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Bill O'Reilly: The End of Obama Mania
Townhall ^ | February 28, 2009 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 02/27/2009 9:56:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The TV ratings for February have been tabulated, and in the world of cable news there is weeping on the left. Fox News Channel, which is generally tougher on the president, hammered the two networks that most favor President Obama -- CNN and MSNBC. In fact, Fox News was the third-highest rated prime-time cable network in America, behind USA and TNT. CNN was 15th; MSNBC, a dismal 23rd.

Also, unique visitors to the Obama-loving website Daily Kos have declined a whopping 73 percent since last fall -- a disaster. What's going on?

It all has to do with fear. While Obama retains a high approval rating, many Americans are flat-out scared about the economy. The recession is bringing massive pain to America, and responsible citizens want the truth about public policy, not partisan cheerleading.

Thus, many news consumers do not trust news operations and websites that have a vested interest in seeing Obama succeed in the White House. One look at NBC News, for example, and you know the company line is to help Obama, not report the unvarnished truth.

Spinning the economy does not help people whose jobs may be in jeopardy. They need solid information about what is actually happening in order to make difficult decisions on personal spending and, perhaps, seeking new employment in a more secure industry. Self-protection dictates they secure the most reliable sources of information available.

On the other side, Obama bashing doesn't do the folks much good, either. Why waste time on attacks when information is what the folks need? I think it's fair to say that this brutal economic downturn took most Americans by surprise. It certainly shocked me. Even though I'm a journalist, I had no idea that mortgage companies were gaming the system by bundling risky loans and selling them to dunces at Lehman Brothers. I was clueless. In hindsight, I should have been more skeptical of the housing bubble.

The point is that concentrating on ideology instead of accumulating information can lead to a distorted view of reality. Many among the media these days are in business to promote a political philosophy rather than to protect the folks by exposing dangerous situations. Ideology has corrupted the watchdog press that our Founders envisioned.

Left to fend for themselves, the folks are gravitating toward news agencies that seemingly tell it like it is. Committed left-wing newspapers are folding in Seattle, Minneapolis and, perhaps, San Francisco. The New York Times had to borrow money from a Mexican guy at 14 percent interest, and far-left TV news operations are sinking fast.

President Obama still has wide support, but not fanatical support. Most of the folks simply want the truth, even though, these days, the truth can be hard to handle.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bailout; bho2009; bho44; billoreilly; drivebymedia; economy; first100days; foxnewsratings; hopeychangey; obama; obamamania; obamamaniamedia; oreilly; talkradio; television
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He forgot the Rocky Mountain News in Denver.

Half of those hits at Daily Kos were probably conservatives seeking ironic humor, I'll wager.

1 posted on 02/27/2009 9:56:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t hate O’Reilly, but his incessant “the folks” populism is really tedious.


2 posted on 02/27/2009 9:58:41 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Hope you're happy with your "send a message to the RNC" vote)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t know CNN had sunk to 15th place.

O’Reilly is a joke to most conservatives, so this is a good sign.


3 posted on 02/27/2009 10:00:32 PM PST by unkus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These ratings probably have more to do with American Idol and other entertainment venues than news reporting (although, that said, MSNBC is perpetually hideous and unwatchable). We are, after all, still in the “Bread and Circuses” phase of the empire.


4 posted on 02/27/2009 10:06:22 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The inmates are now officially running the asylum.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like O’Reilly. He shows the ability to continue to educate himself and improve. It looks to me like he’s getting better all the time, and I have been watching his show more regularly.

By the way, Lou Dobbs has also been tearing Dumbo a new one, big time.


5 posted on 02/27/2009 10:10:08 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6 posted on 02/27/2009 10:12:56 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I visited Daily Kos frequently in the Fall! It was fun to read how the lunatic fringe was faring.


7 posted on 02/27/2009 10:15:10 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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To: Lancey Howard

I place my bet on Dobbs.BOR tried too hard.


8 posted on 02/27/2009 10:21:57 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: imahawk

CNN and MSNBC deserve where they’re at.

I’m not usually into giving suggestions to the enemy but if anybody from those organizations is reading this here is how I would go about getting back into the game: become dignified, polite journalists, who promise to respect both invited liberals and conservatives and not interrupt, ridicule guests or play the gotcha game, but allow each side to say their piece as they address issues.

So simple, but alas not even an option in the era of Obama where the number one goal is to destroy Sarah Palin.


9 posted on 02/27/2009 10:34:47 PM PST by techno
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reason is really twofold: 1) the socialists got their president, why do they need to watch MSNBC or hit the Daily Kos anymore? Those such outlets are fuelled by hatred - what’s there for them to hate with a marxist in the white house and d’rats in complete control of congress? 2) with the economy falling apart, many others still have a great interest in what’s going on. These MSNBC/Kos people who haven’t completely unplugged actually want to hear some criticism of Obama. Just the way it’s fun for us to look at the Daily Kos or the Huffington Post for a few laughs from time to time, they only have one tv outlet, cable or local, that doesn’t routinely heap praise on Obama for taking a trip to the jon. Of course, that tv outlet is FNC, so they get all that viewership.


10 posted on 02/27/2009 10:36:16 PM PST by cartervt2k
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Most of the folks simply want the truth, even though, these days, the truth can be hard to handle.

Most of "the folks" want to be lied to, be told that everything is gonna be all right, and that Obama will fix it all. The big drop-off at Daily Kos reflects the desire of the parasite class who elected Bammy to now sit back and coast in blissful ignorance while their hero takes care of them.

11 posted on 02/27/2009 10:49:57 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
These ratings probably have more to do with American Idol and other entertainment venues than news reporting

I'm confused. What does 'American Idol' have to do with the FOX News Network?

12 posted on 02/27/2009 11:03:23 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ("men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." -- Edmund Burke)
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To: Lancey Howard

Apparently you didn’t hear his recent radio show where he went on an extended rant against the ‘right wing lunatics’ that are all over talk radio.


13 posted on 02/27/2009 11:15:14 PM PST by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...MSNBC, a dismal 23rd.”

I’m proud to say I’m contributing actively to their lack of ratings. I deleted MSNBC from my cable/remote so it skips right over it as if it were an empty channel (which, content-wise, it pretty much is).

Yeah, it’s a little juvenile. But it makes me happy knowing there’s no possibility of accidentally seeing Dobermann or Madcow’s ugly mugs on my tv. :-)


14 posted on 02/27/2009 11:34:57 PM PST by DemforBush (Somebody wake me when sanity has returned to the nation.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Also, unique visitors to the Obama-loving website Daily Kos have declined a whopping 73 percent since last fall -- a disaster.

This needs to be put in context. The visitors to all political websites have probably dropped off since the election. If FR, NRO, etc. have dropped relatively less, then that would mean something.

15 posted on 02/27/2009 11:39:29 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: frankiep
Apparently you didn’t hear his recent radio show where he went on an extended rant against the ‘right wing lunatics’ that are all over talk radio.

No, I missed that. Big mistake on his part. He's thinks he's elevating himself "above all that", like he's better than everybody else. If O'Reilly doesn't understand that people see right through that kind of snobbishness, he's an idiot.

16 posted on 02/27/2009 11:52:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

American Idol is not on the Fox News Channel.


17 posted on 02/27/2009 11:56:42 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Lancey Howard

he made a couple of not so subtle references to Rush Limbaugh (big mouths with their fat cigars) during his rant. I totally lost any respect I had for him when I heard it.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 12:10:19 AM PST by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MSNBC, CNN, and Daily Kos are all so preposterously propagandistic that EVEN LIBERALS can’t tolerate them!


19 posted on 02/28/2009 12:16:13 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
O’Reilly has created an on-air characterture of himself as spokesman and crusader for the common man. A lot of his audience buys into it. He mixes in tabloid stories to attract the lowest common denominator of TV consumer which includes Democrats and apoliticals. But he'll also have Newt Gingrich or Karl Rove doing analysis. So viewers that like the two-headed dog stories are also absorbing conservative commentary. This is a formula Rupert Murdock first used in his print media. CNN tries to pretend that TV news is not entertainment while FOX exploits it.
20 posted on 02/28/2009 12:36:15 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Rocky Mountain News was the more conservative of the two CO newspapers.

CO being a state filled with reasonably young people, just couldn’t sustain two newspapers. Most of the younger generation get their news from the Internet, if they bother at all.


21 posted on 02/28/2009 12:39:46 AM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is O’Reilly “tight on” on this?


22 posted on 02/28/2009 12:47:18 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is O’Reilly “right on” on this?


23 posted on 02/28/2009 12:49:26 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: techno

Liberals have a mental sickness, they harbor intense dislike of conservatives. They can’t get themselves to show respect.


24 posted on 02/28/2009 12:51:05 AM PST by ajay_kumar (Elections have consequences. Socialist Liberals are in charge, sadly.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Rocky was the more conservative of the Denver newspapers.


25 posted on 02/28/2009 1:06:58 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They voted for it, they are going to get it. Good and hard.

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26 posted on 02/28/2009 1:53:53 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: DemforBush

I absolutely refuse to watch MSNBC and CNN, and I cannot stomach Campbell Brown and others over there.


27 posted on 02/28/2009 2:26:38 AM PST by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

Its Oreily that was clouded by party loyalty. There are some ppl on the right e.g Peter Schiff who wasn’t clouded by party loyalty who saw the truth, but still stuck to his ideology


28 posted on 02/28/2009 2:43:04 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

I also think its a mistake to treat ccn/msnbc/ daily kos traffic numbers seperately. You need to add them all together and overall they’re still much larger than right wing outlets

e.g ccn - 2 mil, msnbc - 2mil, nbc - 2 mil, fox news 3 mil
On ranking it looks like foxnews is winning but if you add ccn/msnbc/nc, thats 6 mil vs fox news of 3 mil


29 posted on 02/28/2009 2:50:47 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Lancey Howard

Does he still have that “body expert”? I stopped watching him after one two many appearances by that liberal fraud. If he got rid of her I might tune back in.


30 posted on 02/28/2009 2:54:33 AM PST by Radl (rtr)
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To: Lancey Howard

I like when he went onto the view and made fun of that Joy b*tch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6rR2OwaY1c


31 posted on 02/28/2009 3:00:30 AM PST by death2tyrants
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark


32 posted on 02/28/2009 3:00:50 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve gone to Daily Kos a few times,
I think the majority there are insane.
obamma lamma kool aide drinkers all.


33 posted on 02/28/2009 3:14:29 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Darkwolf377

I agree. “The folks” is really getting very tiresome. Another thing I don’t like about O’Reilly is his running on and on, constantly interrupting his guests, particularly Dennis Miller. I view this as a feeble attempt to appear clever and to show us how “hip” and knowledgeable he is. He simply doesn’t know when to get out of the way.


34 posted on 02/28/2009 3:25:18 AM PST by donaldo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ideology has corrupted the watchdog press that our Founders envisioned.

This line gets repeated almost daily, but for the life of me, I can't recall where the Founding Fathers said, "We are trusting in a watchdog press."

Someone help me here. The existence of freedom of the press in the Constitution does not equal "we are trusting in a watchdog press" any more than the existence of freedom of religion has them saying "We are trusting in watchdog religious denominations."

35 posted on 02/28/2009 3:50:27 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In hindsight, I should have been more skeptical of the housing bubble.

Perhaps in hindsight, Mr. O'Reilly should have read at least one book about bubbles and their disastrous consequences. Dr. Charles MacKay's classic Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds has been available for over a century --- he could find a copy at Amazon or you can download for free from Project Gutenberg. Many other books, including the well-written and highly appropriate The Moneymaker by Janet Gleeson, have also been published more recently.

Every time the cry is "Oh, this bubble is different!" No, they are all the same: the bigger the bubble, the bigger the bust. This bubble was vast, so now we are trying to navigate through what could be very turbulent waters, and unfortunately the captain and the crew are dangerously ignorant and incompetent.

36 posted on 02/28/2009 4:47:21 AM PST by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think it's fair to say that this brutal economic downturn took most Americans by surprise. It certainly shocked me. Even though I'm a journalist, I had no idea that mortgage companies were gaming the system by bundling risky loans and selling them to dunces at Lehman Brothers. I was clueless. In hindsight, I should have been more skeptical of the housing bubble.

Bill, you pinhead...you forgot to mention how the federal government invited private lenders into this fiasco, instigating, aiding and abetting the entire disaster. Probably just an oversight on your part.

37 posted on 02/28/2009 5:14:44 AM PST by floozy22 (El Presidente: "Ten pounds of sh*t in a five pound bag.")
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To: Lancey Howard

Didn’t Bill just drop his radio factor or was it dropped?


38 posted on 02/28/2009 5:47:02 AM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Lancey Howard
> O’Reilly ... shows the ability to continue to educate himself and improve. ... he’s getting better all the time

Sorry for the mixup. This other O'Reilly, of whom you write, sounds like a pretty good guy, but this thread is about Bill O'Reilly, who has a program on Fox News Channel.

39 posted on 02/28/2009 5:49:40 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Ted O'Baxter should just STFU until he tells the truth about the lies he told about FReeRepublic.

Until then, he is a liar, a fraud, and a coward who is hiding under his desk (as he claims others are doing when they duck HIS questions).

40 posted on 02/28/2009 5:59:33 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("an empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Obama got out")
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To: snowsislander

The big bubble right now is government growth. It was double the inflation rate under the Bush/Democrat Congress. Now it’s going to be triple or more under Obama/Democrat control. That’s the same rate of growth that the housing bubble had. When a government bubble bursts the misery lasts a generation.


41 posted on 02/28/2009 6:12:19 AM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: frankiep

O’R’s radio show is now done.


42 posted on 02/28/2009 6:19:28 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama-loving website Daily Kos have declined a whopping 73 percent since last fall -- a disaster. What's going on?

They are happy!

43 posted on 02/28/2009 6:20:31 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: Radl
Does he still have that “body expert”?

LOL - Yeah, she still comes on. After BOR was on The View he had her on several times evaluating his appearance with those women. BOR just loves attention. He really wants to be thought of as the main player amongst conservatives. This explains, in my opinion, his rabid envy of Rush Limbaugh.
BOR even stated, last week I believe, that Sarah Palin is mismanages by her staff. BOR's reasoning for saying this? Why because Sarah Palin has never appeared on his show. Between BOR and Obama I don't know which is more insecure.

44 posted on 02/28/2009 6:21:51 AM PST by jla (Sarah! sarahpac.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopefully, the trend of failed socialist media will continue.


45 posted on 02/28/2009 6:22:06 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
O’Reilly will have Gingrich and Rove on, but if they stray from O’Reilly’s perception of reality, or position on an issue, her interrupts them, talks over them, or ‘moves on’. I watch the show, but except for a couple of things he cares about and acts on, O'R’s a buffoon.
46 posted on 02/28/2009 6:22:31 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: jla
"BOR even stated, last week I believe, that Sarah Palin is mismanages by her staff. BOR's reasoning for saying this? Why because Sarah Palin has never appeared on his show."

Well him saying such does smell of hubris, but you still gotta ask why would she go on the Perky One's show and answer questions and NOT the Number one rated cable news show in the country.

It doesn't make sense.

47 posted on 02/28/2009 6:25:16 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MSM - Don't worry about the wet feeling on your leg. It's only rain.

Fox News - It ain't rain by a long shot.

48 posted on 02/28/2009 6:25:36 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: Lancey Howard
I like O’Reilly. He shows the ability to continue to educate himself and improve.

Lancey, always good to meet a "glass half-full" guy when it comes to O'Reilly. I am indeed heartened, In fact, I predict that someday, while you, I, and BO are still on the planet, this guy just might openly endorse, or even, Praise the Lord, might himself vote for, a Republican.

BO is trying to drive the Democrat party of Boxer, Reid, Peolosi, and Obama, back toward the center, which for them is an extreme move to the right. He lives in the past, a Catholic Democrat Patriot remembering Harry Truman, and blindly pulling EVERY Democrat lever in sight. Same "folks" who returned Abscam Murtha to office last year.

Ask St. O'Reilly if he voted for Reagan.

49 posted on 02/28/2009 6:28:42 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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To: PalmettoMason

BO skeptic ping


50 posted on 02/28/2009 6:30:11 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Election of 2008: Given the choice between stupid and evil, the stupid chose evil.)
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