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Gov. Jindal Follow-up: What Is 'Volcano Monitoring'? (we cannot possibly survive without it dude)
Live Science ^ | Wed Feb 25, 2009 | Andrea Thompson

Posted on 02/25/2009 8:09:40 PM PST by presidio9

After President Obama's speech on the economy last night, Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal criticized government spending in the stimulus bill, citing examples including "$140 million for something called 'volcano monitoring.'"

The $140 million to which Jindal referred is actually for a number of projects conducted by the United States Geological Survey, including volcano monitoring. This monitoring is aimed at helping geologists understand the inner workings of volcanoes as well as providing warnings of impending eruptions, in the United States and in active areas around the world where U.S. military bases are located.

Most of the money from the stimulus bill earmarked for monitoring (only about a tenth of the total going to the USGS) will go to modernizing existing monitoring equipment, including switching from analog to digital and installing GPS networks that can measure ground movements, said John Eichelberger, program coordinator for the USGS's Volcano Hazards Program. Much of the expense of this technology comes from the manpower required to make and install it, he added.

"Ultimately most of this creates jobs or saves jobs that would have been lost" to recent budget shortfalls Eichelberger told LiveScience.

When he heard Jindal's remarks, Eichelberger said he "was frankly astonished" that the governor would use this particular example, given his own state's recent brush with a catastrophic natural disaster.

Among the scenarios in which the USGS's monitoring can assist - the catastrophic eruption of Mount St. Helens on May 18, 1980, which killed 57 people (including a geologist monitoring the mountain) and was the deadliest and costliest volcanic eruption in U.S. history ($2.74 billion in 2007 dollars). This event was preceded by thousands of

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhospeech; gopresponse; jindal; volcanomonitoring
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To: muawiyah

And I would have a front row view. Imagine the pictures I could sell.


21 posted on 02/25/2009 8:23:33 PM PST by irishtenor (What if Pro Wrestling is real and all the rest of life is fake?)
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To: muawiyah

Actually, Belgian Jesuit Missionary Ferdinand Verbiest built the first (steam powered) automobile in China in 1672.


22 posted on 02/25/2009 8:24:45 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: muawiyah

Actually Rainer could have a massive slope failure with no earthquake or eruption whatsoever - it’s incredibly unstable and being eaten away from within by circulating hot acidic water.


23 posted on 02/25/2009 8:24:50 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Not to mention all the people walking up and down it all the time.


24 posted on 02/25/2009 8:25:49 PM PST by irishtenor (What if Pro Wrestling is real and all the rest of life is fake?)
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To: presidio9

actually..I thought he meant volcano monitoring here in Louisiana..


25 posted on 02/25/2009 8:29:03 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: presidio9
Alas, that was not a "production model".

The whole claim isn't "first car" but "first production model using a gasoline engine and kind of resembling what we would, today, call a car" ~ and there are a lot of claimants. Benz and Haynes were right close together.

At the same time they were hardly "inventing" the concept of the automobile. All that was happening was the creation of a production method for obvious applications ~ to wit, small gasoline engine on frame of carriage.

Otherwise these vehicles weren't much different than a locomotive.

26 posted on 02/25/2009 8:29:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Note to people in the Eastern Suburbs who are worried about this: Time to pack up in leave, if you are worried about this. If something like this happens, they have my sympathy, and I will certainly send a check to whatever trustworthy relief fund is available. But if we know the thing is going to erupt, and people chose to build homes there any way, I fail to see how this is my federal goverment’s problem any more than when some nutjob who can’t feed or house herself decides to have 14 kids or a bunch or rich people choose to build beach houses in a hurricane zone. I missed the part in the Constitution where it talks about a right to stupidity.


27 posted on 02/25/2009 8:30:33 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9

it should be in the regular budget if its a needed existing program.

thats the point.


28 posted on 02/25/2009 8:31:56 PM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: redpoll
Exactly. As I have been arguing.
“Proper spending” to stimulate is a false premise, constitutionally. It isn't the responsibility of the Feds to “stimulate” (read: selectively invest in, selectively reward) the economy. The only argument that can be made for it is if it is for national security, which it most certainly is not.

The “conservative” argument is not that the ‘economy needs to be stimulated ‘this way’ or ‘that way.’ It is that the economy needs to be UNCHAINED.

What the democrats are doing is shackling the economy with regulation, financial rewards for following risky/foolish ventures. Then, when the economy falls to its knees, they pretend they can't see the seven tons of chains each business is trying to run with, they claim it is the ‘running’ itself that is causing the stumbling and that it needs even more chains.

As I've said elsewhere, the rate and amounts of the spending are such that no one can pretend this is going to help the economy, not even Keynesians and socialists. This spending is designed to kill the economy and dole out lots of paybacks while sinking the knife in its back — all to ruin the economy so that the people demand a world economic ministry and a global currency.

29 posted on 02/25/2009 8:33:30 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (The Stimulus Package: Preamble to the Democrat's new Declaration of In Dependence)
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To: Williams

There also was a volcano that erupted last year (Kasatochi) that didn’t have it’s own monitoring equipment, as it had never had a confirmed historical eruption and the Alaska Volcano Observatory only has the money to monitor a few volcanoes. A couple fish and game scientists were on the island and were evacuated only 30 minutes before it violently exploded, by a passing fishing boat.


30 posted on 02/25/2009 8:34:06 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: BerniesFriend
actually..I thought he meant volcano monitoring here in Louisiana..

Actually, I have no problem with volcano monitoring in Louisiana. Sounds realitively inexpensive to me. In fact, since no one else wanted the job, I have appointed myself chief scientist in charge of volcano monitoring here in Manhattan. No status changes to report since I began monitoring. Send email for updates.

31 posted on 02/25/2009 8:34:12 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: muawiyah; All
The Automobile was invented by Leonardo da Vinci in 1465.

Maybe he was in America then.

Present Obama could not be wrong.

32 posted on 02/25/2009 8:34:18 PM PST by Syncro (Ti Ming -- Use Librally)
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To: Syncro
Leonardo was a time traveling child molester of course. He may have portrayed himself as Mohammad 7 centuries earlier.

Now, did he "invent the automobile" or just show someone a design for a 2009 Accent?

33 posted on 02/25/2009 8:35:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Syncro
The Automobile was invented by Leonardo da Vinci in 1465.

Leonardo's "invetions" are all irrelevant, because he never actually built most of them, and he never published his notes. Also, most of them don't actally work anyway.

I "invented" a time machines but I'm not telling you anything else about it.

34 posted on 02/25/2009 8:37:19 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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To: presidio9
You have to watch out being smug ~ although you wouldn't think Fairfax County Virginia had a volcano, the USGS building in Reston has a circular driveway in front.

It sits immediately atop one of those multimillion year old buried volcano plugs that dot Earth's surface.

We hope the pluton that threw that sucker up is totally dead but you never can tell.

35 posted on 02/25/2009 8:37:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Why would we want a world currency? WE already have one!


36 posted on 02/25/2009 8:39:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
When he was here in America inventing the car, I would imagine people considered that he had a accent.

Those that hung around the laboratory with him back home sounded much the way he did.

I don't think he was born in Kenya to a Muslim father.

37 posted on 02/25/2009 8:39:31 PM PST by Syncro (Ti Ming -- Use Librally)
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To: irishtenor

Hey neighbor! ; )


38 posted on 02/25/2009 8:40:17 PM PST by conservative cat (America, you have been PWNED!)
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To: Gondring
...he sounded like he was proud to be ignorant.

All I could hear was his hands.

What really bothered me about Jindal's performance was that a little rehearsal could have avoided a national/global embarrassment. Really, would it have been too much to have a dress rehearsal and critique the performance? I guess it was. Too bad for Bobby and the clueless GOP. Some people really need to lose their jobs.

39 posted on 02/25/2009 8:41:43 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: muawiyah
We hope the pluton that threw that sucker up is totally dead but you never can tell.

I guess you're right. Theoretically, we actually could spend $1,000,000,000,000 monoitoring every possible volcano everywhere. But the point is, that when one actually does erupt, we still can't do a thing about it anyway, so why bother. Only Superman can stop/reverse a major geological event.

40 posted on 02/25/2009 8:41:52 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam Is As Islam Does)
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