 02/23/2009 10:10:38 AM PST by Sloth (The tree of liberty desperately needs watering.)
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To: EveningStar

Either spelling is correct.


62 posted on 02/23/2009 10:10:45 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: GWMcClintock

Well, 18 year old Bristol may be an adult, but she’s living like a child in her parents’ house, and they can set any rules and restrictions they see fit. I would think that just mere consideration for the household would cause Bristol to let them know their day would be interrupted with a camera crew, etc.


63 posted on 02/23/2009 10:10:46 AM PST by Crystal Cove
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To: utahson; Admin Moderator

That is not true, a person can question a qualification without being a troll, and I am sure not one. Knock that off. Talk about the substance of what I said, but knock off the personal attack.

There are different views of what natural born citizen is, and I’ve read a lot about it. I hold the view that it is not merely being born in this country. It is having parents as citizens. You risk division promoting him.

Jindal IS QUALIFIED by his conservatism, his views, his good work. Nothing can change the circumstances of his birth. He is wonderfully qualified for a great many things. But that does not change his citizenship details.
I do not hold the view you hold.

That is fine for you to hold a different view than I do, I got mine by reading through some of the Federalist papers. But you cannot force that down someone else’s throat.


64 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:01 AM PST by daylilly
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To: KosmicKitty

Did you even read MY post?


65 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:03 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: daylilly

Jindal was born in the U.S. He is a natural born citizen.


66 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:10 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"so she doesn't have to put up with her mother's crap anymore and doesn't have to marry the scummy Levi Johnston. Her mother, meanwhile, owes a bundle in back taxes and is much more interested in self-promotion than in playing a positive role in her adult daughter's life."

Huh? Boy you trolls just can't help but out yourselves.
67 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:35 AM PST by utahson
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To: EveningStar

SARAH!


68 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:43 AM PST by onedoug
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To: daylilly
Jindal has been impressive, but as POTUS he is not qualified as a natural born citizen. He may be a citizen but not a natural born citizen.

With all due respect, that's an absurd notion with no basis in fact.

I'm familiar with the argument, thank you. But there is no court in the nation that would uphold it. Nor would any reasonable person remotely familiar with the citizenship laws.

Please, you're smart enough to recognize the assertion is a red herring.

69 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:56 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: EveningStar

I think that Palin has made some mistakes but when the hounds are after you that is to be expected. The level of hate and disdain expressed by the left for her is enough for me to give her a pass on many things. I know she is not stupid and anecdotes and nervous interviews to hostile interviewers doesn’t make her so. Also the actions of her daughter doesn’t make her so. Single motherhood is a disease in this nation and we only have to look to popular culture as the way this disease is spread and it isn’t surprising that many of our conservative icons families have been far from perfect. One only has to look to Ron Reagan Jr to see that parents no matter how they try do not always succeed in transferring their world.

What gets me with those on the left and right where Palin is concerned is the level of derangement and lack of objectivity. They would never apply such a harsh standard to their favorite politicians. Part of the issue is clearly that Palin is proof positive that the image of a professional woman as an either or arrangement is patently false. One does not have to put off family for profession.

It is I believe it is more about ego for conservative leaning professional women and for liberals it is an outright fear that their personal dogma and definition of “the liberated woman” is at risk. I don’t much care about the liberals and what they think, they are intellectual immoral worms when judged by their horrid beliefs and in a better world would be treated as such. They are only important in as much as how very dangerous and destructive the pursuit of their beliefs is to the rest of us.

Sarah Palin may not be the next great leader of the GOP but to claim she is some how critically flawed when we have such an individual as we have now in the White House is ridiculous. She is not a Dan Quayle. If it is a choice between Palin and the same batch of also rans next go around then I’m all for Palin. She is attractive, a Mom, and an honest politician and that puts her at the top of the list in my book. If she’d be let run the McCain campaign they just might have won. One thing that is certain is that the rabble rouser liberal we have now is unbecoming of America.


70 posted on 02/23/2009 10:13:42 AM PST by Maelstorm (While private sector workers lose jobs, union civil servants get a raise. Only in America.)
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To: daylilly
Quit posting propaganda. You posted an outright lie about Jindal.
71 posted on 02/23/2009 10:13:44 AM PST by utahson
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To: ClearCase_guy

“But self-confidence unsupported by judgment, knowledge and savvy is nothing but arrogance.”

Geez... this comment could have been written about Obie-wan.


72 posted on 02/23/2009 10:13:48 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: EveningStar
failing to pay taxes on her per diem expenses (although, in other circumstances, such an oversight might make her a prime candidate for an Obama Cabinet position)

*snrk*

73 posted on 02/23/2009 10:15:42 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: frogjerk
Please.

I am a 100% supporter of Sarah Palin.

I joined and donated to TeahSarah, and several other Sarah sites.

I have a "God Bless Sarah Palin" bumper sticker on the front AND back of my car.

Yet I must agree it was stupid for Sarah to put her 18 year old daughter in front of a national TV camera.

I saw the interview, and my perception was that Sarah was more interested than her daughter Bristol in showing off the new baby, and in getting the daughter's story out into the media.

Bottom line: nothing good ever comes from putting an 18-year old in front of a national TV reporter (even if it is Greta).

And it was certainly not helpful for Bristol to insist that teenage abstinence is "unrealistic."

I believe that Sarah was so proud of her new grandchild ... and wanted to show her off ... that she let emotions get the better of her logic.

74 posted on 02/23/2009 10:17:00 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: utahson

If it is incorrect, it is from what I read about him.
Please give me a source if you have different information.
Since he has run for office, I would assume there is an abundance. Were his parents naturalized citizens at the time of his birth? Give me a source and I will check it out, but not knowing anymore about you than your screenname, your information is worthless without a source.


75 posted on 02/23/2009 10:19:49 AM PST by daylilly
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To: Diogenesis
Good find...Carol Platt Liebau often sits in as a guest host for Hugh Hewitt, a HUGE Romney supporter.

The dots have been connected...

76 posted on 02/23/2009 10:19:50 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: okie01

Carol substitutes for Hugh Hewitt. Both are heavy Romney supporters.

Recently Bill Bennett attacked Sarah and Bristol Palin for the interviews they gave to Greta and today lavished praise on Jindal.

Let’s face it folks: Sarah must be destroyed ASAP or nobody will have a chance to beat her in 2012. She is just too damn popular with the base. Witness the rise of SarahPac, Team Sarah, Conservatives 4 Palin, Sarah Palin radio, and web sites devoted to electing Sarah President in 2012.

Now Rush is touting Jindal as the voice that best expresses Reagan conservatism today. Rush, I usually agree with you, but you are right only 98.6% of the time. Even the Doctor of Demcoracy can have an off day.


77 posted on 02/23/2009 10:20:04 AM PST by techno
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“...she’ll be a joke to them forever.”

Well, hopefully only until their hero makes it impossible for them to find decent jobs, earn a living wage, buy a nice home, and furnish it. Then he takes away some of their freedoms, and forces them to ‘volunteer’ for the state. Then, maybe, they’ll stop laughing and start taking their citizenship more seriously. It’s easy to be a liberal when your parents are paying the bills and you have no responsibility.


78 posted on 02/23/2009 10:22:12 AM PST by carmody
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To: daylilly

Maybe from what you have read on left wing web sites. Nothing ever has been posted on FR with the propaganda you posted. Do your own homework or maybe you can ping a mod again for assistance.


79 posted on 02/23/2009 10:23:05 AM PST by utahson
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To: daylilly
Jindal has been impressive, but as POTUS he is not qualified as a natural born citizen. He may be a citizen but not a natural born citizen.

What are you talking about, he was born in the United States by naturalized citizen parents, he does qualify under Title 8 of the immigration/citizenship code as well as all stretch translations and opinions of the US Constitution. The only place that is pushing this is DU where they are trying to make some connection to Bambi's issue.

80 posted on 02/23/2009 10:24:04 AM PST by mnehring
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To: utahson

I saw a couple of DU trolls post this theory, and they turned into one of those threads where everyone bashes the poster after being zotted.


81 posted on 02/23/2009 10:24:40 AM PST by mnehring
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To: utahson
Defending someone that knocks Palin. Figured you would do that. Fits your MO with posting this ridiculous hit piece.

Giving constructive criticism does not make this a hit piece. And just what is my MO anyway?

82 posted on 02/23/2009 10:25:13 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I Love Sarah Palin


83 posted on 02/23/2009 10:26:23 AM PST by shiva
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To: mnehrling
Thanks for the info. I am sure my suspicions of some on this trhead are spot on.
84 posted on 02/23/2009 10:27:26 AM PST by utahson
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To: utahson

His father was naturalized in 1970, I believe his mother prior to that as she worked for the government before they where married. Jindal was born in 71.


85 posted on 02/23/2009 10:27:34 AM PST by mnehring
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To: techno
I see Palin and Jindal both as valid choices for 2012 -- though the field of acceptable candidates will probably expand and, in any event, it's far too early to be committed to one or the other (and knocking everybody else).

While I was a Romney supporter myself, I'm leery of supporting a candidate who couldn't beat out John McCain -- the most unsatisfactory GOP candidate since Thomas Dewey.

86 posted on 02/23/2009 10:27:41 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: mnehrling

Well, you are telling me that his parents were naturalized. Were they naturalized before or after he was born? That makes a difference to me.
That is what I am talking about. You don’t have to agree with that, I can respect that. It took my mother five years to become naturalized. They left India in 1970 and he was born in 1971.


87 posted on 02/23/2009 10:28:19 AM PST by daylilly
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To: from occupied ga
Just like every liberal who writes an anti-gun screed starts out with I believe in the second amendment, but...

"Everything before 'but' is B.S." - Jim Quinn

88 posted on 02/23/2009 10:28:35 AM PST by kevkrom ("The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.")
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To: carmody

By the way Carol went to Harvard and knew Obama when he was head of the Law Review. During her stint Friday on Hewitt’s program she said (paraphrased), “I didn’t think during the campaign it was appropriate to let the American people know about the Barack Obama I knew at Harvard and how he did his job as editor of the Law Review and what political leanings he had at the time.”

Well Carol, there are millions of Americans with buyers’ remorse right now. It would have been great to have known what you know about Obama before entering the voting booth.


89 posted on 02/23/2009 10:28:37 AM PST by techno
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To: frogjerk
Is her daughter not 18?

If not mistaken, wasn't the interview done in Sarah and Todd's house?

Also, an 18-year old hardly has the political wisdom to know when to answer and when to refuse.

Even when it's a nice one like Greta.

90 posted on 02/23/2009 10:29:11 AM PST by Edit35 (.)
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To: daylilly
Jindal has been impressive, but as POTUS he is not qualified as a natural born citizen. He may be a citizen but not a natural born citizen.

You need to do some research. Here's a wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_jindal :-)

Governor Jindal was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, unless that state has seceded from the union and the papers didn't cover it?

Palin/Jindal or Jindal/Palin 2012!! Win/win situation either way!
91 posted on 02/23/2009 10:30:16 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: ClearCase_guy
But self-confidence unsupported by judgment, knowledge and savvy is nothing but arrogance.

Perfect profile of the current occupants of the WH.

92 posted on 02/23/2009 10:31:28 AM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: daylilly
Jindal has been impressive, but as POTUS he is not qualified as a natural born citizen. He may be a citizen but not a natural born citizen.

Did you get your law degree inside a box of Cracker Jacks?

93 posted on 02/23/2009 10:34:42 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: daylilly
WTH is this supposed to mean?!

There are different views of what natural born citizen is, and I’ve read a lot about it. I hold the view that it is not merely being born in this country. It is having parents as citizens. You risk division promoting him.

Where in the Constitution of the United States does it say this?!?

My husband was born in India, but became an American citizen several years ago. Are you saying my son can NEVER be POTUS because of this 'rule' you seem to have made up?!? >:-(
94 posted on 02/23/2009 10:35:37 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: BibChr

Gov Palin is a great lady, but she is only a human being and I am sorry to say this world is now to far gone with Corruption, Immorality, Lovers of themselves rather than GOD

everything Paul warned us of in the Last Days...

The ONLY ONE who is coming to make things right is: Jesus Christ.


95 posted on 02/23/2009 10:37:12 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: EveningStar
Let the media pick our candidate. Brilliant./Sarc

Sure, they smacked her around and she still drew massive crowds. Ask Chambliss.

The "conservatives" will run scared and go for Sanford or Jindal (both excelllent candidates) and then act shocked when the media eviscerates those two.Face it. No matter who we nominate will be portrayed as an inexperienced village idiot by the MSM. Let's just go with the candidate we like best. Palin, Jindal, Sanford, and Demint are excellent candidates.

96 posted on 02/23/2009 10:41:17 AM PST by MattinNJ (Palin or Sanford in 2012)
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To: pillut48
Where in the Constitution of the United States does it say this?!?

This is coming from one of those lawsuits against Obama buy some poker player who claims that you can't be a Natural Born Citizen unless you where born to born to natural born citizen parents on US soil, anything else is just a 'citizen'... it is a real stretch as nothing in US law states this, the guy who filed this suit had to go back to old British Common Law and really twist what is there, then assume it applies to us... I think this was an alternative legal attack by those who didn't think the birth certificate thing wouldn't go anywhere.

97 posted on 02/23/2009 10:42:12 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
Well, I go by this:

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Anything else that is added outside of the Constitution is bullhockey!

My children could be president of these United States someday--that is, if there's anything left after HolyO is through ruining it!!!
98 posted on 02/23/2009 10:45:15 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: frogjerk
Please.

As I recall Bristol was asked when she told her mother she was doing the interview. She answered the day before. Greta announced since Bristol was 18 she did not have to have her mothers permission. Don't think Sarah had a say in the whole deal Just like Bristol deciding to have sex, mom didn't have a say in that decision after the fact.

The Bush daughters didn't get pregnant, but they sure partied and did plenty of embarrassing thing to the President.

Kids for better or worse make their own decisions.

99 posted on 02/23/2009 10:45:33 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: daylilly
That makes a difference to me.

Well, it doesn't make a difference when it comes to his legal eligibility, so what you posted about him not being a natural born citizen is false. And no we don't have to agree with you, but the facts are on our side. Don't vote for him if you want, your one non-vote won't make a difference in the support for him if the base backs him up.

One final comment...you have been provided with the correct information, continuing this course of discrimination only makes you look bad and demeans the integrity of the forum. Please cut it out.

100 posted on 02/23/2009 10:45:36 AM PST by ravingnutter
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