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Republicans React to the Sort of SOTU
HumanEvents.com ^ | 2/25/2009 | Connie Hair

Posted on 02/25/2009 6:19:14 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama

At last night’s State of the Union address, HUMAN EVENTS was on the scene, talking to members from the House and Senate, getting strong reactions from Republicans to the new President’s first speech before a joint session of Congress.

Mike Pence (R-Ind.), chairman of the House Republican Conference, told me, “I was heartened by the President’s newfound optimism about the American economy. There is nothing quite as encouraging to the American people as having the American President come to the well of Congress and remind us that we’re Americans, we’ll get through this. I also appreciate the President’s call for fiscal discipline, but it was somewhat contradicted by a long laundry list of liberal spending priorities in areas like healthcare, education and energy. So there’ll be lots of opportunities for debate on those issues in the weeks and months ahead. Again we welcome the President’s call for fiscal discipline but it would be helpful to see the President begin to articulate the kind of budget changes and the kind of budget discipline that would make that a reality here on Capitol Hill.”

“I also was struck by what we didn’t hear,” Pence continued. “Number one, I think you’ll hear House Republicans overwhelmingly oppose any effort to raise taxes on the American people in a time of recession. More than half of the American people that pay taxes at or above the level the President announced tonight are small business owners who file individual tax returns. Raising taxes on small businesses is precisely the wrong prescription for recovery in an ailing economy. Secondly on that long list of energy priorities I didn’t hear the words domestic drilling. While greater conservation is important and efficiency is important, alternative sources of energy are important they are no substituted for giving the American people more access to American oil. The President’s failure to mention an expansion of our own domestic exploration for oil and natural gas was a glaring omission.”

In another potent reaction to the speech, Rep. Trent Franks (R-Az.) said, “Essentially he had us all bouncing our heads off of both sides of the canyon walls of philosophical reality when he went from on the one hand saying that we need to privatize personal Social Security accounts for everyone, which is essentially what George Bush said, and then on the other hand we need to nationalize the banks. For him to suggest that he wants to cut the deficit in half in four years when he’ll have tripled it in two months I find that a little bit of a roller coaster ride philosophically. And, of course, what I didn’t hear was how he plans to continue to protect this nation, as George Bush did, from the threat of jihadist terrorism.”

Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) told HUMAN EVENTS, “I’m concerned about the points that he made really that tell us big government is back. Whether it is cap and trade, whether it is cradle to grave education, whether it is universal health care, the era of big government is here. There is great concern over the amount of debt that we would end up accruing through this. You know it’s interesting that as you look at what happened with the stimulus bill, already the CBO estimate is that the debt ceiling would have to be raised to 12 and one-half trillion to accommodate that bill. We were at 10.7 as of January 3rd in our national debt. So that raises concerns for me. Now I think that we all understand that the nation is in recession, we all understand that the American people want something to be done. I have a philosophical disagreement with the President over what we do and how we approach that. I think our job is to have government create the environment in which the private sector and individuals can innovate and work our way out of debt. From the speech tonight you’re left believing that he sees government as the solution to this and philosophically I disagree with that.”

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tx.) reacted to the healthcare issues brought up by the President. Cornyn said, “I think he is right, healthcare is going to bankrupt the federal government, particularly insofar as Medicare… but we need to talk about the means to the end. If the means is to basically turn it over to the federal government, I don’t think that’s going to solve the problem, but if he’s interested in real reform, I’m happy to work on it.”

Rep. John Carter (R-Tx.) was concerned with the likelihood of Democrats raising taxes. Carter told me, “When you mention cap and trade, you must remember that’s a tax burden -- by their estimate about a $1.2 to a $1.5 trillion additional revenue from taxes. That’s a tax that we didn’t get told the value of. He may be able to say if you are a wage earner making $250,000 thousand a year and you won’t pay any more taxes, I don’t know, I’m skeptical. If you’re earning money from any other source than wages where you have to pay any types of capital gains I’m afraid you are going to pay a significant tax burden.”

Another Texas conservative was concerned about tax increases. Rep. Mike McCauley (R-Tx.) told me, “I think when you read between the lines on the taxes, what he didn’t tell you specifically is that there will be a tax increase on small business and families and that’s something that I don’t think Republicans are going to support.”

Jeff Flake (R-Az.) quipped, “I particularly liked [the President’s] statement that he’s not a fan of big government but, unfortunately, it was contradicted by a lot of what followed in the speech. There was some pretty big government outlined the rest of the time.”

Louie Gohmert (R-Tx.), listened to the speech with the booklet copy in hand, highlighting the parts he found interesting as the President spoke. Gohmert told me, “There were a couple of things that concerned me, for example, first we are creating a new lending fund that represents the largest effort ever to help provide auto loans, college loans and small business loans to consumers and entrepreneurs. Uh-oh, what are we talking about here? Is this a new Congressional bank because the last time we had a Congressional bank… I wasn’t here at the time, but I don’t think that worked out very well. I would hate to see us return to the same sad old tired policy of past administrations.

“I also want to check the line that basically says that healthcare in America is a cause of a bankruptcy in every 30 seconds,” Gohmert continued. “The judge in me wants to see the evidence that is actually what’s causing the bankruptcy every 30 seconds. I’m serious.

“I didn’t have this speech in advance, I was just going through while he was giving it, but this was a great line, and hardly anybody gave it much applause. He says, ‘We must also begin a conversation on how to do the same for Social Security.’ President Bush expended virtually all of his political capital in 2005 trying to reform Social Security… so I’m glad he brought that up. That’s a good thing. But then he adds, ‘while creating tax-free, universal savings accounts for all Americans.’ That’s fantastic, the Republicans should have been on their feet for that one I would have thought. That’s the way you encourage people to save for themselves. That’s good stuff. … Maybe Republicans were too stunned, I’m not sure.

“One of the problems that we’ve seen with the economy is a lack of confidence,” Gohmert continued. “He had the line toward the end, ‘Their resolve must be our inspiration, their concerns must be our cause and we must show them and our people that we are equal to the task before us.’ That’s a fantastic line. That’s great. That’s encouraging. And now if he’ll just quit saying ‘crisis’ every other paragraph or ‘catastrophic’ or ‘catastrophe’ or ‘worst since the depression’ -- if we can move those out and move forward knowing that we can fix what’s wrong, the I think we’re on our way to getting back healthy again.”

Connie Hair is a freelance writer, a former speechwriter for Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ) and a former media and coalitions advisor to the Senate Republican Conference.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhospeech; gopresponse; obama; rnc; sotu

1 posted on 02/25/2009 6:19:15 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama
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To: 2nd amendment mama

How the sheeple can listen to BO spout diametrically opposite philosophies and swallow it all without question shows how far America has been dumbed down. BO is not a fan of big government? - he really means he is fan of total government.


2 posted on 02/25/2009 6:24:35 AM PST by austingirl
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I really hate how they equate hot air blowing from either orifice to be equally good.

First, irresponsible spending/credit use is what got us into this mess, but we have to make the consumer confident so they will continue this irresponsible behavior to prop up our economy.

Second, We have lent money to people who irresponsibly borrowed more than they could afford, but to stop the housing crisis, we need to help them temporarily afford those mortgages to keep the housing market from declining further.

Third, We have to cut the deficit because it is unsustainable, but first we have to make it twice the size it already is to put people back to work with jobs that will disappear as soon as the work is finished.

Does anyone elses head hurt?


3 posted on 02/25/2009 6:25:41 AM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I skimmed this. Did I miss the part where EVERY Republican said: “Before I continue behaving as if this man is POTUS, I want to see his birth certificate and his college applications and other records?”


4 posted on 02/25/2009 6:25:49 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Legacy climate change.
5 posted on 02/25/2009 6:27:11 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

mark


6 posted on 02/25/2009 6:27:52 AM PST by Christian4Bush (Good & bad of a 2/22 Bday. Good-G. Washington born, US d. USSR, hockey, 1980. Bad-Ted Kennedy born.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I skimmed this. Did I miss the part where EVERY Republican said: “Before I continue behaving as if this man is POTUS, I want to see his birth certificate and his college applications and other records”?


7 posted on 02/25/2009 6:28:33 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: 2nd amendment mama

When is someone going to talk about the current Fiscal Year Omnibus Appropriations Bill coming out of the house with 9000 Earmarks totaling $5 Billion.


8 posted on 02/25/2009 6:30:10 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

What is wrong with these people!!!!

Can’t they see through this crap? As always it is going to take WE THE PEOPLE!!! to stand up to this sh*t.

The republicans should have walked out of there.


9 posted on 02/25/2009 6:30:48 AM PST by waxer1 ( Live Free or Die; Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Like Obama suits, his speech was full of empty optimism. Calling for "fiscal restrait". What a JOKE. As usual, praise and Obama worship from media covers up for Obama's LACK of substance.

Makes me wanna PUKE!

10 posted on 02/25/2009 6:31:53 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama
In another potent reaction to the speech, Rep. Trent Franks (R-Az.) said, “Essentially he had us all bouncing our heads off of both sides of the canyon walls of philosophical reality when he went from on the one hand saying that we need to privatize personal Social Security accounts for everyone, which is essentially what George Bush said, and then on the other hand we need to nationalize the banks. For him to suggest that he wants to cut the deficit in half in four years when he’ll have tripled it in two months I find that a little bit of a roller coaster ride philosophically. And, of course, what I didn’t hear was how he plans to continue to protect this nation, as George Bush did, from the threat of jihadist terrorism.”

Can we have Trent for President?

11 posted on 02/25/2009 6:33:21 AM PST by CAluvdubya (WASS-----FUBO!)
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To: waxer1
What is wrong with these people!!!!

Well they're sucking up for whatever pork that can get there hands on...

12 posted on 02/25/2009 6:35:11 AM PST by Doofer
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To: wombtotomb
"Does anyone elses head hurt?"

No, just my stomach from all that retching up bile.

Now lets see where the markets go this first 15 mins...

13 posted on 02/25/2009 6:35:44 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama
We can only 'hope' that the Republicans serving in Congress will ban together and continue the good fight.

Conservative Republicans must win enough seats in 2010 to outnumber Democrat seats in Congress in order to put the brakes on and reverse the downward spiral of Socialism/Marxism.

14 posted on 02/25/2009 6:37:02 AM PST by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: wombtotomb
HA! Just as I thought dow is down -34 and the bell just rang.
Nasdaq down -10
S&P -4.6
15 posted on 02/25/2009 6:37:39 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama
No they did not... the repubics puckered up and kissed obama butt!

LLS

16 posted on 02/25/2009 6:41:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dow -45,br> Nasdaq -12.97
S&P -5.61
17 posted on 02/25/2009 6:41:54 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dow -54.08
Nasdaq -13.24
S&P -6.62

Dropping like a stone. looks like it's going to be Another Obama (half)black Wednesday.

18 posted on 02/25/2009 6:45:49 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama
My guess is that Zero and his politburo have designs on everyone's IRA accounts. 'Privatize' my ass !

Nam Vet

19 posted on 02/25/2009 6:49:16 AM PST by Nam Vet (This space for rent............Hard currency only)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Dow now down 79. Where da hope at?


20 posted on 02/25/2009 6:51:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dow -80.45
Nasdaq -15.82
S&P -8.95
21 posted on 02/25/2009 6:53:25 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ScottinVA

As long as Obama is the usurper in chief, it’s hope-less.


22 posted on 02/25/2009 6:56:25 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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Dow: -91.20
Nasdaq: -16.53
S&P: -9.70
23 posted on 02/25/2009 6:59:41 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I heard there was no mention of the Islamic terrorist threat this time. I guess its no threat anymore.


24 posted on 02/25/2009 7:00:27 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on Senators --- Will Rogers)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dow: -105.86
Nasdaq: -19.90
S&P: -11.76
25 posted on 02/25/2009 7:01:31 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dow: -122.34
Nasdaq: -22.55
S&P: -12.97
26 posted on 02/25/2009 7:03:05 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama
SOTU?

FUBO!

27 posted on 02/25/2009 7:03:54 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Dow: -133.02
Nasdaq: -26.03
S&P: -15.16
28 posted on 02/25/2009 7:04:40 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

I give up. I can’t keep up.

I’ll just post them every -100 drop, which should be about every 5 mins.


29 posted on 02/25/2009 7:06:32 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

It does seem that every time bho speaks the DOW tanks. I wish he would just SFU and lock himself in the Whitehouse for the next four years.


30 posted on 02/25/2009 7:12:38 AM PST by jjones9853
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To: Doofer

I dunno, they sounded pretty scathing for politicians. Velvet hammer stuff. What did ya’ll expect? The new ‘Hip-hop GOP’?

“Yo! F*ck dat. O is a POS, and frikken lying, Holmes!”

They’re congresscritters, they set the stage for dissent, fireworks show up later.


31 posted on 02/25/2009 7:13:32 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: jjones9853

No Kidding. Every freakin’ time! DOW seems to have slowed it’s freefall at -147. Still, that down amost 400 points since opening friday, thanks to Obama’s big mouth.


32 posted on 02/25/2009 7:16:53 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: jjones9853

oops, spoke too soon. I guess Traders just stopped to take a breath, dow -163.


33 posted on 02/25/2009 7:17:59 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Pence:
“I was heartened by the President’s newfound optimism about the American economy.

Oh for crying out loud, Mike. I once thought you were quite bright. I was not 'heartened' by the usurper coming out lying through his teeth. He simply repeated what the K'Toon told him to say. Sheesh! Do we have to explain everything to you people?

Gohmert:
I was just going through while he was giving it, but this was a great line, and hardly anybody gave it much applause. He says,
‘We must also begin a conversation on how to do the same for Social Security.’
President Bush expended virtually all of his political capital in 2005 trying to reform Social Security… so I’m glad he brought that up.

That’s a good thing. But then he adds,
‘while creating tax-free, universal savings accounts for all Americans.’
That’s fantastic, the Republicans should have been on their feet for that one I would have thought. That’s the way you encourage people to save for themselves. That’s good stuff. … Maybe Republicans were too stunned, I’m not sure.

Word of advice Rep. Gohmert, DO NOT support the usurper if he attempts to do what you all fought President Bush doing.

Franks:
“Essentially he had us all bouncing our heads off of both sides of the canyon walls of philosophical reality when he went from on the one hand saying that we need to privatize personal Social Security accounts for everyone, which is essentially what George Bush said, and then on the other hand we need to nationalize the banks.

For him to suggest that he wants to cut the deficit in half in four years when he’ll have tripled it in two months I find that a little bit of a roller coaster ride philosophically. And, of course, what I didn’t hear was how he plans to continue to protect this nation, as George Bush did, from the threat of jihadist terrorism.”

Had I known PRESIDENT Bush was going to speak, I may have watched "the speech" last night.

BTW Franks, I hope you show as little respect to the current pres__ent (president without the ID *) as you do the former. Also, I just checked and it turns out Louie Gohmert and Jeff Flake are current Representatives in the House.



h/t musicman

34 posted on 02/25/2009 7:28:29 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Long on rhetoric !

Short on truth.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

35 posted on 02/25/2009 7:35:20 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
I dunno, they sounded pretty scathing for REPUBLICAN politicians. Velvet hammer stuff. What did ya’ll expect?

Perhaps we were simply hoping for a little of what we have had to endure the past 8 years.

36 posted on 02/25/2009 7:37:20 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Did I miss the part where EVERY Republican said:
“Before I continue behaving as if this man is POTUS, I want to see his birth certificate and his college applications and other records?”

Nope, you didn't miss it. IMHO, they have rolled over and are playing dead to this issue in hope that we will not be subjected to the Kenyan Odinga treatment. They are simply submitting for the good of national security and the chilluns, dontcha know.

37 posted on 02/25/2009 7:39:55 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
When is someone going to talk about the current Fiscal Year Omnibus Appropriations Bill coming out of the house with 9000 Earmarks totaling $5 Billion.

One iceberg at a time, ORAG.

38 posted on 02/25/2009 7:42:07 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
When is someone going to talk about the current Fiscal Year Omnibus Appropriations Bill coming out of the house with 9000 Earmarks totaling $5 Billion.

One iceberg at a time, ORAG.

39 posted on 02/25/2009 7:44:29 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody

As I said, they’re setting a stage. Several quotes said, in very bland language, that Republicans would be opposing the things Obama wants. Why go all hyperbolic when just being politely blunt gets the job done?

Do have infinite faith that they’ll stand against EVERY Obama plan? No. But going off the deep end and then not backing it up really kills credibility.


40 posted on 02/25/2009 7:54:55 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

We have descended to an American Idol form of governance — who cares if the song is sh*tty so long as it is belted out well? Bobby Jindhal had a great message for the American people, but it will be lost in the waves of criticism for his personal style and deliverance. Barfsack shovelled his usual manure with aplomb and is lionized; Bobby preaches reason and restraint in a lackluster manner and makes himself fodder for Saturday Night Live for years. Alinsky wins and we lose.


41 posted on 02/25/2009 8:14:08 AM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice in these troubled times.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

BTTT


42 posted on 02/25/2009 1:00:01 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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