Skip to comments.Islam in America: Islamic Compounds in the US
Posted on 02/24/2009 10:08:06 AM PST by RightSideNews
The documentary, called "Homegrown Jihad: Terrorist Camps Around the U.S," was produced by the Christian Action Network (CAN). The filmmakers claim that dozens of radical Muslim terrorist compounds currently exist across America, basing that claim upon a mysterious, untitled 2006 Regional Organized Crime Information Center report prepared for the Department of Justice marked "Dissemination Restricted to Law Enforcement."
RightSideNews attempted to acquire a copy of this document, through both the Department of Justice and the Christian Action Network, without success (at press time.)
Ryan Mauro, the founder of WorldThreats.com, is also a national security researcher for the Christian Action Network; he explained to RightSideNews that the document "is not publicly available" and that CAN's "copy is kept in a lockbox."
CAN also acquired a copy of a confiscated terrorist training video called "Soldiers of Allah," which features prominently in the new documentary. In the training video, Sheik Muburak Gilani, the founder of Jamaat ul-Fuqra (aka Muslims of America) declares, "We are fighting to destroy the enemy. We are dealing with evil at its roots and its roots are America." The video, according to the CAN press release, "teaches American students how to operate AK-47 rifles, rocket launchers, and machine guns; how to kidnap Americans and then kill them; how to conduct sabotage and subversive operations; and how to use mortars and explosives."
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Forget the Islamic camps in America.
I’ve talked to people who have seen the ones in Mexico. They are huge. They are ready to begin a cross-border war. Weapons restrictions are somewhat less there. Then there are those in America who go back to Pakistan and elsewhere with a detailed understanding of vulnerabilities and devices to employ.
I've seen the videos of training. What a sorry group.
The old OLD guys in the anti Castro group "Alpha-66" whose average member is aged 80 could kick their A$$E$. Heck, my IDPA club could toast those bozos. Easy to stroll thru a crowded hotel filled with unarmed sheep killing as you please. Try it with folks more ahhhh serious about self defense.
Bring it on. Huge camps = a target rich environment.
Before the "public intellectual" became fashionable, academia nurtured a deep abhorrence of anything "popular". Writing to a friend in 1950, British historian Hugh Trevor-Roper, for example, apologised for hibernating in Oxford "writing a book of infinite pedantic exactitude on a character of infinite dullness; but I must rehabilitate myself with the learned world after writing a bestseller."
The influence on the wider public discourse by the likes of Edward Said, Henry Kissinger, and even Amartya Sen, and the glamour surrounding their interventions, may have eroded the Senior Common Room's faith in the recondite but it hasn't destroyed it altogether. From the publication of his celebrated (some would say, notorious) "Clash of Civilizations" in 1993 till his death on Christmas Eve, Samuel Huntington was often taunted by the charge that he was willfully playing to the galleries, abandoning scholarship for polemics, if not prejudice.
These low blows were couched in a lethal combination of envy, anger and incomprehension. Huntington was neither a soothsayer nor a prophet. He was just a Harvard don trying to make sense of the post-Cold War world. In suggesting that the contemporary world could be better understood within the framework of conflicting civilizations, Huntington was actually trying to deflate the triumphalist assumptions prevailing in the West. In his view, the spread of American "soft" power wouldn't automatically be accompanied by the spread of liberal democracy.
"Somewhere in the Middle East", he wrote presciently in 1993, "half-dozen young men could well be dressed in jeans, drinking Coke, listening to rap, and between their bows to Mecca, putting together a bomb to blow up an American airliner." At that time, few people had even heard of Osama bin Laden.
After 9/11, this passage was elevated to the realms of prophecy which it was not. Huntington had just assembled disparate pieces of a puzzle and arrived at the conclusion that the Cold War had been replaced by a tussle which had the potential of turning into a big conflict.
His observations struck an immediate chord in the wider world because it corresponded to what many people instinctively felt but lacked the intellectual tools to put into a coherent framework. Huntington became a celebrity because he articulated a fear that dare not speak its name. He wasn't advocating a global clash; he was merely pointing to its growing imminence. In denouncing him as the evil Satan, his critics were shooting the messenger.
It has become customary for politicians, international bodies and the inter-faith industry to respond to every terrorist outrage and gunfire in West Asia with the assertion that there is no "clash of civilizations". What they actually mean is that there must not be a clash of civilizations a noble proclamation of good intent rather than an acknowledgement of reality.
It was this willful denial that probably triggered Huntington's final and more prescriptive book 'Who are we?' In his study of the American ethos, he argued that the American Creed wasn't merely built on the US Constitution and a social ethos where opportunity and individualism reigned supreme. To Huntington, it was bolstered by a national culture built on Christianity, the English language and the Anglo-Protestant culture.
Predictably, Huntington was viciously attacked for being an American Raj Thackeray. Certainly, he was guilty of ignoring the cultures of non-European immigrants. But Huntington's logic was different. In his view America was what it was because of its distinct intellectual inheritance. Take that away and you are still left with a US but a very different and fractured US. Such a country with a "denationalized elite" at the helm was by definition incapable of confronting the two immediate threats: militant Islam and Chinese nationalism. For the US to defend itself, Huntington said, it must first realize its national character. He could well have been speaking about Britain, and even India infected by the plague of national ambivalence.
In intellectual and policy circles it is obligatory and fashionable to rubbish the Huntington thesis as alarmist and divisive. Yet, the epitaph of the man debunked for anticipating the barbarians at the gate will surely read: "In your mind you know he was right."
"The only way America will ever be defeated by death-worshipping theocrats who've crawled out from under a Dark Ages rock is with the help of the mullahs' fifth column - academia, the media, the judiciary, public education, Hollywood and the Democratic Party.
Of the two suicide cults America confronts, liberalism is by far the more lethal."
-- Don Feder, In The War On Terror, Liberals Are More Dangerous Than Muslims -- A 9/11 meditation, September 19, 2006
They are recreating the kind of threat and danger which makes average citizens willing to exchange personal dignity, freedom and rights for security and personal safety.
They should all be uprooted and removed physically. To allow these individuals to continue here will do more than Nazism, Communism or a host of other historical threats ever did to totally destroy our democracy and republic.
I'm sorry, but it's hard to keep from giggling. This is going to spur anxiety attacks in the well to do areas of the large north eastern cities and of course it will motivate the gun control nuts to do everything they can to assist in the invasion and subsequent slaughter of our innocents just like always. It may cause heart palpitations to folks who migrated to the south for the climate. Those whose blood is in the deep south for generations are going to remember 911 and then the IED's and the suicide bombers whose cowardice forbids them to go toe to toe in honorable combat when they know they're going to lose. When you were kids, you all remembered the toughest boxer and ballplayer. All REAL AMERICANS love the sting of battle. We are going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks! We are going to murder those lousy Jihadi BAST**** by the bushel....
~pant pant~ Okay, I'm done channeling Patton...
They have grenades, and the average US citizen doesn’t. That’s a problem. Not having grenades, and facing grenades is an issue.
They gotta get close to use ‘em though. After you kill him, get his grenades, problem solved.
This begs the question, is Obama a Muslim?
If anyone’s got a ping list for muslim compounds in America, I’d like to be on it. Having lived by one :(
Keep it up; you’re doing a fine job.
There’s no formal Ping List that I’m aware of; if I see any similar articles, I’ll try to remember to Ping you.
Hey, yeah! ME TOO!!! Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. Observe and learn.
I bet every compound has at least two feds in it and they probably don’t know the other exists.
They'd better be smarter than the feds who tried to infiltrate the militias back in the 1990s. It was said that the easiest way to spot the undercover cop was to listen to which guy was doing the most urging to go out and throw bombs. Or the ones who got bored and left after practicing Hurricane relief operations (food and water distribution) and first aid for months.
If people want on or off this list, please let me know.
If you start a ping list, add me. Ignorance is not bliss in this situation.
Nice rhetoric, but I fear you greatly overestimate your fellow American. er citizens, er residents.
Well you obviously have never laid your hands on a Pittsburgh Steeler's fan!
Don't discount the literal bedrock of the population. Also, don't discount the hundreds of thousands of retired and former service members who will stand and fight a decidedly foreign invader. 300,000,000 Americans. Of that number at least a third are armed. 100,000,000 folks under arms is a pretty big force. Heck if only 10% of that actually undertakes to actively meet the threat, I think there is little to fear. Hell, just the state of Texas kicked Mexican A$$ to form the Lone Star Republic.
I am convinced Patton had a little help in his untimely death, MacCarthur on the other hand was merely handcuffed and fired. Two of the greatest Generals in modern warfare.
Ever think about why Truman aggressively processed the end of WW II then suddenly went wobbly and changed our warfare policy to limited warfare madness, and we haven't won a war since.
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