Skip to comments.N.C. Marine charged with threatening Obama
Posted on 02/27/2009 6:31:43 AM PST by mnehring
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then we wouldn’t even be here chatting away on the internet, the world would be a very different place and we don’t know what we can or can’t do.
Bull crap. I've threatened to kill people before. So have you.
It is our right to express our disgust for people by saying that we'd like to kill them or like to see them die.
That right is secured by the first amendment. It is only when we act on that threat that we should be subject to prosecution.
I am willing to bet that there has never been an assasination of a president by someone who has publicly threatened to kill them. Assassins don't threaten to kill presidents. They just do it.
**********You don’t like him, go the legal channels******
You mean like the Supreme Court?? He doesnt have standing.
A threat like this will always be taken seriously, and he was stupid to make it.
Having said that, there are no channels that will listen .
We can only hope to survive until 2010.
No kidding. Go to the dummie underground site on any given day and see that kind of remark. These charges are baseless and reek of communism. Where’s the ACLU to protect this man’s right to free speech?/sarc/
This POS is an enemy of the US, just as is Bin Laden.
Agreed per post 52
You are right, I know how they feel about us.
Facts is that I have a Harvard Educated 1/2 Hispanic son-in-law. (who I love as a son) And I have lots of non-White friends, many on this forum.
All the MSM wants to do is divide us. They see that Southern states have been more driven together because of past events than the rest of the nation. They intend to divide us (the nation) and conquer us. (Subject us to a corrupt global government)
I will die opposing that.
right. It’s dangerous.
Probably stated that he did not vote for him.
I have already accepted that ... that may be my fate as well.
>>>Gee what happened to the first amendment?
The First Amendment is not an absolute right. There have been limits placed on it. For example, laws against defamation, libel and slander; it is illegal to incite crowds to violence; obscenity can be regulated.
And there was people on the left who thought the exact same thing about GW Bush. But both Bush and Obama were elected according to our Constitution and the office should be respected- especially by people in the military. If this guy really threatened the president's life, I'm totally lacking in sympathy for his behavior.
He is their commander in chief. Can't have that. I hate it, but (going on what little bit is in the article), the prosecution is correct.
I might even agree with him in principle, but he needs to learn to keep his opinions to himself.
Careful Major. I advise maintaining the utmost in low profiles, even being on this site.
Very soon we all will be required to do that
I'm sorry, but expressing the opinion that you like to kill the president should be a protected right.
A conspiracy to kill the president, or a threat followed by some action towards accomplishing that goal is and should be illegal.
But merely stating (in this case probably in reaction to something the president had just said) that you'd like to kill the bastard is a right that all Free Men should enjoy.
The first amendment protects our right to say stupid things. Expressing what is in our hearts, no matter how vile those thoughts might be, should NEVER be a crime. NEVER!
Prove that Bush and Obama were not elected according to the Constituion.
The Ethiopian's case will be dismissed, he will receive a free home and will soon have his own reality show.
The Marine will be offered a final cigarette with or without blindfold.
Though I don't understand how he is a white supremacist while running around committing robberies with several black accomplices.
I guess since Lee Harvey Oswald was a former Marine, and is believed to have shot Camelot Kennedy, that this guy would have been seen as a threat, especially since he blabbed about it. Maybe he never had plans to do anything, and his actions were done just to get himself out of the service. Even though he’d end up being tagged with a dishonorable discharge and possible criminal record, some people will do anything to get out of a situation.
So, where would that place me?/Just Asking - seoul62......
It’s never been legal to threaten to kill anyone.
Thanks for the Ping to that link.
A. Your minority part is Asian, and that doesn't really count as a minority in their book (too successful, not whiny enough).
B. Forgetting "A", the Liberal term now for minority conservatives is "self-hater under the influence of Stockholm syndrome".
Hopefully not even in is heart. I’m certainly no Obama fan, but I wish him a long life. I certainly don’t want to see two little girls at their father’s memorial service. That’s always heartbreaking, no matter who the father is.
No, I haven't. You should seek professional help if you do.
I thought Marines didn’t make threats. Marines made actions.
Really? Next time your wife threatens to kill you, call the police.
Then I will support the charges with the opportunity given to the Marine of full disclosure. :)
I think I meant discovery in post 85. I want the Marine to be permitted discovery.
Well of course.
Making threats against the President is STUPID, but there is a much bigger issue at work here.
We are beginning to see anecdotal evidence every day now of the MILITARY turning on Obama.
It is illegal to threaten to kill the president. And I am willing to bet that anyone who publicly threatened to kill the president was unable to carry it out because they were arrested. And most threats/attempts/assassinations against US presidents haven’t been carried out by assassins, they’ve been carried out by crazy people.
My wife has never threatened to harm me. What kind of screwed up life have you lead that you think these things are common?
Go easy on the marine he did take an oath to defend the constituion against all threats foreign and domestic.
Good. Because threatening an enemy combatant is not against the law.
Matter of fact, since he is a Marine, action is encouraged.
Got it./Just Asking - seoul62.........
not smart at all..
Who gets to determine who an enemy of the Constitution is? Can you imagine each person deciding on their own who the enemy is? A legal conclusion to this has not been determined- until then, Obama is holding the office of President of the United States. He has not been legally determined to be ineligible. One can’t just go around taking actions based on an opinion, especially in the military. If that is your opinion, apply for conscious objector status the next time you are given an order by the CIC- don’t react with illegal behavior just because your opinion is the CIC isn’t eligible.
I see so you automatically agree that heresay is proof positive. Your a well know lib on the board, please just go away.
I am a well known lib.. lol.. I am discussing the concept of threatening the CIC- you don’t like it, hit abuse.
What scares me that if anything happens to Bambi, look at what we get with the next two in line !
Facts and objectivity, not heresay and speculation, in determining one guilt and innocence. Free speech is the first thing that will be removed by the libs.
He was elected president. Legitimately? I’m not so sure.