Posted on 02/27/2009 7:36:53 AM PST by restornu
The LDS Church does more than donate food or supplies to disaster-stricken areas. It recently donated 2,000 wheelchairs to the disabled people of the Babil Province in Iraq.
The Iraqi government and several aid organizations from the U.S. gathered along with community members...
new wheelchairs to 25 of the neediest people in the area, according to ....
Some of the recipients relied on crutches and have never had wheelchairs.
"There are 25 percent of these people who require wheelchairs as a minimum treatment requirement," Lt. Col. Doil O'Steen, commander of ...
It wasn't The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' first wheelchair donation. According to lds.org, the church has donated more than 300,000 wheelchairs in 101 countries since 2001. Last year, it donated more than 50,000 wheelchairs in 46 countries ...
Some 1,500 of the donated wheelchairs in Iraq are called "Rough Rider," which are used to negotiate more difficult terrain. ...
There are an estimated 8,000 disabled men, women and children in Babil Province, coping with amputations, spinal cord injuries, cerebral palsy, brain injuries and developmental disabilities. ....
selected recipients from a list of 6,000 names.
"We have high hopes that the Americans and other officials in Iraq that are committed to alleviating suffering will pull together our efforts to end their suffering," said Salem Saleh al-Maslamawi, the governor of Babil. "I believe that anyone who helps these handicapped people will be rewarded from God, .....
(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...
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This is the first time I ever had to excerpt the Deseret News ??
Sharing this news on GF because we can’t use the caucus for news.
I see you doing yours!:)
I look at charity and alms differently, with a charity, you have to drum up support so others will join you in your cause. A charity is like the alms box, you don’t hide the alms box, you leave it out so people will know where to give- their giving they may choose to do in private.
Thanks. See you can post something positive about lds without closing to comment.
This is so cool!
“I look at charity and alms differently”
than Jesus!?
I agree drum up support for good works, but the author is using it to say “LDS good, LDS done this”, the TITLE screams phariseeicalism. This is exactly the kind of thing Jesus preached against in Matthew 6. I’m only saying the author was wrong in their presentation. And possibly people who promoted the article if in the same spirit
author would have been more persuasive leaving the LDS relation until the 2nd paragraph. doing it this way just seems cheap
should’ve just been “wheelchair donation leaves Iraqi’s wheeling good”, then you read, THEN you see LDS later & you think “yeah they’re good, not crazy crackers, bless them”
But this way you just think “self-serving soul soliciting”.
Its like the Pharisees who fasted standing on the corner dirty and complaining about how hungry they were. I seem to recall that Jesus said wash your clothes, comb your hair and go about your business, Fasting is between you and God. (ok paraphrased to be sure).
This is not a Religion forum thread - please do not drag dogmatic battles into it.
I am sorry some of you choose to seek us out but this is general news where I treid to post to LDS members,
I use to post it under caucus whihc is for behind and Activist thread I want to communicate with those who are LDS so I decide to post on General and not N/A
the Lord also said
Luke 6
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
so please go in peace
Gee, your question is so nuetral, but let me take a stab. The paper it is in is mostly read my Mormons. Therefore, it is nice to see what works are being done by one’s church. However, it does invite the rabid LDS haters to post their diatribes. I guess if I was an old bag lady with no husband and no teeth and no life, and my miserable life was almost over with, I just might post a long post to build myself up while tearing down others. Crazy like a foxx.
Why not write the story and have it in the story that these were lds, it is the appearance of self promotion that is at question.
“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven”
Quite possibly the most misused verse in the Bible. A full discussion of which would take an extremely long time.
My point is right. They should have left it until later, and it would have been more persuasive. I’m trying to help you! I WANT there to be better relations between LDS & proper Christians! We totally should be on the same team. You’re totally wrong about loads of stuff but that’s OK. You’re cool anyway.
This is a story about good deeds. There are plenty of other threads to discuss LDS topics.
Would you answer my other question?
I have a suggestion - if you need to be told in detail how you can respond on a thread about an organization doing charitable acts, then I would suggest staying off it entirely. Quite frankly, it’s pretty sorry that I have to babysit this thread and that some people just can’t say “good works” and keep their dogmatic issues on the Religion forum.
Yes, that’s good. And surely there are many beams in my eye. I considerest them. I don’t considerest them not.
I genuinely posted to help. I don’t want people to see that dumb title & think “soul soliciting scum”. That doesn’t help our common causes.
If you are going to make that an issue, then we Christians have a plank to pull out of our eye before dealing with the LDS’s speck.
I don’t see what you’re saying.
How about this.. think about saying..
“Gee LDS church, THANK YOU for donating wheel chairs to poor, injured kids”..
Instead of nit picking something in which we are just as guilty about. I’ve never once seen these kind of accusations drawn against, say, the Southern Baptist Convention when they announce a charitable donation. Usually they receive praise and accolades.
The LDS is not my church, therefore, I don’t feel it is my place to start nitpicking things like this when my own house needs cleaning. They deserve our thanks for this, not criticism.
If it’s impossible for a thread like this to exist without the usual hailstorm of arrows, perhaps it would save you and everyone else here time and heartburn to make it a caucus thread.
I think I see where the mod is coming from.. it seems that no matter the subject, if someone in the topic happens to be LDS, the thread turns into a theological bash and the point of the news story is long gone.. Basically, a thread on Marie Osmond’s new jewelry line will have hundreds of posts how the LDS used to support polygamy because she happens to be Mormon.
Right, every thread. Frankly, it’s getting very tiresome, not only to LDS here, but I’ve seen many Non-LDS express similar frustration.
“Instead of nit picking something in which we are just as guilty about. I’ve never once seen these kind of accusations drawn against, say, the Southern Baptist Convention when they announce a charitable donation. Usually they receive praise and accolades.
The LDS is not my church, therefore, I don’t feel it is my place to start nitpicking things like this when my own house needs cleaning. They deserve our thanks for this, not criticism.”
Thank you. Anti Mormonism has become an obsession on this forum for some. It’s ugly.
“the Southern Baptist Convention when they announce a charitable donation”
I didn’t see that on here. If it were the same, I would have the same comment to make.
The title made me post. The title was childish, and it evoked my response. Anyone who actually read my comments saw I was focused on the AUTHOR, not the church for doing it. But as is so often the case, the facts/words are ignored, and some people just place their own expectations there instead.
“Thank you. Anti Mormonism has become an obsession on this forum for some. It’s ugly.”
Absolute nonsense. Show me the quote.
The anti posters have been advised many times to keep the theological debate on "open" threads in the Religion Forum where it belongs.
And the thin-skinned posters have been advised many times to stay away from "open" threads on the Religion Forum.
But there are some on both sides who ignore the moderators and are drawn like moths to a flame. If they get burnt they have no one else to blame.
This is a nice story about charity and should be treated as such. The “Auntie Ems” that will inevitably be drawn to any thread with the word LDS in it so they can spew their usual bile and hate...you’d think they would have better things to do than worry about Mormons...it’s a weird obsession...I am often surprised they are tolerated on this forum...IMHO they make conservatives look bad...magritte
I sincerely doubt that if the group in question donating the wheelchairs was the Lions Club and they were mentioned in the headline, that so much criticism would be directed at them for it. You are being disingenous.
Can you read?...pick any Mormon thread. And NO, I won’t play your game.
There’s no game. You claim to see rabid “anti-mormonism”, and I am the most visible non-mormon on this thread, so that reflects on me.
I would just like to see one quote that is like you say.
If it’s “pick any mormon thread” then maybe so. I have studiously avoided them for a long time. But that title just begged to be given that Bible reference.
It kinda' creeps me out, frankly. I know it takes two to start a flamewar, but some people need to have a beer or go outside and take some air.
When you and I start agreeing, you know it’s gotten bad!!! LOL
Have a good day, rudeboy, I’m outta here for a bit.
Trying to get back on topic, this wheelchairs for kids program seems great.. here is some more on what they are doing.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2195529/posts
“Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them:
=>otherwise ye have no reward of your Father<=
which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms,
=>do not sound a trumpet before thee,<=
as the =>hypocrites<= do
in the synagogues and in the streets,
=>that they may have glory of men<=.
Verily I say unto you,
=>They have their reward<=.
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.”
- Jesus Christ
lol. did you not see that we’d already been through that?
the title just begs for that reference doesn’t it?
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