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Mexican police force on strike after grenade attack[Zihuatanejo]
Reuters ^ | Feb 23, 2009 | Mica Rosenberg

Posted on 02/24/2009 10:58:06 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

MEXICO CITY, - The entire local police force in a Mexican beach resort town walked off the job on Monday demanding better pay and benefits to compensate for the rising dangers they face from drug violence.

More than 300 municipal police officers in Zihuatanejo, a town on the Pacific coast north of Acapulco popular with foreign tourists, went on strike after grenades were lobbed at their offices over the weekend.


"We are seeing a lot things here that we have never seen before. It is our job to serve the citizens, but we need assurances that our families will be protected if one of us is killed," a member of Zihuatanejo's municipal police told Reuters.

The police want to have direct talks with Calderon to request improved benefits and an increase in their roughly $350 (5,200 pesos) per month salaries before they go back to work.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; cruise; cruises; drugwarconsequences; hellinahandbasket; mexico; thankprohibition; wod; zihuatanejo
Local PD demands direct talks with the President about a pay raise?
1 posted on 02/24/2009 10:58:07 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

They’d better talk to somebody.

2 posted on 02/24/2009 10:58:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SwinneySwitch

Mexico is a scary place right now

3 posted on 02/24/2009 10:59:11 AM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Better pay & benefits? Hell, I think asking for an uparmored Humvee would on my list of demands.

4 posted on 02/24/2009 10:59:17 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: SwinneySwitch

Situation deteriorating.

I guess a lot of US citizens are rethinking those vacation plans to Cozumel, Cancun, etc. If they haven’t, they should.

5 posted on 02/24/2009 11:00:15 AM PST by SueRae
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To: SueRae

Although I think in the not-so-distant future a lot of our troops will be heading down there.

6 posted on 02/24/2009 11:01:13 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We’ve gone to Ixtapa 4 or 5 times in the past 10 years or so. We finally stopped going down there in 2005 after muggings and attacks on tourists completely kept us from going into the resort zone after dark.

WE refuse to go there anymore...I’t would be akin to vacationing in a war zone.

7 posted on 02/24/2009 11:04:48 AM PST by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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To: All
I was in Zihautenejo in May 2007 and they had sailors from the Mexican Navy (who were uniformly very nice kids) patrolling the pier and waterfront with M-16's. I asked and was told they were there to keep us safe from the bandits who had robbed tourists earlier in the year.

Just my opinion, but Mexico is sliding into anarchy and it's going to get worse as the remittances their illegals send home from the US decline. If it was bad in 2007 then it's worse now. I'd cancel plans to visit Mexico if anyone is contemplating them as I'd hate to be there when order eventually breaks down completely.

8 posted on 02/24/2009 11:06:20 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
End marijuana prohibition, and cut out most of the cartels' revenues:

John P. Walters, director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy, said marijuana, not heroin or cocaine, is the "bread and butter," "the center of gravity" for Mexican drug cartels that every year smuggle tons of it through the porous U.S.-Mexico border. Of the $13.8 billion that Americans contributed to Mexican drug traffickers in 2004-05, about 62 percent, or $8.6 billion, comes from marijuana consumption.

9 posted on 02/24/2009 11:08:51 AM PST by Ken H
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To: SwinneySwitch

Where is Speedy Gonzalez when you need him?

10 posted on 02/24/2009 11:09:00 AM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party:
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To: SwinneySwitch

Guess I can’t really blame them but I sure as hell would ask for more than money.

11 posted on 02/24/2009 11:12:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: GeronL

Anyone contemplating a sping break in Mexico had better rethink their options.

12 posted on 02/24/2009 11:16:39 AM PST by dblshot
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To: dblshot

I know people who had to travel from a small village to Juarez trying to get into the US legally. They took a bus because they decided that they would be easier targets in a private vehicle.

Juarez police chief had just quit after 4 cops were killed in an ambush and pro-narco terrorists had shut down the international bridge.

wonderful timing for that meeting

13 posted on 02/24/2009 11:19:16 AM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: GeronL

In wonder if Thomson Consumer Electronics is happy they closed their three huge Indiana plants and moved them to Juarez.

14 posted on 02/24/2009 11:30:23 AM PST by henkster (0bamanomics: "I'll loan you all the money you need to get out of debt.")
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To: SwinneySwitch
Oddly, word of the strike doesn't appear in La Jornada, one of the major Mexico City papers. Their top story is the fact that the peso shrank to 15.35 against the dollar in intra-day trading to close at 14.92 pesos to the dollar. The peso had been at about 10 to the dollar since revaluation in the early '90s. Here's a chart showing the last 120 days.

So the average Mexican's money is now worth about 2/3rds what it was four months ago. This makes remittances more valuable than ever and will encourage illegal immigration even in the teeth of the US recession.

The big crime story for the day seems to be the theft of 40 tonnes of frijoles in the state of Sinaloa - seriously.

I'm not saying the news is being censored but it looks like Mexico has bigger problems than a police strike in a beach town.

15 posted on 02/24/2009 11:32:43 AM PST by InABunkerUnderSF (Be There >>>
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To: SwinneySwitch
Who had it right in 1990, Bill Bennett or Milton Friedman?

Milton Friedman on the "War on Drugs" (via 2006 FR thread))

(Letter to Bill Bennett; April 1990)

You are not mistaken in believing that drugs are a scourge that is devastating our society. You are not mistaken in believing that drugs are tearing asunder our social fabric, ruining the lives of many young people, and imposing heavy costs on some of the most disadvantaged among us.

You are not mistaken in believing that the majority of the public share your concerns. In short, you are not mistaken in the end you seek to achieve. Your mistake is failing to recognize that the very measures you favor are a major source of the evils you deplore. Of course the problem is demand, but it is not only demand, it is demand that must operate through repressed and illegal channels.

Illegality creates obscene profits that finance the murderous tactics of the drug lords; illegality leads to the corruption of law enforcement officials; illegality monopolizes the efforts of honest law forces so that they are starved for resources to fight the simpler crimes of robbery, theft and assault.

Drugs are a tragedy for addicts. But criminalizing their use converts that tragedy into a disaster for society, for users and non-users alike. Our experience with the prohibition of drugs is a replay of our experience with the prohibition of alcoholic beverages.


16 posted on 02/24/2009 11:39:51 AM PST by Ken H
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To: dfwgator

“Although I think in the not-so-distant future a lot of our troops will be heading down there.”

If our troops go down there between now and 2012, it’ll be to escort the “undocumented workers” to safety into the USSA, from those hostile, inhospitable, nativist ranchers.

17 posted on 02/24/2009 11:39:52 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!)
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To: henkster


Taiwan would have been a better idea I guess

18 posted on 02/24/2009 11:44:26 AM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: MahatmaGandu; SueRae
Yes it is deteriorating and anyone that believes this will not full break through the border and flood into Texas (primarily) is just not situationaly aware.

Mexico’s revenue is failing fast. The reduction in the u.S. economy is reducing the money being sent back to mexico from the criminal illegal alien border and immigration law violators.

This is pushing more mexicans into the exploding drug industry, which increases the doper / police war, which decreases tourism, further reducing a primary source of cash flow, ie. the tourist industry. Add to that the 5% per year decline in the Mexican oil fields production and we are looking at a potential of 3 years to total loss of control.

At that point we will see the general mexican population, NOT just the ones wanting American jobs, flooding across the border en mass. Southern Texas up to about San Antonio will probably be a lost cause, possibly a “no-go” area.

I am in Dallas and I am currently prepping a fallback to southern Missouri. Do I really think it will be that bad?

You betcha. If mexico goes belly up Texas will be nothing but a war. The current border violence will be nothing compaired to it.

19 posted on 02/24/2009 11:47:42 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Explodo
Wife and son and I visited Ixtapa in the 1980s-90s when we lived in the Twin Cities. It was great because Sun Country would take us to Zihautanejo in one hop, cutting through the BS of changing planes in Mexico City or elsewhere. Ixtapa beaches were and are great but I would not go back there today.
In the mid 90s, we flew back via Mexicana through Mexico City because we wanted to see the big museum and the pyramids. The hotel got us a car and driver for $25 for the day. After our tour, we were walking in the Pink Zone past a bank and there was a very young Mexican soldier with a Tommygun standing at the front door. Mexican police carried 870 Remingtons on every corner.
20 posted on 02/24/2009 11:48:54 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: mgc1122; All

Mostly 4 door pickups in Reynosa

Balacera en Reynosa - Noticias Cablecom

21 posted on 02/24/2009 11:54:38 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We cruised the Western coast of Mexico for four years back in the mid ‘90’s and Z town was one of our favorite spots.

Throughout nearly every coastal town (except parts of Mazatlan) we could walk at any time of day or night with confidence and more safety than in Seattle.

The only place we had to be careful about drug runners was a small bay just around the Southern corner of Banderas Bay.
They had high powered pangas to deliver drugs to Cabo San Lucas in Baja.

It was just an overnight anchorage if you didn’t want to do an overnight sail to Chamela, the next stop to the South.

Sometimes cruisers would report gunshots and bullets flying over their boats, an obvious message they should leave immediately, but I don’t remember any kidnappings or robberies taking place.

(One of my cruiser friends was a former power boat racer. He was so curious, he actually asked one of these panga drivers how fast they could make the trip and was astonished to hear that in the right sea conditions, they could average nearly 100 mph. This is OCEAN we’re talking about!)

It’s very sad to hear about the spread of the drug plague.

22 posted on 02/24/2009 12:12:18 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: Senormechanico
100 mph ! Sounds like wife's cousin here at Lake of the Ozarks. He has a 32 foot Fountain with twin 502s. It will do 100 and then some...
23 posted on 02/24/2009 12:17:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SwinneySwitch

Mexico will probably collapse in 6 to 12 months

In a bizarre way...this drug violence may actually make it harder to pass illegal alien amnesty....would be harder to liberalize allowing illegals in with all the drug cartels and the like.

Mexico is one big hellhole now

24 posted on 02/24/2009 12:34:55 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: AuntB; BGHater; La Lydia; jafojeffsurf; B.O. Plenty; skeptoid; Yellow Rose of Texas; ...


If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.

25 posted on 02/24/2009 12:34:58 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: Ken H

Among the known or suspected chronic effects of marijuana are:

1. short-term memory impairment and slowness of learning.

2. impaired lung function similar to that found in cigarette smokers. Indications are that more serious effects, such as cancer and other lung disease, follow extended use.

3. decreased sperm count and sperm motility.

4. interference with ovulation and pre-natal development.

5. impaired immune response.

6. possible adverse effects on heart function.

7. by-products of marijuana remaining in body fat for several weeks, with unknown consequences. The storage of these by-products increases the possiblilties for chronic, as well as residual, effects on performance, even after the acute reaction to the drug has worn off. Of special concern are the long-term developmental effects in children and adolescents, who are particularly vulnerable to the drug’s behavioral and psychological effects. The “amotivational syndrome,” characterized by a pattern of energy loss, diminished school performance, harmed parental relationships, and other behavorial disruptions, has been associated with prolonged marijuana use by young persons. Although more research is required, recent national surveys report that 40% of heavy users experience some or all of those symptoms.

26 posted on 02/24/2009 12:40:21 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Seems to me that it would be a lot easier and quicker for people to simply quit smoking pot if they care as much about the violence as they claim.

Compared to all the wasted years of trying to legalize it have amounted to nothing but simply saying no can be accomplished immediately.

27 posted on 02/24/2009 1:06:50 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
As far as the drugs are concerned I just don't care anymore and this attempt to mastrubate about drugs on any thread about Mexico is more than just a little tiresome.

45 posted on 02/15/2009 10:45:19 AM PST by cripplecreek


This is a bust! Keep those hands where we can see them!

28 posted on 02/24/2009 1:28:47 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

We go to Zih about 4x each year. Great place, nice people. The druggies are not local...most come from Michoacan, the state to the north.
We’ll still go, but I’ll stay away from the police station in the future.
Soldiors/sailors with M-16’s on the what...they’ve been there for the 20-30 years we’ve been going to Mexico. It’s a different society. Get used to it.
Shame is that the entire drug problem is due to US drug policies, and a lot of organized crime on both sides of the border who know how to make a profit from prohibition.
If marijuana was legalized...taxed...sold like booze with similar controls and penalties...the major profit source for the druggies would disappear. Not a perfect solution, but maybe less damage to our society than the current situation.

29 posted on 02/25/2009 9:22:07 PM PST by robertreno (Sorry to see the druggies hitting Zih...need to legalize pot.)
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