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Holder continues his attack on 2nd Amendment
foxdfw ^ | 02/25/09 | fox

Posted on 02/25/2009 7:48:39 PM PST by TornadoAlley3

At a press conference today announcing the drug cartel arrests (in which he had little to no involvement), US AG Holder also suggested that re-instituting a U.S. ban on the sale of assault weapons would help reduce the bloodshed in Mexico, where last year 6,000 people were killed in drug-related violence.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; agenda; assaultweapon; banglist; bho2009; bho44; bhobanglist; bhodoj; bradywatch; cw2; cwii; cwiiping; democrats; gunrights; holder; lping; shallnotbeinfringed; wod
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1 posted on 02/25/2009 7:48:39 PM PST by TornadoAlley3
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To: TornadoAlley3

Molon Labe


2 posted on 02/25/2009 7:49:12 PM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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Exact quote “As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons,” Mr. Holder said. “I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum.”-Holder


3 posted on 02/25/2009 7:49:34 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: namsman

AR-15 ping!


4 posted on 02/25/2009 7:50:09 PM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hopefully the next 2nd Amendment case SCOTUS will address these issues so they can stop nickle and diming us.


5 posted on 02/25/2009 7:50:12 PM PST by karibdes (It's not a perfect world. Screws fall out.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
AWB2 is coming, bet on it.


6 posted on 02/25/2009 7:50:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Holder=CLUELESS.


7 posted on 02/25/2009 7:50:49 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (This Ain't No Party....This Ain't No Disco..)
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To: TornadoAlley3

I am going to make an assault on rib-tips, mojo sauce, lottery tickets, bling-bling, Kool cigarettes, as well as studded, shiny, and fur trimmed objects.


8 posted on 02/25/2009 7:51:01 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: TornadoAlley3

That’s a Mexican problem. My liberty is an American thing, no connection whatsoever.


9 posted on 02/25/2009 7:51:01 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Who gives a crap about how another countrys thugs get their weapons?!?!


10 posted on 02/25/2009 7:51:36 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, leaves the least BRD...)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Impeach the Fuhrer and his StormTroopers now!
11 posted on 02/25/2009 7:52:03 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: TornadoAlley3

You didn’t seem to care about the definition of “asault weapon” when it came to the FALN you two-bit phoney!


12 posted on 02/25/2009 7:52:37 PM PST by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: TornadoAlley3

Yes, Holder. Banning automatic weapons from Americans will definately keep them out of the hands of criminals in Mexico with the money to go to any market in the western hemisphere (or any other hemisphere) to buy their guns. Yet another example of stupidity from the Obamasiah Administration.


13 posted on 02/25/2009 7:52:59 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier presently instructing at Ft. Benning.)
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To: Axenolith

Rising in opposition this afternoon was Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), who said that despite his view of Holder as a good man, Holder’s lack of good judgment precluded him from supporting his confirmation. “I have high praise for Eric Holder as an individual and as a lawyer,” he said. “I believe certain aspects, however, of his record disqualify him from serving as attorney general.” Coburn noted that he didn’t believe Holder would adequately defend the First and Second Amendments.


14 posted on 02/25/2009 7:53:52 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Banning guns in the US will help reduce bloodshed in Mexico.

One of the most dumb-ass things that I have ever heard.

1. Who cares if it helps Mexico or not? We don’t set internal policies to help other nations.
2. Maybe some of the Mexicans being killed actually deserve to be killed, and perhaps some of those killed are good for US security.
3. We have a 2nd Amendment that preempts your attempts you stupid Marxist Trotsky-ite.


15 posted on 02/25/2009 7:54:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bamahead

So this is the approach they will take...

Without a sensationalized shooting involving “assault weapons” to point to, they are going to justify it by the violence in other countries.

Out of the desire of not being banned(or potentially arrested), I’ll say no more.


16 posted on 02/25/2009 7:54:52 PM PST by KoRn
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To: TornadoAlley3

Mexican drug-runner: “Hey vato, I need twenty AR-15’s.”

Mexican gun-runner: “Sorry, the U.S. just made all assault rifles illegal, you’ll have to wait for a Republican President to overturn this law.”

Mexican drug-runner: “Okay, I’ll just quit my job for now running drugs, and take that job at El Taco Hut, they’re paying $8/hr + benefits.”

The End.


17 posted on 02/25/2009 7:55:13 PM PST by adm5 (YOU CANNOT FIX CAPITALISM WITH SOCIALISM! -Glenn Beck)
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To: All
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

from ABC news, Obama /assault weapons ban.

18 posted on 02/25/2009 7:56:10 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I think Mexico already restricts the importation and sale of automatic weapons. Eric probably ought to go down there and check it out for himself.

Ciudad Juarez would be a good place to start.

19 posted on 02/25/2009 7:56:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: TornadoAlley3

During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.

“I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller,” Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual’s right to own a weapon.


20 posted on 02/25/2009 7:59:25 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
re-instituting a U.S. ban on the sale of assault weapons would help reduce the bloodshed in Mexico,

A pathetic excuse

These people are a dumb bunch of ...........

21 posted on 02/25/2009 8:01:00 PM PST by TYVets
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To: Travis McGee

I prefer CW2 easier to type.


22 posted on 02/25/2009 8:05:10 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: TornadoAlley3
... Holder also suggested that re-instituting a U.S. ban on the sale of assault weapons would help reduce the bloodshed in Mexico...

Unless Holder with his newly acquired, unrestricted global powers can place an blockade of Mexico to prevent the sales of weapons to Mexico's armed forces, organized drug-lords will still get their arms though the military's poorly guarded(wink, wink)armories.

They are getting fully automatic weapons and even hand grenades, which to my knowledge, WalMART does not stock.
23 posted on 02/25/2009 8:07:40 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: TornadoAlley3

how do OUR gun laws have a positive impact on Mexico?

This guy is a maaarooon.


24 posted on 02/25/2009 8:08:48 PM PST by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: SW6906

Because, of course, there are no AKs south of Mexico in Central America and the drug cartels wouldn’t know how to move them north if there were. /SARC

And since when are US citizens’ rights subject to what is happening in another country? Oh, that’s right, since the dumbed down American public elected a bunch of One World Socialists to run (ruin) this once great nation...


25 posted on 02/25/2009 8:08:49 PM PST by piytar (Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
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To: TornadoAlley3; bamahead; Travis McGee
""U.S. officials have a responsibility to make sure Mexican police are not fighting substantial numbers of weapons, or fighting against AK-47s or other similar kinds of weapons that have been flowing to Mexico,” Holder said."

This man is such a joke.

YOU CAN'T LEGALLY BUY AN "AK-47" HERE!!!!!

With regard to the "similar kind of weapons", is he talking about machine guns? It's about as difficult to buy one of those legally as it is to buy an AK-47 illegally.

This statement is nothing but a lame pathetic excuse to push his personal agenda. Folks, if you even remotely desire to own a firearm of the so called "assault weapon" type, buy it now. This tells us they are just looking for any dammed reason they can come up with to do it. If I were a betting man, I'd wager that we have less than a year until they go for the ban.

We can only hope there are enough pro-2nd amendment republicans, combined with just enough democrats that don't desire political suicide to stop it.

26 posted on 02/25/2009 8:10:11 PM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn
Reporters are not only whores, they are stupid whores. They don't know the difference between full-auto and semi-auto, and they don't want to know.
27 posted on 02/25/2009 8:11:31 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Banning guns in the US will help reduce bloodshed in Mexico.

Don't you know guns have supernatural powers?

28 posted on 02/25/2009 8:11:52 PM PST by oyez (People! You're being pimped!)
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To: txnativegop

We’ll see AWB2 before CW2.


29 posted on 02/25/2009 8:12:38 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Holder..this loser called us cowards. The moron hasn’t got a clue and this is just an excuse to disarm US citizens. This fool shouldn’t be in any public office much less Attorney General.


30 posted on 02/25/2009 8:12:45 PM PST by BlessingsofLiberty
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To: TornadoAlley3
“I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum.”-Holder

OMG.

31 posted on 02/25/2009 8:12:52 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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I’m pretty sure assault weapons are already illegal in Mexico, as are other firearms. That is the biggest cause of the violence plaguing our southern neighbors. The criminals are the only people with guns, which leaves innocent citizens helpless to fight back. I rather doubt it will spill over very far into Texas.


32 posted on 02/25/2009 8:15:12 PM PST by KarinG1 (You're just jealous because the voices don't talk to you.)
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To: Travis McGee

maybe, there are other things going on as well that might trigger it unfortunately.


33 posted on 02/25/2009 8:16:42 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: BlessingsofLiberty
Holder..this loser called us cowards. The moron hasn’t got a clue and this is just an excuse to disarm US citizens. This fool shouldn’t be in any public office much less Attorney General.

Calling us all cowards is not going to help him to peacefully disarm us. Quite the opposite.

34 posted on 02/25/2009 8:17:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: txnativegop

Choose your poison. We have got them all in stock.


35 posted on 02/25/2009 8:17:50 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TornadoAlley3

36 posted on 02/25/2009 8:18:15 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Travis McGee

all of them seem to be play these days unfortunately.


37 posted on 02/25/2009 8:20:14 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: TornadoAlley3; SW6906; karibdes; Travis McGee; ButThreeLeftsDo; Mengerian; SWAMPSNIPER; ...

Hey Holder. The Mexican thugs are also armed with mortars and RPGs. Did they get those from America also?


38 posted on 02/25/2009 8:21:34 PM PST by Enterprise (A Representative Republic - gone now. Foolish people.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Molon Labe


39 posted on 02/25/2009 8:22:45 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Holder is a lying punk! Those weapons are not coming from the US. They are coming from all over central and south America.

Hell...Chavez built an AK plant in Venezuela and has already said he was going to spread those weapons in Latin America to “help” the people.


40 posted on 02/25/2009 8:22:45 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: TornadoAlley3

Why is it OUR job to reduce the bloodshed in that sewer called Mexico? If the @$$holes at the border would do their job, guns wouldn’t be taken into Mexico. We’re already spending a fortune trying to handle Mexico’s poverty problem, I don’t think our Second Amendment rights should be trampled to stop THEIR bloodshed problem.


41 posted on 02/25/2009 8:23:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: adm5

Lol.


42 posted on 02/25/2009 8:24:39 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: I got the rope
The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today. "As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

"I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said. "And besides, you all are just a bunch of cowards anyway, so this should be easy to accomplish."


43 posted on 02/25/2009 8:34:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TornadoAlley3
I can't help but wonder why it is that the Mexican government can't seem to provide the necessary fire power to their law enforcement agencies, and yet the Obama administration seems to think it's our fault, that "their" bad guys are so well armed.

Yes something definitely stinks about all this.

44 posted on 02/25/2009 8:38:40 PM PST by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: Travis McGee
Russia to build 2 Kalashnikov factories in Venezuela by 2010
45 posted on 02/25/2009 9:10:54 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

Well I’m sure Holder won’t allow that!


46 posted on 02/25/2009 9:15:15 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Obama will seek these 4 elements in a gun bill

1. An expanded HR 45, gun owner licensing. All gun owners will have to have these licenses, even owners of facilimie weapons (AKA Airsoft and BB). Licenses will only be granted if the records of the applicant are clean (This includes misdemeanors from decades ago). Licensees will be required to hold $1 million in liability insurance. Possession of otherwise permitted weapons (See #3) without license is a felony.

2. Ammunition accountability... All ammo will be required to be microstamped and will be taxed $1/round. All non stamped ammo will be required to be turned in or thrown away. Possession of non-marked ammo is a felony. This part of the act also bans “Cop Killer” bullets.

3. Expanded “Assault Weapons” ban— This includes most all semiauto rifles, anything that can be “Bump Fired”, Semiauto handguns, and Semi-auto shotguns. It also includes pump-action shotguns and “Sniper Rifles” AKA your deer rifle. The AWB will also require people with “Prebans” to register their guns as Machine Guns, and that the tax stamp will go up to $10,000 per weapon, or turn it in without compensation...

4. Expansion of the Lautenbach amendment: Removes “Domestic Violence” as disqualifier to gun ownership, inserts any misdemeanor as disqualifer... Anyone with a misdemeanor on their record will be prohibited from owning a firearm. This includes DUI and traffic offenses, and offenses decades ago.

There you have it in a nutshell...


47 posted on 02/25/2009 9:19:21 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: TornadoAlley3

Holder is an idiot and not fit to hold the position he is in.

Also, if a ban is instituted, I’m cutting the Government off. No more guns for them from my company...

Mike


48 posted on 02/25/2009 9:19:45 PM PST by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Travis McGee

Sadly...your books are quite prescient.


49 posted on 02/25/2009 9:20:46 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

I guess they are too stupid to be warned off. What a train wreck is coming now.


50 posted on 02/25/2009 9:22:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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