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Justices sympathetic to immigrant in ID theft case (How could this be?)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_identity_theft;_ylt=AiUXDt.EByBZ0MEjZZ7VuMJMEP0E ^

Posted on 02/25/2009 8:23:59 PM PST by indianyogi

WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court appeared poised Wednesday to rule that undocumented immigrants who use phony Social Security numbers to get work should not be considered identity thieves, even if those numbers belong to real people.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; idtheft; immigration; scotus
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1 posted on 02/25/2009 8:23:59 PM PST by indianyogi
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To: indianyogi

I think it’s time to start piss testing these so-called “judges” for drugs.


2 posted on 02/25/2009 8:25:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: indianyogi

wow.

has O gotten to them?


3 posted on 02/25/2009 8:26:00 PM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

9 more names to remember when the revolution comes


4 posted on 02/25/2009 8:26:23 PM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: indianyogi

Making up a phoney 10-digit number is not the same thing as stealing someone else’s identity. Still, I think illegals should be rounded up and ...


5 posted on 02/25/2009 8:26:30 PM PST by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: indianyogi

Just another “intent” thing.


6 posted on 02/25/2009 8:26:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: indianyogi; gubamyster; AuntB; Tennessee Nana
Undocumented workers commonly buy ID cards from forgers without any intention of invading someone else's privacy, he said.

Yeah, and the affected U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident is just "collateral damage." /sarc

7 posted on 02/25/2009 8:26:46 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: indianyogi

what if they get a credit card in another name and run up a million in debt? do the victims have to pay up?


8 posted on 02/25/2009 8:28:05 PM PST by GeronL (Hey, won't you be my Face Book friend??)
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To: indianyogi

OMG


9 posted on 02/25/2009 8:29:14 PM PST by Krodg
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To: muawiyah

Kind of like divining the voter’s intent.

Especially all those new 20 million Democrat voters.

It’s like this nation is TRYING to kill itself.


10 posted on 02/25/2009 8:30:44 PM PST by Old Sarge ("Remember, remember, the Fourth of November, the Socialist treason and plot...")
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To: GeronL

Hmmm..how do we get Judge Roberts info? Oh I know, just ask an illegal.


11 posted on 02/25/2009 8:31:14 PM PST by Krodg
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To: indianyogi

They broke the law to come here, took a job to which they were not legally entitled, and then immediately commited a fraud.

And, they’re not all innocently making up a Social Security number. Quite a few have used stolen, actual Social Security numbers.

Do I sense a trend, here?


12 posted on 02/25/2009 8:31:46 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: justiceseeker93
What is it you have been saying about SCOTUS and fraternizing?
13 posted on 02/25/2009 8:32:48 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I *LOVE* my Attitude Problem - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: indianyogi

Anyone who has watched questioning before is just making guesses in trying to figure out how the SCOTUS will rule on a case from questioning.

It was a natural and valid question - does the law require any intent, and if it does, does the government need to provide evidence of it. Of course, such things would mean nothing if our car slammed into a police cruiser, we would be charged with the enhanced crime of assault on a police officer, no matter what our intent might be. The rules are different for government employees, vs you and me.


14 posted on 02/25/2009 8:33:02 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: indianyogi

what the hell?

this violates the equal protection clause, 14th amendment.

so will every criminal meth=head, id fraud criminal have the right to get out now?


15 posted on 02/25/2009 8:37:49 PM PST by machogirl (not one of Rush's top-ten gal names)
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To: RegulatorCountry
As long as they don't steal my credit cards, they're welcome to deposit as much money on my social security number as they want. :)

Sometimes, you just gotta' laugh...

16 posted on 02/25/2009 8:39:29 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Texas_shutterbug

Better hope they don’t retire and start drawing on “their” Social Security before you do.


17 posted on 02/25/2009 8:40:27 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Texas_shutterbug
As long as they don't steal my credit cards, they're welcome to deposit as much money on my social security number as they want. :)

Just wait until they default on a big loan and your social security number is tracked back to your credit rating. You'll be having lots of fun.

18 posted on 02/25/2009 8:55:32 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Just A Nobody; mojitojoe; Polarik; STARWISE; ckilmer; null and void; Fred Nerks; LucyT; AJFavish; ..
What is it that you have been saying about SCOTUS and fraternizing?

What concerns me and other FReepers is the overt fraternizing of the SCOTUS justices with Obama, given the several cases challenging his constitutional eligibility to be president that SCOTUS has already considered and the other cases likely coming its way.

Judges shouldn't be socializing with people who are parties or attorneys in cases coming before them; to do otherwise violates the canons of judicial ethics.

I don't think you would be to happy if, for example, you were suing someone and you spotted your opponent hobnobbing privately with the judge(s) assigned to the case. An honest, ethical judge should never even create the slightest suspicion that he is partial to one side in a case before him or which will likely come before him.

19 posted on 02/25/2009 9:08:46 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: RegulatorCountry

The trend you are sensing is the government trying to avoid the social security revolt that would ensue if the average American knew their money has been stolen by letting illegals put some of it back under false pretenses.


20 posted on 02/25/2009 9:16:42 PM PST by willyd (My Driver's License is under Obama's Birth Certificate officer.)
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