Skip to comments.Radio chip coming soon to your driver's license?
Posted on 02/28/2009 4:24:21 AM PST by Man50D
Privacy advocates are issuing warnings about a new radio chip plan that ultimately could provide electronic identification for every adult in the U.S. and allow agents to compile attendance lists at anti-government rallies simply by walking through the assembly.
The proposal, which has earned the support of Janet Napolitano, the newly chosen chief of the Department of Homeland Security , would embed radio chips in driver's licenses, or "enhanced driver's licenses."
"Enhanced driver's licenses give confidence that the person holding the card is the person who is supposed to be holding the card, and it's less elaborate than REAL ID," Napolitano said in a Washington Times report.
REAL ID is a plan for a federal identification system standardized across the nation that so alarmed governors many states have adopted formal plans to oppose it. However, a privacy advocate today told WND that the EDLs are many times worse.
Radio talk show host and identity chip expert Katherine Albrecht said REAL ID earned the opposition of Christians because of its resemblance to the biblical "mark of the beast," civil libertarians opposed it for its "big brother" connotations and others worried about identity theft issues with the proposed databases.
"We got rid of the REAL ID program, but [this one] is way more insidious," she said.
Enhanced driver's licenses have built-in radio chips providing an identifying number or information that can be accessed by a remote reading unit while the license is inside a wallet or purse.
The technology already had been implemented in Washington state, where it is promoted as an alternative to a passport for traveling to Canada. So far, the program is optional.
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I... don’t... like.. this...
But, but, we can trust our government Can't we?
If I squeeze the chip with a pair of Vice Grips, would it still work?
“I had no idea my wallet had gone into my microwave. Gee, my license looks fine to me. You mean it ruined some little chip thingie inside? Really?”
Note from the article that even CA legislature banned this chip and Ahnold vetoed the ban. What a maroon!
Yes. They are here to help.
If my wife washes my wallet again.... will the chip still work?
As long as all of our congress critters get chipped, and we can look up their locations on GPS at anytime.
Stick the chipped DL inside a faraday cage (foil envelope) and it's useless to Law Enforcement.
More Reasons in Support of Civil Disobedience.
Chipped License and ID cards? Uh...NO! Not just “NO”, but “Hell, NO!”
These jackbooted thugs need to be made to stop these illegal, immoral assaults on the freedoms guaranteed to us by the Constitution.
I fear for the future of this grand experiment.
It’s time to take back the country.
Gee, one might think that with this kind of technology available, we might be able to effectively control...oh, I don’t know....WHO IS VOTING THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE VOTING.
To guard against voter fraud, we have nothing that works. For this Big Brother stuff, BAM, here it is.
“As long as all of our congress critters get chipped, and we can look up their locations on GPS at anytime.”
As “security risks,” they will, of course, exempt themselves. I’m sure they’ll also make it illegal to deface said chip, find a way to raise the cost of the license by $300 to cover the costs (except for illegal aliens and minorities, of course - who will be PAID to carry the cards), and then make sure everyone complies by renaming it the “GOOD AND HAPPY CARD,” and requiring you swipe it before using your ATM or Credit Card anywhere “Just to make sure you are who you say you are.”
This is not a defense of illegals but I would rather be up to my keister in Mexicans than have a ID card with a permanent bug in it.
Hatred/contempt of basic human reality is a pillar of leftism. I know they don’t care. I just wanted to add some dots to their database...
I accidentally washed a memory stick. It went through both the washer and dryer cycles before I found it. Worked fine afterwards.
The owner will be getting a notice in the mail from a roadside detector: "Vehicle being operated with no licensed driver. $100 fine."
I wonder how many seconds of time in the microwave will be needed to cook the circuitry out of the license without melting the plastic card itself. Seems to me about 5 seconds will do it.
15 seconds in a microwave should cook any chip.
Keeping a clean license is of great importance in Tennessee where, regardless of age, you must show ID when buying beer. I recommend 30 minutes soaking in very hot dishwater.
I'd rather see 50 caliber machine gun nests placed every 300 yards or so along our southern border so that we don't have illegals here in the first place. Of course, I'm also against any kind of tracking capability in the hands of our "trustworthy" government.
The metal auto body will act as a partial RF shield, and indeed anyone attempting to read a RFID chip via a roadside detector must anticipate that some drivers may have put their wallets in the glove box or other area of the vehicle that will sufficiently shield the chip, or at least the chip’s response to inquiry. In this case such roadside query becomes a random survey that can never be used to enforce 100% compliance.
THe next step will be to make it illegal to do that.
considering how prevalent Hacking gadgets is these days , I say bring it on, we can then reprogram chip to somebody elses info, I suggest an Elected Official or Jack booted Thug (leo).
That will be the one exception where they won’t be allowed to wave their magick wand
“In this case such roadside query becomes a random survey that can never be used to enforce 100% compliance.”
Whats random about it, checkpoints work fine.
Leave the license clipped to the sunvisor or in the glove box unless you’re going to need the id some where. Having said that, what totalitarian, 1984-brained idiot came up with this idea?
‘and requiring you swipe it before using your ATM or Credit Card anywhere Just to make sure you are who you say you are.’
The wife and I had our ATM cards canceled because of a security breach.We were issued new ones but we haven’t activated them. We went back to using cash. It’s a bit more hassle but one thing I’ve noticed is we seem to get less junk mail.
It would be too big an imposition on the illegals.....
RFID Blocking Wallet
Barry is the Antichrist.
I'm afraid we will all wind up with both.....
“But, but, we can trust our government Can’t we?”
Not just no but HELL NO!
We can thank the folks at MADD for this. Their relentless year after year program of eroding individual rights is succeeding.
Ball-peen hammer. Small one. Smash the little f***er. It really pisses me off when administrative types make seriously bad decisions based on something they think is a “cool” idea but have no clue what the Hell they are doing.
The idea of RFID is ripe for abuse due primarily to the technical fact, something that escapes these liberal arts idiots, that someone can use a handheld reader and gather the information these RFID chips allow to be scanned from inches away.
A microchip serves absolutley no purpose. None.
I think accidentally microwaving your license would be a surer bet.
“Enhanced driver’s licenses have built-in radio chips providing an identifying number or information that can be accessed by a remote reading unit while the license is inside a wallet or purse.”
I’m not sure about the ability to read these things while in your wallet. My experience with these devices is that they have to be very near the scanner. There is nothing wrong with a chip that contains the same data written on the license as long as you have to present it to be read, and you are aware it is being looked at.
Most scanners aren’t designed to read them from more than a few inches away. That doesn’t mean it can’t be done.
There may be tradeoffs involved: a long-range “pirate” scanner might fry some chips or fail to interoperate with marginal tags, violate FCC rules, or require more expensive/sensitive components. None of these are a problem for somebody with malicious intent.
If they can do it to those, they will do it to you. Sooner or later.
RFID and GPS are two completely different technologies.
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