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Israel's Arab Citizens Deserve Better Than Lieberman
New York Daily News ^ | 2.24.09 | Richard Cohen

Posted on 02/24/2009 8:25:15 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick

The day after the UN created the State of Israel, the country's first president, Chaim Weizmann, found time to work on his memoir, "Trial and Error." In it, he issued a warning to the Israeli leaders of today: "I am certain that the world will judge the Jewish state by what it will do with the Arabs." It was Nov. 30, 1947.

Weizmann was an astonishingly accomplished man - chemist, diplomat, statesman - but maybe his most uncanny talent was that of seer. Peering into the future, he glimpsed the ugly turn Israeli politics has recently taken and how it is now acceptable to talk in repulsive ways about the country's 1.3 million Arabs. "There must not be one law for the Jew and another for the Arabs," he wrote.

Weizmann's admonition may not be known to Avigdor Lieberman, an immigrant from the former Soviet Republic of Moldova and now one of Israel's most important political leaders. Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu Party placed third in the recent election, meaning he will almost certainly be part of the next government. Lieberman is often called a "nationalist." Maybe so, but he is also an anti-Arab demagogue.

The Arabs of Lieberman's antipathy are not Israel's traditional enemies - either in Gaza, the West Bank or elsewhere in the Middle East. He is referring instead to the Arabs of Israel proper, about 20% of the population. They are his fellow citizens, some of them of dubious loyalty, it is true, and most of them with genuine grievances, it is also true. In essence, Lieberman wants to swap them for Jewish settlers now living provocatively on the occupied West Bank. It's half a good idea.

But it is the other half - the one that would rid Israel of its Arabs - that has propelled Lieberman to the front rank of Israeli politicians. The Israeli electorate, feeling besieged, has moved to the right. The centrist Kadima Party narrowly won the election, but it is the right that gained strength overall, and now Prime Minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu, not Kadima's Tzipi Livni, is trying to form a government. Lieberman ought not to be part of it.

The issue of Israel's Arabs is complicated. They are not Jews, yet they are expected to be loyal to a Jewish state. They are Arabs, yet they are expected to stand by while their fellow Arabs are pounded - as in Gaza - by Israeli guns.

Yet, in an odd way, Israel's Arabs ought to represent the best of Israel. They can vote. They hold seats in parliament. They have more civil rights in Israel than they would in any Arab nation. They ought to be a point of pride. Their civil liberties, their standard of living, their political participation ought to show the world what sort of country Israel is. That's what Weizmann wanted.

Weizmann was no dreamer. His century - the 20th - was fast becoming the bloodiest in history. The world was just completing an orgy of genocide, a decades-long brawl culminating in the Holocaust and followed by the expulsion of millions of ethnic Germans from all over Eastern Europe. Pakistan and India were created in a similar manner - a population swap of many millions of people. This was the way things were once done.

Israel, too, engaged some in ethnic cleansing - or why else all those Palestinian refugees? But the attempt was both chaotic and, as we can see, not wholly successful. More important, the concept was anathema to important members of the Zionist establishment such as Weizmann. The way of the world - eliminating ethnic minorities - would not be practiced by the very ethnic minority that had suffered the most.

Lieberman's rhetoric has excited some concern in the American Jewish community, but as usual, most of the leaders are mum. They ought to open their Weizmann, page 461 to be precise, and see what Israel's Founding Fathers had in mind. Israel can swap land for peace, but not Arab for Jew. That would leave an empty space - not only where the Arabs once were, but where Israel once kept its values.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: authorisaliar; dhimmi; fakehistorian; fakehistory; idiot; israel; israeliarabs; jino; proarabscreed; selfhatingjew

1 posted on 02/24/2009 8:25:15 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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Israel, too, engaged some in ethnic cleansing - or why else all those Palestinian refugees?

What a moron. Or is he denying that the surrounding countries told the Arabs to flee and that after they murdered all the Jews, they could not only return, but also take whatever belonged to the Jews?

2 posted on 02/24/2009 8:26:46 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: SJackson

Thought you might be interested in this one.


3 posted on 02/24/2009 8:27:47 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Richard Cohen lives in the same Echo chamber as E.J. Dionne.


4 posted on 02/24/2009 8:28:28 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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But it is the other half - the one that would rid Israel of its Arabs - that has propelled Lieberman to the front rank of Israeli politicians.

I don't ever recall Cohen bitching about the rest of the Middle East being essentially Judenrein.

They are Arabs, yet they are expected to stand by while their fellow Arabs are pounded - as in Gaza - by Israeli guns.

This idiot seems to forget all those rockets that were being fired into Israel proper from Gaza -- some of which could have hit Israeli Arabs.

5 posted on 02/24/2009 8:30:46 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Worse, because Cohen is Jewish, and his ignorant trashing of Israel gives aid and comfort to the Jew-haters.


6 posted on 02/24/2009 8:31:27 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Dear Mr. Cohen,

How are Saudi Arabia's Jewish citizens doing? Oh, that's right... the Saudis don't even allow Jews into their country.

My suggestion for peace in the Middle East is that whatever the American Leftist Media insists Israel do must also be done by all her Muslim Arab neighbors. We could call it "The Fairness Doctrine". What do you think, Mr. Cohen? Isn't that eminently fair?

7 posted on 02/24/2009 8:32:27 AM PST by Dr. Thorne (Buy Gold and Guns Now.)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
"I am certain that the world will judge the Jewish state by what it will do with the Arabs."

Well, I guess he was wrong, wasn't he?

ML/NJ

8 posted on 02/24/2009 8:32:58 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: NYC GOP Chick
The issue of Israel's Arabs is complicated. They are not Jews, yet they are expected to be loyal to a Jewish state. They are Arabs, yet they are expected to stand by while their fellow Arabs are pounded - as in Gaza - by Israeli guns.

They are only "expected" to do these things if they stay there, and they are free to GTHO.

9 posted on 02/24/2009 8:43:18 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: ml/nj

Not only do Jews in Israel have more freedoms than they do in any Arab country,

But ARABS in Israel have more freedoms than they do in any Arab country.


10 posted on 02/24/2009 8:44:27 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Land and population swap that Lieberman offers - exchange of the Arab towns within 1967 line for Jewish towns outside of the line - would require no person to physically move. The borders would move around the people.

Fridtjof Nansen (the League of Nations' first High Commissioner for Refugees and Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1922 for his work with refugees after the WWI and Russian revolution) helped Greece and Turkey to disengage and transfer across the border 1.5 mln Greeks and 0.5 mln Turks - which was regarded as a great achievement that saved untold lives. 

In that acclaimed case people had to move, in the Lieberman proposal - not. Lieberman's critics are of that type who say NO to a reasonable solution until situation deteriorates to untenable and no good solutions exist anymore.

11 posted on 02/24/2009 8:48:12 AM PST by Tolik
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First, American Jews shouldn't be concerned, they don't live there.

As I understand it, Lieberman's proposal is for an exchange of territory, which makes complete sense. It wouldn't strip Arab citizens of their citizenship, though it would require moving if they live in one of the exchanged areas. They have a choice, they can move. And if they're in one of the unexchanged area, they're not impacted.

The attention should be on Jews in the West Bank who are in a different situation. Israel, the United States, and the Euros will be creating a state harsher than the Reich in the 1930s. As in Gaza, Jews will be required to leave. Or they'll be killed, the government of the new apartheid state being unwilling to protect them. Christians can stay, and look forward to the same future as Christians in Gaza.

A land swap makes perfect sense, though it would be unnecessary were we actually supporting the creation of a modern, humane, democratic state, in which case Jews could simply stay where they are.

Bibi is right that economic development is the key, mix in political development, and that it will be years, imo decades, before a state is really viable. Which won't prevent anyone for pressing for it earlier.

12 posted on 02/24/2009 8:58:49 AM PST by SJackson (a tax cut is non-targeted…no guarantee…they’re free to invest anywhere that they want, J Kerry)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

aren’t they mostly refugee’s from Jordan??


13 posted on 02/24/2009 9:03:10 AM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: SJackson

Exactly right!


14 posted on 02/24/2009 9:51:59 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies - C.S. Lewis)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Ain’t that the truth!


15 posted on 02/24/2009 9:52:19 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies - C.S. Lewis)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Richard Cohen never mentions the issue that propelled Avigdor Lieberman's party to a third place finish: Arab extremism and identification with Hezbollah and Hamas. Israel's Arabs have chosen to become estranged from the state and to reject its legitimacy. Lieberman's position of demanding loyalty from them isn't racism; its in Israel's interests to have its Arab minority undertake the same obligations as Jews. Every other country in the world has the same standard of all its citizens. It is high time Israel followed suit.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 02/24/2009 9:56:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Israeli Arabs who find Israel stresses their identity too much can move to live in an Arab country. They are not forced against their will to remain in the Jewish State.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 02/24/2009 10:00:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tolik
The Little Triangle that is home to 90% of Israel's Arabs would be ceded to the PA in exchange for most of Judea and Samaria that is home to Israel's Jews. It would be a straight population for population swap. It is both democratic and fair. Both sides get what they want. The Arabs don't have to live in a country they cannot identify with and the Jews come under the sovereignty of a country they do want to be part of. There's nothing racist about it - it is plain old-fashioned common sense.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 02/24/2009 10:06:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NYC GOP Chick; SJackson; Alouette; ml/nj; forkinsocket; tedbel; Yehuda; Nachum; JewishRighter; ...
This Cohen article is worth a dozen barfies, as is 90+ percent of the trash produced by the "intellectuals" of the Jewish Left in the US and around the world!

Speaking of the Jewish Left, it's no wonder that this garbage appeared in the New York Daily News, which is owned by one of its stalwarts, Morton Zuckerman.

19 posted on 02/24/2009 10:58:27 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
The Daily News endorsed President Bush's re-election in 2004 and was consistently supportive of his foreign/defense policies and actions. Their editorials are always staunchly pro-Israel.

The paper is fairly liberal on social & domestic issues, but pretty consistently on the right side of things when it comes to the wars, national defense, calling Islamofascism what it is, etc.

They also publish Charles Krauthammer's columns on a regular basis (weekly, I think), as well as a variety of views from both left and right.

20 posted on 02/24/2009 12:37:34 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: goldstategop

Exactly. Cohen is a stooge, and a very dangerous one. As I think I mentioned earlier, he gives cover to the Jew-haters who couch their bigotry in “criticism” of Israel and Israeli policy.

He is, what the sane Jews refer to as, a shanda. And a putz.


21 posted on 02/24/2009 12:41:04 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: NYC GOP Chick; ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; Tabi Katz; Yehuda; NYC Republican; nysuperdoodle; ...
I confess I don't follow the Daily News much at all, but I'd be confident that they were gloating about "Osama" Obama throughout the last presidential campaign (after he had beaten out HRC for the Dem nomination) and endorsed him.

Zuckerman is known to be a good pal of the Clintons and was a guest at BJ's White House. I can recall that shortly after he bought the rag (that would be in 1994), the late Mike McAlary did a front page story there loaded with disinformation concerning the Vince Foster homicide case. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the agenda behind it.

22 posted on 02/24/2009 2:47:47 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Cohen is a shanda and a putz.

That's an apt description collectively of the Jewish Left, especially those in the anti-Israel camp.

23 posted on 02/24/2009 2:51:33 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ..
"There must not be one law for the Jew and another for the Arabs," he wrote.
Cohen needs to tell that to the Arabs, the Euros, the leftists, and the UN. Or otherwise, shut his mouth and keep it shut. Thanks justiceseeker93.
24 posted on 02/24/2009 3:12:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: goldstategop

If only it were home to 90% of Israeli Arabs. It’s not even close — more like 15%.


25 posted on 02/24/2009 5:50:16 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: justiceseeker93
"Israel's Arab Jewish Citizens Deserve Better Than Lieberman Abu Cohen."
26 posted on 02/24/2009 11:08:33 PM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: justiceseeker93

“Cohen is a shanda and a putz.
That’s an apt description collectively of the Jewish Left, especially those in the anti-Israel camp.”

Ok, I know what a putz is, but “shanda” has me stumped. What does it mean?


27 posted on 02/25/2009 2:30:31 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: flaglady47

but “shanda” has me stumped....etc...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
shame, scandal.....tks Google....


28 posted on 02/25/2009 2:47:25 AM PST by xrmusn ("If voting really mattered, they wouldn't let us do it")
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To: xrmusn

“but “shanda” has me stumped....etc...
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
shame, scandal.....tks Google....”

Thanks for the clarification.


29 posted on 02/25/2009 3:04:16 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Israeli Arabs plain don’t like Jews. For now they just chant, “Kill the Jews!” Once their numbers are large enough, they will begin doing it.


30 posted on 02/25/2009 9:28:58 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: Yehuda

Abu Cohen! LOL!!!


31 posted on 02/25/2009 10:26:43 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: flaglady47
The best translations of shanda (Yiddish word) would be shame or disgrace, often used to refer to a Jewish individual's action in relationship to the Jewish community as a whole.
32 posted on 02/25/2009 10:36:35 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: flaglady47; justiceseeker93; xrmusn
Hilarious Jackie Mason definition of "shanda".

(Click on right arrow for second and third page.)

33 posted on 02/25/2009 10:46:43 AM PST by wideminded
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To: flaglady47; justiceseeker93; xrmusn

Oops. Looks like there isn’t a third page. But he makes the point very well in two.


34 posted on 02/25/2009 10:53:29 AM PST by wideminded
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