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Posted on 02/26/2009 8:05:34 AM PST by bboop
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That’s a beautiful Confederate flag with all the battles named. I bet that did look like a power grab by the NE elites...
On January 21, 2009 I solemly lowered my 6’ x 4’ American flag that flew in front of my house,folded it as per the required procedure and put it away. In its place flies the Gadsden Flag. It will fly there until I get my country back.
My first thought: “Dont Tread on Me”
Those Patriots were way ahead of their time.
“Actually I was just thinking of this the other day what if we started using an alternate medium of currency instead of the US dollar. So say we privately made an entirely separate banking system to the federal government either through barter or say based on gold coins.”
Its illegal to create one’s own currency.
HOWEVER: If the “currency” stated, quite clearly,that it was not legal tender, and that it was good only at “participating places, void where prohibited”, etc, it might fit through the loophole. There is no law against creating one’s own “reward certificates”, coupons, gift vouchers, etc. Say, a coupon worth 10 points, participating businesses agree on an exchange rate but do not publish it, only publish the # of points needed for such-and-such and item.
I.e.: if the exchange rate is 20 points to the dollar, you could put up a sign saying “Use your FReeper Reward Points here! 1 20-oz bottle 7-up = 20 FReeper Points” or something along those lines.
Several historians have given similar reports on the "Bloody arm flag of Goliad" said to have been made by Captain Phillip Dimmitt. On December 20 1835 the first declaration of Texas independence was signed at Goliad in the chapel of the Presidio by members of Dimmitt's command then stationed at La Bahia. After signing, the group went into the quadrangle and "amidst rapturous hurrahs, the flag of Texas Independence was hoisted and unfurled to the wintry wind".
The flag was described as being made of white domestic, two yards long and one yard wide. "In the center was a sinewy arm and hand, painted red, grasping a drawn sword of crimson." The flag pole was made from a tall sycamore tree found on the banks of the San Antonio River.
Most of the accounts on this flag ceremony quote as their source of information, the memoirs of John James and Nicholas Fagan.
The Dimmitt flag has now become the accepted flag of Goliad and is frequently displayed by business houses around the Goliad Square.
The Goliad Massacre
On Palm Sunday, March 27, 1836, after being held captive for one week, the men were told to gather up their things. They thought that they were going to the port of Copano and then on to New Orleans. They were happy and singing. They knew that Colonel Fannin had returned from the Port of Copano the previous day. What they didn't know was that at 7:00 p.m. the pervious evening, Colonel Portilla had received word directly from Santa Anna to execute the men. About an hour after Portilla received the execution order from Santa Anna, he received another order from General Urrea to "Treat the prisoners with consideration, particularly their leader, Fannin, and to employ them in rebuilding Goliad."
At sunrise the able bodied men were formed in three groups and under very heavy guard taken out of the fort. One group was taken out on the San Antonio road, another on the Victoria road, and the other on the Copano road. The prisoners had little suspicion of their fate because each group had been given a different story as to where they were going. One group told that they were going to gather wood, another to drive up cattle and the they they were going to the port of Copano. At selected spots on each of the three roads from one half to three-fourths of a mile from the fort, the groups were halted. After they halted, the guards on one side stepped through the ranks so that all the guards were on one side, they turned and fired at very close range. Those men where not killed ran and were pursued by the cavalry.
The soldiers then came back to the fort and executed the wounded. There were about forty of them. Colonel Fannin was saved until last. He was taken outside the chapel, blind folded and seated in a chair. He made three requests, not to be shot in the face, his personal possessions sent to his family and that he be given a Christian burial. He was shot in the face, an officer took his personal possessions and his body was burned along with many of the other bodies. Not all bodies were burned, some were left where they died. There were 342 men who died in the Goliad Massacre, which is almost twice the number of men who died at the Alamo and San Jacinto combined. Twenty-eight men did escape from the three massacre sites and seventeen men's lives were spared. It is from the accounts of the men who escaped and were spared that we know what happened at Presidio La Bahia. Francita Alavez, the Angel of Goliad and the wife of General Urrea saved the lives of a number of the men.
Of the multiple banners that flew over DeWitt Colony territory and those under which DeWitt colonists served and died, this famous flag is one which originated solely within and is unique to the DeWitt Colony and a symbol of contribution of the region to the Texas Independence movement. The banner can be said to be the counterpart in concept and message of resistance as the early "Don't Tread on Me" flags of the American Revolution. Some say it was made from the white silk of the wedding dress of Empresario DeWitt's daughter, Naomi, and was flown by DeWitt Colonists reinforced by volunteers from the other settlements at the confrontation with the Mexican army in October 1835 over the Gonzales cannon (Battle of Gonzales). Other reports suggest it was made after the confrontation during the muster at Gonzales for defense of Texas and the assault on Bexar.
The Zavala Flag. Proceedings of the Texas Independence Convention of 11 Mar 1836: "On the motion of Mr. Scates, the Rainbow and star of five points above the western horizon; and the star of six points sinking below, was added to the flag of Mr. Zavala accepted on Friday last. Mr. Taylor introduced the following resolution: Resolved that the word "Texas" be placed, one letter between each point of the star on the national flag." The banner at left is most often depicted as the first official flag of the Texas Republic proposed by Vice-President of the new Republic of Texas, Lorenzo de Zavala. The proceedings appear to indicate that Zavala proposed a simple Lone Star flag which if white on blue was essentially that of Scott's flag of the War Party without the word "Independence," or the left part of Burnet's naval flag. It is unclear whether any of the proposed modifications including the indicated lettering were ever employed.
I’m buying that one.
I personally think all of the flags listed here on this thread should be carried and flown,with the Stars and Stripes carried front and center. After all,all of these flags represent the birth and sustenance of this country. I realize it’s quite a few flags...but they wouldn’t all have to be full-size-maybe just the Stars & Stripes. Just an idea..:)
Sweet...i’d like that one!
The original Sons of Liberty flag consisted of nine vertical stripes .... alternating red and white stripes and was banned by the Brits. At least one flag survived and is on display at the old state house in Boston.
The Sons then displayed the thirteen stripe flag.
I have been flying the Bennington flag since Jan 20th.
Great post, thanks, just fascinating.
Is that the pine tree flag?
First rate company ... Purchased my Bennington flag from them.
Try flagstuff.com and look under historical flags.
You can pay using PayPal. I have NEVER had any problems with PayPal. And I highly recommend flagstuff.com - they are superb! They answer their emails almost immediately, at least during working hours.
Thanks a lot for the info...
That’s the whole idea with Don’t Tread On Me - you’re SUPPOSED to be terrified of a rattlesnake!!
I was like a kid in a candy store trying to figure out what flag to fly for the next four years. Drove my wife crazy.
Narrowed it down to three flags .... Gadsden, Continental or the Bennington.
It was a gift so I couldn’t tell you. I’m sure it was bought on line though.
Thank you so much for posting the info and the picture. I really appreciate it. I know some folks who are flying the flag upside down, but personally I can’t do it. Glad to find such meaningful alternatives.
I prefer the Gonzales Flag my self. Simple and straight to the point.
LOL. That’s the one I love.
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