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Is Libertarianism a Sign of Mental Illness?
CATO Institute ^ | Feb. 25, 2009 | Daniel J. Mitchell

Posted on 02/26/2009 9:54:23 PM PST by bamahead

I don’t know whether this belongs in the comic-relief category or the future-threats category, but the Harvard Law School is having a conference to analyze the “free market mindset.” The basic premise of the conference seems to be that people who believe in limited government are psychologically troubled.

The conference schedule features presentations such as “How Thinking Like an Economist Undermines Community” and “Addicted to Incentives: How the Ideology of Self Interest Can Be Self-Fulfilling.” The most absurd presentation, though, may be the one entitled, “Colossal Failure: The Output Bias of Market Economies.” According to the description, the author argues that the market “delivers excessive levels of consumption.” Damn those entrepreneurs for creating so much wealth!

In the good old days of Soviet dictatorship, the regime classified dissidents as being mentally ill (after all, only a nutcase would fail to see the glories of communism).

Now that leftists at Harvard want to portray laissez-faire philosophy as being somewhat akin to a mental disorder, maybe the next step will be re-education camps for Cato staff? Maybe the next “stimulus” bill could include a few earmarks for such facilities? I’m keeping my fingers crossed that I get sent some place warm.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: freemarkets; libertarianism; liberty; lp; lping; newspeak
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1 posted on 02/26/2009 9:54:23 PM PST by bamahead
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2 posted on 02/26/2009 9:54:52 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

and yet we fall all over ourselves to listen to Ivy-League educated goons who spout such nonsense.


3 posted on 02/26/2009 9:55:41 PM PST by Teacher317 (wo xue zhong wen)
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To: bamahead

Not any more than Liberal/Communism.


4 posted on 02/26/2009 9:55:45 PM PST by madison10
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To: bamahead

What?


5 posted on 02/26/2009 9:58:59 PM PST by allmost
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To: bamahead
According to the description, the author argues that the market “delivers excessive levels of consumption.”

I see the author's in the "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" camp.

6 posted on 02/26/2009 9:59:19 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: bamahead

Isn’t Harvard Business School the one where most of the jerks who ran their financial institutions into the ground came from? Didn’t Obamination come from there?

Oh yeah, they have tons of credibility right now. Their time would be better spent slinking back into the corner and figure out where they went wrong.


7 posted on 02/26/2009 10:00:05 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: allmost

That was my initial reaction as well.


8 posted on 02/26/2009 10:00:14 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

No, but liberalism sure as hell is.


9 posted on 02/26/2009 10:03:03 PM PST by JamesP81 (I shall give their president the same respect they gave mine)
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To: bamahead
liberal worms infested in the brains while liberal maggots drop from their ears onto the floor....

Liberalism is much like Jacobson Disease.

10 posted on 02/26/2009 10:03:16 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: bamahead

I’m strongly little (l), but strongly..


11 posted on 02/26/2009 10:05:36 PM PST by allmost
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To: bamahead

I don’t agree with libertarians on many issues. And I know many libertarians actually voted for Obama because they didn’t want to vote for the ‘old guy.’

But it is pretty clear that we are all now in the same boat and Obama is after all of us and our $.


12 posted on 02/26/2009 10:07:02 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: ari-freedom

I would call any Libertarian who voted for Obama a LINO.


13 posted on 02/26/2009 10:09:47 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

This is unbelievable.

At one time, homosexuality was considered a type of mental illness. It was officially recognized as such by psychologists. Now it’s considered within the bounds of normal sexual behavior.

So, we have normalized what was once thought to be aberrant sexual behavior. And now we will consider a social/political point of view as a mental illness?????? Are these people for real????????/


14 posted on 02/26/2009 10:14:13 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Mr. Mojo

I see the author’s in the “from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” camp.
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Bingo!


15 posted on 02/26/2009 10:19:54 PM PST by RepublicanChick
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To: Dilbert San Diego

IMO you’re understating it. Homosexuality is now so normalized and mainstreamed that it is those who react to it with disdain or revulsion who are considered the aberrant ones; and who have to attend the mandatory diversity training sessions.


16 posted on 02/26/2009 10:22:37 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And they have the nerve to bash Bush for grabbing terrorists off the streets and shipping them to club gitmo.

It’s quite alright to run amuk with the intention of mass homicide, but when it comes to thoughts about economic freedom, that just simply will never do.


17 posted on 02/26/2009 10:24:02 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: bamahead

So their assumed conclusion at Harvard is that America and capitalism was founded by the mentally ill and we have had 238 years of mentally ill people running our country??

And now we have sane people in leadership and the economy is collapsing from their mental stability???

hahahahahaha what a real piece of work. No wonder we have so many Harvard grads in government!

Them Harvard students are really getting a reaming for what little education they are being conned into believing they received.


18 posted on 02/26/2009 10:25:01 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: dajeeps
Isn’t Harvard Business School the one where most of the jerks who ran their financial institutions into the ground came from? Didn’t Obamination come from there?

Obama went to the Harvard Law School. It's the Harvard Law school the article cites. Bush went to the Harvard Business School. He helped to run up a huge debt and shares in the blame.

19 posted on 02/26/2009 10:32:50 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: bamahead

Ivy league schools are so out of touch !


20 posted on 02/26/2009 10:34:09 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: bamahead

Same here. No one who calls himself a Libertarian should be able to vote for Obama with a clear conscience. At least the ones who voted for Barr were doing so primarily to advance the party. There is no excuse for voting for Obama if you’re one of the LP faithful.


21 posted on 02/26/2009 10:37:53 PM PST by arderkrag (Liberty Walking (www.geocities.com/arderkrag))
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To: bamahead

Absolutly. I am Libertarian. I must be crazy.One of the signs is that you think everybody else is crazy. I think we should cut the government by 90% and eliminate income based taxation. Guess I am crazy.


22 posted on 02/26/2009 10:37:54 PM PST by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: bamahead
"people who believe in limited government are psychologically troubled"

Yeah, well, people who believe in limited government have a hell of a lot to be psychologically troubled about right now.

23 posted on 02/26/2009 10:41:38 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Yes, I knew that Obama went to the law school. I supposed I complicated the thought by being specific in one place and not the other.

Obama has also said that he was a constitutional lawyer, which strikes me as odd because he really doesn’t seem to believe in the government limiting itself to the deliniated powers. Perhaps he only studied constitutional law long enough to figure out how to twist it.

Bush shares the inflation/big government blame, yes.


24 posted on 02/26/2009 10:42:15 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: screaminsunshine

Wow. You ARE crazy. Kinda like me.


25 posted on 02/26/2009 10:44:07 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Repeal the 16th!)
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To: bamahead

Going to the Harvard Law School to study historically constitutional law is like studying sensitivity and humanity under the Marquis de Sade.


26 posted on 02/26/2009 10:45:24 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bamahead
Neither libertarians or conservatives had a candidate this time around.

The best anyone could do was vote "Not Obama." McCain was utterly clueless. I suspect that with the exception of the gun control crapola, we'd be seeing similar spending sprees under McCain right now.

27 posted on 02/26/2009 10:48:39 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: ari-freedom
And I know many libertarians actually voted for Obama because they didn't want to vote for the "old guy."

Do you have any percentages for libertarians? The figures quoted in Christianity Today say 25% of evangelcals voted for Obama:

Exit polls say 26 percent of American voters called themselves evangelical or born-again Christians, and of these, 74 percent voted for McCain, with 25 percent voting for Obama.

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/2008/11/the_evangelical.html

28 posted on 02/26/2009 11:34:18 PM PST by Ken H
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To: bamahead

**people who believe in limited government are psychologically troubled.**

then, I guess, our Founding Fathers were Psychos, and that JOHN ADAMS GUY was a real LUNATIC!!

Yo Harvard... If you want to look for Mental Illness.. I suggest you start looking at your TENURED STAFF!!!


29 posted on 02/26/2009 11:36:45 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Getting out my shovel and boots!!!

It’s going to be easier going Libertarian than going back to the GOP.
With the GOP I have about 8 items I have to square before I’d go back.

As for Libertarians, If it wasn’t for their stand on the war, the Drug bit, and they keep running what look like Republicans who smoked too much dope in the 60’s, I’d sign up today.


30 posted on 02/26/2009 11:40:57 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: gwilhelm56

My main problem with these “wars” is they are not “declared” by congress. They become politicized. We should only go do war by declaration and then fight to unconditional victory. PC warfare does not work for me.


31 posted on 02/26/2009 11:58:14 PM PST by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: bamahead

You Americans really have no idea what is happening to you, do you?

The hard-left has its fangs dug into your neck, has pierced your carotid and is currently feasting.

At the risk of seeming extreme, all of your suspicions are true.

The real question is: will you awaken to defend yourselves before it’s too late.

You see, there is a tipping point at which you cannot go back.

The base left has succeeded in a slow-motion takeover of your country.

The clock is ticking.

It is very interesting to observe, I must say.


32 posted on 02/26/2009 11:58:52 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: screaminsunshine

PLease explain to me how these “wars” are not “DECLARED” by Congress.. the Constitution says Congress is to declare war, but there is NO SET VERBAGE in the Constitution of how to do that. I must have missed it, but then, Constitutional Scholars MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN I have also “MISSED IT”. A joint resolution saying ... “Prez, go kick their BUTTS!” Is as much a Declaration of war according to the Constitution.

Please remember, the Constitution is not a SUICIDE PACT.. we have the right to defend ourselves, Preemptively or otherwise.


33 posted on 02/27/2009 12:31:00 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: bamahead

It is more than just a sign. It is the whole banana.


34 posted on 02/27/2009 12:31:12 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: bamahead

Still a better situation than forty or fifty years ago, when free market economists were a rarity—if not outright nonexistent—outside the Universiy of Chicago.

Harvard, as well as other uber-liberal universities, feature some very prominent free market economists in their economics department. In economics departments, it’s not unusual to be a libertarian, free market, “conservative.” Not even at UC Berkley.


35 posted on 02/27/2009 12:35:25 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: bamahead
I would call any Libertarian who voted for Obama a LINO.

Agree. I'd be interested in the breakdown among libertarian voters.

Using Christianity Today's figures, I came up with nearly 8,000,000 evangelicals who voted for Obama.

36 posted on 02/27/2009 12:38:13 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

**any Libertarian who voted for Obama a LINO.**

Actually I have a term (really Several) for ANYONE who voted for OBAMA ... STUPID, MORON, DANGEROUS, VAPID ... come QUICKLY to mind.


37 posted on 02/27/2009 12:40:46 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: bamahead

>> Is Libertarianism a Sign of Mental Illness?
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>> people who believe in limited government are psychologically troubled.

I would say so, especially when they end up voting for the party of bigger government.

No offense to the Libertarians here at FR.


38 posted on 02/27/2009 12:46:08 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: bamahead

Lyle H. Rossiter, JR., M.D. also thinks that socialism is a mental desease read his book The Liberal mind


39 posted on 02/27/2009 1:24:25 AM PST by saintgermaine
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To: bamahead
According to the description, the author argues that the market “delivers excessive levels of consumption.”

Just a point of, perhaps nothing more than grammar but, the market cannot deliver consumption. Consumption is a reaction to production.

Perhaps it's just that these clowns don't understand anything.

40 posted on 02/27/2009 2:32:27 AM PST by muir_redwoods (The president is an ass)
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To: bamahead

I weep for “Patrick Henry University.”

Then again, the only 2 places where the theories of communist ideology really thrive are in totalitarian governments and universities.

Mark


42 posted on 02/27/2009 4:33:40 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: gwilhelm56

Let me just say a “declaration of war”. That way when liberals try to undermine us and help the enemy we can just arrest them.


43 posted on 02/27/2009 4:53:04 AM PST by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: Ken H
Using Christianity Today's figures, I came up with nearly 8,000,000 evangelicals who voted for Obama.

How can a Christian evangelical vote for Mr F.O.C.A.?

That number of votes, in the right places, would have turned the tide.

44 posted on 02/27/2009 5:00:57 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Teacher317

Wondering if those who believe in limited government also show a higher than average mistrust in government which becomes interpreted as paranoia?


45 posted on 02/27/2009 6:52:04 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: bamahead

Liberalism and communism are mental disorders and lobotomies are the cure.

The idea that a person can be compelled to achieve success so that the unproductive derive benefit from the achiever’s labor is absolutely absurd.

Didn’t Harvard once educate people? When did the groupthink indoctrination program begin?


46 posted on 02/27/2009 7:08:51 AM PST by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: ari-freedom

I know of no libertarian nor Libertarian who voted for Obama. I know damned few who voted for anyone but Bob Barr or Ron Paul.


47 posted on 02/27/2009 7:10:39 AM PST by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: Mr. Mojo
"I see the author's in the "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" camp."

As long as he gets his, which he undoubtedly will for sucking up to the communists.

48 posted on 02/27/2009 7:15:43 AM PST by ronnyquest ("That's what governments are for, to get in a man's way." -- Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: bamahead

So, where is the Liberal “Control” group?


49 posted on 02/27/2009 7:37:40 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: JamesP81
“No, but liberalism sure as hell is.”

A liberal is what socialists would like you to call them since everyone knows how crazy socialism is. I wouldn't give them the satisfaction if I were you. Better to call them what they really are. Socialists. Besides it avoids confusion. In Europe and the rest of the world a liberal is like an American Libertarian. Socialists over there call themselves socialists or progressives.

50 posted on 02/27/2009 7:53:18 AM PST by monday
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