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Senate votes to give DC citizens vote in Congress
Associate Press ^ | February 26, 2009 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 02/26/2009 2:59:26 PM PST by stevie_d_64

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To: stevie_d_64

How can this be challenged in court?


161 posted on 02/26/2009 6:28:27 PM PST by dr_who
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To: exit82

There’s nothing unconstitutional about congress increasing the number of seats in the house of representatives. That’s perfectly within their authority, and they can do it pretty much whenever they want to.

Based on the most recent census, the additional seat goes to Utah, since they only missed getting another seat last time by something like 100 residents. If Utah had just a few more people last time, they’d have taken a seat from another state.

Giving a seat in the house to DC utterly violates the constitution. But that’s a separate issue.


162 posted on 02/26/2009 6:29:37 PM PST by Jordo
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

You are correct.


163 posted on 02/26/2009 6:29:39 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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To: potlatch

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It was a pretty good flick

I know what you mean - outta control

How about some “Liquid Skin” over the incision - It works great

If you don’t have that - some shaving stick after alcohol and/or Iodine


164 posted on 02/26/2009 6:33:08 PM PST by devolve
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To: devolve

devolve, he’d never come near me again if I used alcohol!!
They said don’t use anything, even hydrogen Peroxide, but that didn’t cover what just happened..

I read every day what zero is doing, but I’m one tiny nobody and feel helpless.


165 posted on 02/26/2009 6:38:57 PM PST by potlatch
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To: stevie_d_64

The courts should stop it before it becomes law. Why screw around?


166 posted on 02/26/2009 6:41:00 PM PST by RC2
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To: RC2

Obama is like Lincoln in one respect: They both could care less about what the Constitution did or didn’t say.

The ends justify the means.


167 posted on 02/26/2009 6:43:12 PM PST by johnjameson
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To: Centurion2000

Thanks. Appreciate your explanations.


168 posted on 02/26/2009 6:49:19 PM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: johnjameson

Constitution or not....some times people gotta do what they gotta do. Obama just does what he wants to do and the hell with the country.


169 posted on 02/26/2009 6:53:02 PM PST by RC2
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To: RC2

Ditto Abraham Lincoln.


170 posted on 02/26/2009 7:00:40 PM PST by johnjameson
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To: buccaneer81

“Good for Byrd! He did it purely on constitutional grounds; he’s a big stickler for that.”

Oh! That’s good to know. I thought it was because he’s been around since the Constitution was signed and remembered it. ;)


171 posted on 02/26/2009 7:03:57 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Washington DC., the 51st state.

(58th state in Obama’s counting)

172 posted on 02/26/2009 7:06:10 PM PST by tobyhill (Obama gets no free pass from Free Republic!)
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To: potlatch

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I found “New Skin” (not “Liquid Skin”) again at Target - for my portable first aid kit -

It has an antiseptic in it too - a very slight temporary sting perhaps - but not like Iodine - if it’s a fresh cut or burn - but it goes away instantly -

I was surprised my physicians were not familiar with it and did not even have it in their treatment rooms - They all were interested in it and bought some for themselves

On a really bad open cut I’ve had good rsults with first cleaning the cut and wrapping a cut finger with fine thread - Then applying a bit of Super Glue to the threads on each side of the cut area

Then applying alcohol or a good antiseptic ointment - then “New Skin” over the area

Going to a physician later after driving to the ER or doc’s office - they told me they could not have fixed it any better and that they would have thought it required stiches - which usually produces a rough scarred area and more time to heal properly

A mixture of oral/gum pain ointment for teeth and a powdered aspirin and some shaving stick will do wonders to kill the pain and stop bleeding if you do not have “New Skin” or bandages

I reacall using Super Glue to firmly attach a bandage to a dog’s foot after cleaning it and using antiseptic lotion to protect it during a very cold winter - the foot pad had been cut somehow as a result of an impact while the feet were very cold and easily damaged

I checked it every day and in a few days the bandage was no longer needed and the Super Glue was simple to remove

Great stuff Super Glue - They used it in Viet Nam and even on eye emergencies

It belongs in every First Aid kit too - with needles and thread

Honey works wonders on sore dogs feet in a cold winter too - It helps heal many cuts or abrasions that other things will not stop the infection in

I could be wrong - But this stuff always worked for me


173 posted on 02/26/2009 7:14:40 PM PST by devolve
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To: stevie_d_64

They will do anything... anything to get that super majority.


174 posted on 02/26/2009 7:16:03 PM PST by rintense (Go Israel!)
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To: devolve
[I could be wrong -]
Naaa, whose gonna believe that, lol.
Won't discuss what I did on a political thread, but it didn't work out well. I'm feeling bad for him.

Too many knives in your kitchen!

175 posted on 02/26/2009 7:26:06 PM PST by potlatch
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To: stevie_d_64

I have written both Ohio Senators and Governor Strickland with the following:

To the honorable Senator from Ohio,

My understanding, from the vote record and the AP article dated 26 Feb 2009 “Senate votes to give DC citizens vote in Congress”, is that you have failed to uphold your oath of office. You swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Yet your vote is a direct violation of Article I, Section 2 of the same.

There is a rule of law. I understand that it may be nice to provide the 600K people who live in the District with representation. This is not a matter of nice - it is a matter of law. Tell them to move if they so choose to gain representation.

The District was set apart for a reason - to prevent government direct representation of itself. You have a sacred trust as a member of Congress to abide by the law and as a Senator of my state to represent the state’s interest in this matter. You have abrogated your responsibilities in representing Ohio’s rights in this matter.

Article I, Section 2, clause 1 of the Constitution reads: “The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.” It is clear that representatives come from the states.

Article I, Section 2, clause 2: “No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen. “ How can these DC representatives qualify if not an Inhabitant of any state?

Article I, Section 2, clause 3: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative;.....” FROM WHOM SHALL THE APPORTRIONMENT BE OBTAINED? WITH OHIO LOOSING PROPORTIONAL POPULATION TO OTHER STATES SHALL WE NOW LOOSE
REPRESENTATION FROM YOUR INABILITY TO READ?

Clause 4: “When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.” Please explain to me who the Executive Authority is and how this shall be accomplished given there is no state?

Article I, Section 4, Clause 1: “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.” Who will conduct this duty as there is no state legislature?

Section 8 enumerates Congress’ powers and as such states: “To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States...” The exercise of exclusive legislation does not give Congress the authority to subvert the Constitution and determine representation for a non-State in the manner of a State. As a Senator you have an sworn obligation to represent Ohio’s interests in this matter - NOT the citizen’s of DC.

If the District denizens wish representation then let them become a State, relocating the District anew. If they do not wish to become a State then let them lift and move and utilize some of the ridiculous largesse from the recently passed bailout bill buy up the property and put it to public use as was intended.

Your further vote on this matter in the affirmative will leave me with no choice but to consider seeking your censure and/or recall.

Respectfully,

While I doubt very much it will do any good - I specifically asked Strickland to contact them and givem what for. Anyone know how to start a recall of a sitting Senator? I think it’s time to stop pussy footin’ around.


176 posted on 02/26/2009 7:28:57 PM PST by reed13 (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.")
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To: Boucheau

“Capitalism, the constitution, individual freedom—all “white man’s magic” to most minorities.”

I’ll say.


177 posted on 02/26/2009 7:29:00 PM PST by BonRad (As Rome goes so goes the world)
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To: JillValentine
I think he's gone senile and doesn't know what he's voting for or against anymore.

I dont know if it's senility...or that his hood was on crooked and he couldnt see which button he pushed.

178 posted on 02/26/2009 7:32:13 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: potlatch

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Never cut by kitchen knives

Rushing or late or tired working with tools or cutting brush

Always my left hand too

Dumbest accident was with a nailgun into a finger

Not fun

Super Glue and a cold Bud fixed it again!


179 posted on 02/26/2009 7:36:08 PM PST by devolve
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To: reed13

“Anyone know how to start a recall of a sitting Senator? I think it’s time to stop pussy footin’ around.”

Unfortunately, the constitution does not provide for the recall of senators.

Once they are elected and qualified, they serve out their terms, unless they assume room temperature or are expelled as provided in article 1, section 5 of the constitution.


180 posted on 02/26/2009 7:37:13 PM PST by Jordo
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