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Prince of Darkness Denies Own Existence (punkneo still has no visible means of support)
Washington Post ^ | Friday, February 20, 2009; A03 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 02/24/2009 1:27:22 PM PST by Liz

Listening to neocon mastermind Richard Perle, there's a sense of falling down the rabbit hole. Perle was the ideological architect of the Iraq war and of the Bush doctrine of preemptive attack. But at a forum of foreign policy intellectuals, hosted by National Interest magazine, he created a fantastic world in which:

1. Perle is not a neoconservative. 2. Neoconservatives do not exist. 3. Even if neoconservatives did exist, they certainly couldn't be blamed for the disasters of the past eight years.

"There is no such thing as a neoconservative foreign policy," Perle informed the gathering. So what about the 1996 report he co-authored, widely seen as the cornerstone of neoconservative foreign policy? "My name was on it because I signed up for the study group," Perle explained. "I didn't approve it. I didn't read it."

Mm-hmm.

And the two letters to the president, signed by Perle, giving a "moral" basis to Middle East policy and demanding military means to remove Saddam Hussein? "I don't have the letters in front of me," Perle replied.

Right.

Perle was chairman of Bush's Defense Policy Board---and a leading cheerleader for the Iraq war-----predicting that the effort would take few troops and last only a few days, and that Iraq would pay for its own reconstruction.

The president clearly took the advice of Perle and his fellow neocons.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: kristol; neocons; richardperle
Perle is a breathtaking fraud. His mouthing lie after lie easily exposes this punkneo as a charlatan. What's more outrageous, Perle's words evidence his elitist, unmitigated contempt for American and Americans, and for those who dare reveal his self-absorbed pomposity and falsity.

What does this guy do for a living the working class taxpayer might ask? He seems to do nothing but roam the world, write stupid books, and make idiotic statements. Oh wait----let's not forget Perle is going into the oil business in Iraq-----thanks to his war profiteering---the trillions of tax dollars (and rivers of young blood) deposited there. Nice to know US taxpayers made the area safe for Perle's business ambitions (gag).

It would be a challenge to determine who is more nauseating---Poobah Perle or his comrades in arms.

MY NOMINEE

Winner of the 2008 Best Election Night Performance Award in the category of:
"I Know Nothing About this Republican Disaster."


Billy Kristol (McC campaign mastermind)

"Thank you very much. But I could not have done it without the help of all the
punkeos--David Frum, Michael Gerson, David Brooks, Richard Perle.....and
my Dearest Daddy."

"Sniffle---my Dearest Daddy (who was Giuliani's foreign policy advisor) said,
"The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism is.....to convert the
Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their
respective wills,
into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to
governing a modern democracy."

"Sob."

"I especially want to thank punkneo Douglas Feith for faking documents on his
home computer so we punkneos could dupe the president."

"Without Doug we would not have been able to transfer trillions of US dollars
into the Mideast, into the pockets of war profiteers, which enabled Richard Perle
to startup an oil business in Iraq with his cut."

Kristol smirked: "Making Iraq safe for Perle's oil business with US tax dollars was truly a noble punkneo effort."

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COMMENTS The political entrail readings showed the crucial conservative base stayed home.........too bad the pukes "forget" to tell McC that would be one outcome of the punkneo-RINO bi-partisanship. Be aware that many senior neocons are rank opportunists who squatted in the Repub Party for their stealth purposes-----they are actually former Trotskyites that flew the coop when Stalin executed their hero.

AS FREEPER TADSLOS COGENTLY POSTED: "People forget that candy-ass Kristol, and his crony, metro-sexual Brooks are the original makeover artists for McCain post-2000. They are McC's original groomers and media switch operators.....obsessed with religious cleansing of the party. Kristol at his most smirkiest---urging McCain to fire his 2008 staff, to start all over at the 11th hour, as McC's numbers tanked. Shows how how ill-conceived, advised, equipped and poorly managed McC's campaign was. But then, what else to expect from a Republican candidate made up of neopunks Kristol and Brooks."

Kristol championed McCain early in the election cycle to push his boy to the nomination. Kristol "support" for Palin had nothing to do with conservatism and everything to do with gauging the political winds to get his maverick liberal senator elected president. Kristol is the media poster boy for why D.C. plutocrats are completely out of touch with the rest of the country.

Watching Kristol smirking and squirming in his Fox seat on election night as McC lost his bid for the presidency was a consolation prize to this abortion of a 2008 election cycle.

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Not to worry.......next week Kristol’ll be blowing whichever way the Beltway Winds are blowing......sucking up to Obama. Kristol went from Dem Moynihan's staff to Repub Quayle's, from The Weekly Standard to the NYT, from Bush to RINO Giuliani to McCain. And the pukeneo is still secretive as ever....smirking and spewing blue-blood beltway Republicanism, and kicking conservatives to the curb..........

1 posted on 02/24/2009 1:27:22 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz

Most don’t pay any attention to Kristol or Perle. Only inside the beltway types, and some political junkies.


2 posted on 02/24/2009 1:30:12 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Liz
I've got to admit that during the time between 9/11 and 2005 I had a great deal of respect for these "Neocons" (Perle and entourage). I appreciated their disdain for the UN, the EU and them staunchly making the case against Saddam (I consider his removal right). But Perle and his groomed protege Chalabi are nothing but frauds. Opportunists who denounced the war effort the moment it didn't go their way.

Perle and Ledeen lost me completely the moment I learned of their cooperation with the terrorist Islamomarxist MEK cult.

3 posted on 02/24/2009 1:33:22 PM PST by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: Liz

What doesn’t exist is Dana Milbanks intelligence nor integrity...


4 posted on 02/24/2009 1:35:24 PM PST by Professor_Leonide (I said to the young man who showed me a photo, "Who can ever be sure what is behind a mask?")
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To: Badeye; calcowgirl; Condor51
Most don’t pay any attention to Kristol or Perle. Only inside the beltway types, and some political junkies.

Mmmmmmm.............and several presidents. How else could they get trillions of dollars blanketing Mideast hellholes?

5 posted on 02/24/2009 1:38:06 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't exist." - Verbal Kint in The Usual Suspects
6 posted on 02/24/2009 1:43:21 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Repeal the 16th!)
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To: SolidWood
.....Perle and his groomed protege Chalabi are nothing but frauds.....

Marcus Tullius Cicero---Roman Statesman---Speech in the Roman Senate - 42 BC

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.

7 posted on 02/24/2009 1:45:32 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Professor_Leonide

I’m still searching for Milbanks’ articles about Obama’s corrupt Chicago roots, his misrepresentations and utter lies during the campaign, his refusal to produce his birth certificate, college and medical records, his shady house/property deals and on and on.


8 posted on 02/24/2009 1:46:50 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Liz
Thanks, Liz, for the post and commentary.

Most excelent, as usual.

9 posted on 02/24/2009 1:48:50 PM PST by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Liz

They spent that money as bribes so as to not have to deal with the problem.


10 posted on 02/24/2009 1:52:41 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Liz
"The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism is.....to convert the
Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their
respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to
governing a modern democracy."

That little tidbit explains so much.

By modern, I assume he means one where he and his cronies hold the puppet strings.

11 posted on 02/24/2009 1:57:50 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz
.....Perle and his groomed protege Chalabi are nothing but frauds.....

The punkneos cut their politics to fit their hidden agenda. The "Uriah Heep Factor" kicked in big time.

Conservatives were aware that the "Uriah Heeps" were plotting and planning to co-opt conservatives for their own hidden agendas------and were obsessed with religious cleansing of the Repub Party. The Uriah Heeps manhandled social conservatives----and diluted the party for their own self-serving agendas.

Dickens' Uriah Heep was notorious for wielding undue influence, a bounder who was always planning and plotting, ingratiating himself into the confidence of others. Uriah was obsequious, manipulative, and wormed his way into positions of influence. Uriah was a consummate con man, and not to be trusted. Translated into the language of the popular culture, the Uriah Heeps manipulated and used conservatives to advance their own agendas and ambitions.

The neopunks smelled the power of conservatives, and grew in their desire to exercise control over the Republican party, and to kick so/con conservatives to the curb.

The Uriah Heeps' sense of entitlement fed on the victories of others. They become more and more power-hungry and will deploy their self-serving strategies to selfish purposes. These charlatans bring harm to conservative interests, to the rights of the unborn, religious freedom, the restoration of American culture.

At their very core----the Uriah Heeps evince an elitist, unmitigated contempt for religious conservatives, and all we stand for, but held their noses, and co-opted the party for their self-serving purposes.

12 posted on 02/24/2009 2:01:51 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: calcowgirl
This little tidbit explains so much.......... DADDY KRISTOL "The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism is.....to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy." ..... By modern, I assume he means one where he and his cronies hold the puppet strings....

N-i-c-e deconstruction.

13 posted on 02/24/2009 2:08:12 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Designer

You’re very welcome.


14 posted on 02/24/2009 2:11:53 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz

It could also be read into his use of the word “suitable.”

:-)


15 posted on 02/24/2009 2:30:22 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

The neocons poisoned the well for the GOP. Now they are running for cover. I am hopeful that the GOP will totally disavow the neocons and their disastrous obsession with foreign warmaking. We don’t need to go looking for trouble halfway across the world when we have plenty of enemies right here.


16 posted on 02/24/2009 2:55:09 PM PST by gorilla_warrior
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To: calcowgirl

Translated from the neocon, “we gonna takeover the party and get rid of those loathsome religious conservatives.”


17 posted on 02/24/2009 3:02:23 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: gorilla_warrior

They’ll find other ways to enrich themselves and accomplish the money laundering.

Getting on the global warming and green energy bandwagon will be just one.


18 posted on 02/24/2009 3:03:46 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Liz

I think they’ve pretty much targeted conservatives, religious and otherwise.

Why discriminate? ;-)


19 posted on 02/24/2009 3:05:18 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: gorilla_warrior; calcowgirl
........ neocons poisoned the GOP well. Now they are running for cover. I am hopeful the GOP will disavow them and their disastrous obsession with foreign warmaking.........

More than that----conservatives will NOT back any candidate UNLESS they publicly disavow neocons.

Despite Perle's convenient "memory lapse"----these connivers led the US over a cliff into Iraq.

In any other country, the pukes would be kaput---put in front of a firing squad.

20 posted on 02/24/2009 3:13:34 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz

Even IF the war had been bad policy, not launching blood purges of defeated politicians and their advisors is what separates us from the status of a banana republic.

If you want to throw accusations of treason around, or other crimes, fine, but be prepared to make your case, rather than just huffing that you don’t like the way it worked out, and someone ought to be shot for displeasing you.


21 posted on 02/24/2009 3:16:34 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: calcowgirl
.......they’ve pretty much targeted conservatives, religious and otherwise.....

They have a particularly virulent hatred for religious conservatives.

22 posted on 02/24/2009 3:17:15 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Philo-Junius
If you want to throw accusations of treason around, or other crimes, fine, but be prepared to make your case.....

Thanks for the needless advice.......the punks have made the case for their crimes far better than any of us could ever make.

23 posted on 02/24/2009 3:23:17 PM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz

O.k. For what crime are we convicting them without trial that merits death?

That shouldn’t be hard to answer.


24 posted on 02/24/2009 3:27:19 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Liz

O.k. For what crime are we convicting them without trial that merits death?

That shouldn’t be hard to answer.


25 posted on 02/24/2009 3:27:55 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Philo-Junius; Liz
O.k. For what crime are we convicting them without trial that merits death? That shouldn’t be hard to answer.

Of course, she said no such thing.

Nice try.

26 posted on 02/24/2009 4:15:42 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

O.k. What crimes at all, then?


27 posted on 02/24/2009 4:20:20 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: calcowgirl; Condor51

The thought of Perle (and this twerp Feith)
running around our White House is nauseating.

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To understand the fix we're in----try to catch CBS' 60 Minutes segment with pukeneo Douglas Feith--originally aired circa 2008.

GET OUT YOUR BARF BAGS Punkneo Feith was on the US gov't payroll as Undersecretary of Defense (gag and hurl).

The 60 Minutes segment was proof-positive that pukeneo Feith is a self-affirming space cadet. If Feith found a parking spot near the White House it would be tantanmount to a miracle. That he was allowed to make WH policy for the US is appalling.

Feith showed a conman's adeptness at using 60 Minutes' Steve Kroft's penetrating questions to deflect blame for the costly, bloody Iraq disaster on everyone but himself and the pukes---where it rightfully belongs.

Their involvement in disastrous US foreign-policy should have relegated neo-conservatives to the dustbin of history. The pukeneos flim-flammed the Washington establishment and did a whizbang job emptying the US Treasury into Mideast hellholes.

Americans need to know the mistakes we made that allowed these con artists to achieve the status they did.

60 Minutes should have mentioned the neo-cliques obsession with religious cleasing of the Repub party and their collaring Republican candidates for their own agenda------whenever McCain talked about The Hundred Year War his posture changed---as the neocons tightened his leash. The neos are chomping at the bit to pull US gov't puppets into more Mideast debacles--like Iran.

One envisions Feith at his trusty home computer creating the required documents (as he did for the Iraq debacle).

The neos' screwball “national greatness” brainstorm (global intervention) was NOT ever mentioned in Repub campign speeches. McCain kept quiet about “national greatness” if he knows what's good for him.

Hey, the neos play rough (if you don't obey).

60 Minutes needs to give viewers a reprieve from Feith's squalid flim-flam. Kroft needs to interview Dr Stephen Sniegoski, author of the excellent book, "The Transparent Cabal" ranked in Amazon's top 100 for 21st-century US history books.

60 minutes can remedy an oversight and begin an open discussion of how the neos hijacked US foreign policy. It would be a shame if authentic intellectuals like Dr Sniegoski did not get the same media facetime a charlatan like Feith got, just because Dr Sniegoski is not media-connected (and has no hidden agenda).

EMAIL 60m@cbsnews.com

28 posted on 02/25/2009 6:06:36 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
Perle is a breathtaking fraud. His mouthing lie after lie easily exposes this punkneo as a charlatan

Richard Perle is a bottom feeding, scumbag, leech. His (cough) 'loyalties' are to no one but himself and his cabal of neocon cohorts.

"Series", I cannot express my true feelings about that (blank) or this would happen in a New York minute...


"Post 'x' has been removed by the moderator"
and then..

"This account has been banned or suspended"

Anyway, I don't know what 'crimes' he committed . But what he and his cabal pulled on Rummy and Dubya was at the least borderline conspiracy.

He should be expelled from the USA.

29 posted on 02/25/2009 7:58:26 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Liz
Why Doug Feith is walking around free beats the heck out of me.

From what I've read, on many occasions he Forged documents, then gave then to Condi Rice and the NSC as 'proof' that Saddam had all those WMDs and we needed to invade Iraq asap. But as we know, no legal action was ever taken against him (or the others who lied to Rummy and Dubya into the war).

Unbelievable.

30 posted on 02/25/2009 8:26:47 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51; calcowgirl
The president was clearly duped by Perle and the conniving neocons. Perle was (gag) chairman of Bush's Defense Policy Board---and a leading cheerleader for the Iraq war-----predicting that the invasion would take "just a few" US troops, last only a "few days," and that "Iraq would pay" for its own reconstruction.

Fast forward seven years later. Wading through rivers of spilled young blood, and trillions of US tax dollars blanketing the region---we still await seeing Iraquis throw roses at the feet of US troops----which the calculating pukeneos told Bush would happen when we "liberated" them.

Most telling---Perle, Feith, and the Kristols are still walking around, pontificating on US foreign policy---while Bush is effectively muzzled-----prevented from telling the sordid tale of the pukes in the WH.

There's something very wrong with this picture.

31 posted on 02/25/2009 8:27:35 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Condor51
LAUGH BREAK If you thought the war in Iraq was a good idea based on the idea of spreading freedom you’re an "idealist." If you thought it was a good idea because there is a ton of oil in that part of the world you're a "realist." If you thought both things you're a "neocon."

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HOLD THIS THOUGHT Pouring trillions of tax dollars and wasting young American lives to Iraq "made the region safe for pukeneo poobah Richard Perle to go into the oil business." Read on.

Richard Perle Linked to Iraq and Kazakhstan Oil Deal
Tuesday, July 29, 2008, by Susan Schmidt and Glenn R. Simpson
The Wall Street Journal (requires registration)
Copyright © 2008 Dow Jones & Company, Inc

EXCERPT Influential former Pentagon official Richard Perle has been exploring going into the oil business in Iraq and Kazakhstan, according to people with knowledge of the matter and documents outlining possible deals.

Mr. Perle, one of a group of security experts who began pushing the case for toppling Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein about a decade ago, has been discussing a possible deal with officials of northern Iraq’s Kurdistan regional government, including its Washington envoy, according to these people and the documents. It would involve a tract called K18, near the Kurdish city of Erbil, according to documents describing the plan. A consortium founded by Turkish company AK Group International is seeking rights to drill there, the documents say.

Potential backers include two Turkish companies as well as Kazakhstan, according to individuals involved. AK’s chief executive is Aydan Kodaloglu, who, like Mr. Perle, has been involved with the American Turkish Council, an advocacy group in Washington. (NOTE: RINO Guiliani's Texas law firm has two offices in Kazakhstan; he held a fund-raiser there for his failed presidential bid.)

Phyllis Kaminsky, who identified herself as the U.S. contact for Ms. Kodaloglu, said she herself was aware of the drilling plan but referred questions about it to Mr. Perle. “Richard would know the most,” Ms. Kaminsky said. “He is involved, I know that.”

People with knowledge of the discussions said they involve Alexander Mirtchev, a Washington consultant and adviser to the government of Kazakhstan, and an associate of his, Kaloyan Dimitrov. Mr. Perle has attended events promoting the interests of Kazakhstan, an oil-rich nation whose ruler, Nursultan Nazarbayev, is involved in a long-running U.S. investigation of 1990s-era oil-company bribery.

Mr. Perle has publicly lauded President Nazarbayev as “visionary and wise,” according to a publication distributed by the Kazakh embassy in Washington. Mr. Perle said by email that Mr. Mirtchev is a friend of his who once spent a night at his vacation home in France. Mr. Perle said Mr. Mirtchev is “justly…proud of his influence on the liberalization of the Kazakh economy.”

Asked about pursuing oil concessions, Mr. Perle said, “I am not involved in any consortium involving Mr. Mirtchev or Mr. Dimitrov, nor am I ‘framing plans for a consortium’” involving either one.

A lawyer for Mr. Dimitrov didn’t respond to questions about oil discussions.A spokesman for Qubat Talabani, the Kurdistan regional government’s representative in the U.S., confirmed that the envoy had been approached by Mr. Perle.

Kurdish authorities have been granting oil-drilling contracts even though Iraq’s central government and the Bush administration want them to hold off until a national oil law is passed. The K18 concession, which is estimated to hold 150 million or more barrels of oil, would potentially be operated by Houston-based Endeavour International, according to documents and people familiar with the discussions.

Mr. Perle also has explored obtaining an oil concession in Kazakhstan in tandem with a northern Iraq deal, according to people familiar with those discussions.

Mr. Perle, who was an assistant Defense secretary in the Reagan administration, is known for his strong support of Israel and hawkish views on arms control.

In the early days of the Bush administration, Perle was one of the most influential proponents of U.S. military action to oust Iraq’s President Hussein. Mr. Perle was chairman of the Defense Policy Board, which advises the Pentagon, but resigned in March 2003 amid criticism of his role as an adviser to a telecom company that was seeking U.S. government approval for a sale to Asian investors

Copyright © 2008 Dow Jones & Company, Inc http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121729971113092303.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

(NOTE WELL: While Perle led the Bush Admin's Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee (a group of influential advisers that meets regularly with the defense secretary and other top officials, has access to classified information and plays an important role in shaping military policy), Mr. Perle advised the American satellite maker, Loral Space and Communications (Loral's Bernie Schwartz was Clinton's pal), as it faced government accusations that it improperly transferred rocket technology to China (under Clinton).

Perle contacted the senior official at the State Department considering the Loral matter. Mr. Perle has said he contacted the official, an assistant secretary, Lincoln P. Bloomfield Jr., to inquire about the status of license requests by Loral to deliver the satellites that had been made for China.

(Odd that a "Bush Republican" was helping a Clinton Democrat---sounds kinda like pukeneo Lieberman's gambit---flacking McCain and writing a $100,000 check to the Dims at the same time.)

BTW, RINO Rooty Guiliani--the pukes first choice for 2008 president---is also involved in business dealings with Kazakhstan, an oil-rich nation whose ruler, Nursultan Nazarbayev, is involved in a long-running US investigation of 1990s-era oil-company bribery.

32 posted on 02/25/2009 8:41:00 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
You type too fast for me. I'm still working #31. I'll get back to you on this in a minute as soon as possible :-)
33 posted on 02/25/2009 8:47:52 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Condor51

No problem———just hurry it up (grin).


34 posted on 02/25/2009 8:53:58 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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To: Liz
I'm gonna go out of order here...
  1. Most telling---Perle, Feith, and the Kristols are still walking around, pontificating on US foreign policy---while Bush is effectively muzzled-----prevented from telling the sordid tale of the pukes in the WH. ... There's something very wrong with this picture.

    One of Dubya's 'faults' is his Loyalty to his 'friends', those he trusted or those he hired - like the stuttering Press Sec; Porky Pig. So IMHO it'll be years before Bush un-muzzles himself with a Book on what REALLY happened.

    Now, as to those 3 neocons -- especially 'little Billy' Kristol. What really, REALLY, fried my ___, was as soon as things turned bad with Bremmer and the "insurgents", that maggot deserted Bush and disowned the whole Iraq 'adventure'. The things he was saying on Brit Hume's Special report almost made my head explode. It was everyone's fault except the neocons.

  2. Fast forward seven years later. Wading through rivers of spilled young blood, and trillions of US tax dollars blanketing the region---we still await seeing Iraquis throw roses at the feet of US troops----which the calculating pukeneos told Bush would happen when we "liberated" them.

    Well, to be fair, after the immediate fall of Saddam and Baghdad, I do remember our troops being greeted with 'roses'. And on Fox they showed quite a few Iraqis who DID praise Bush. But it didn't last long, that's a fact. I don't know if it was the 1st guy Dubya sent or Bremmer who 'screwed the pooch' by firing all Baathist Party members from their jobs, but it was downhill from there.

    On thing for sure, as soon as that 'cleric' in Sadar City, Moktada al-Sadr, raised and released his Mahdi Army to kill and create havoc at will - he should have been 'Terminated With Extreme Prejudice'. That would have nipped the 'insurgency' in the bud. Then all Iraqis (and al-Qaeda) would have known the US wasn't screwing around and we'd shoot 'Unlawful Combatants' on sight. But no, we treated them with kid gloves and let the 'unrest' fester by fighting a 'P.C. War'.

    Another major problem with the war, was from the beginning, and that was created by ... Colin Powell. Thanks to him, and him alone, the 4th Infantry Division could NOT invade Iraq from the North as planned. While he dithered the 4th ID floated at sea for a month. Finally Turkey had enough of Powell's nonsense so the 4th ID had to come in from the South, like the 3rd ID had previously done. This created the deadly Sunni Triangle and Saddam's final place of refuge.

    If Powell had done HIS job the 4th ID would have met up with the 3rd ID around Tikrit in a pincer movement and all Baathist resistance would have been crushed. And all that loose ordinance wouldn't have been let laying around to make IEDs, AND we wouldn't have lost so many troops.
    (everyone forgets about Powell's screwup and the 4th ID having to float at sea.)

    So a lot of the mess can be laid at Colin's feet, but he's 'untouchable'.


35 posted on 02/25/2009 10:24:52 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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What really, REALLY, fried my ___.....as soon as things turned bad with Bremmer and the "insurgents," that maggot Kristol deserted Bush and disowned the whole Iraq 'adventure.' The things he was saying on Brit Hume's Special report almost made my head explode. It was everyone's fault except the neocons.

Another example of the elitist contempt in which these Me-First individuals hold America and the American citizenry.

The b**holes think they're invisible....smarter than everyone else.......and above reproach....always agitating for religious cleansing, political correctness and moral relativity.

They're like hordes of busy termites, chipping away at the substructures of American culture. Woe be to those who DARE shine a light on their nefarious sub rosa doings.

36 posted on 02/25/2009 11:01:28 AM PST by Liz (Problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people*s money. M. Thatcher)
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