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California used to check prez candidates' eligibility
WND ^ | February 28, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/28/2009 6:57:36 AM PST by AJMCQ

A California lawsuit seeking documentation from Occidental College that could verify the nationality under which Barack Obama entered the school points out that the state formerly reviewed presidential candidates and disqualified those who were ineligible.

The arguments are raised in paperwork submitted by Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation, which has brought a lawsuit over Obama's eligibility.

Defense lawyers for Obama are trying to quash the request for Occidental records, arguing that any objections to Obama's presidential candidacy and victory should have been raised in Congress at the time of the Electoral College vote.

However, according to documentation in the lawsuit, the secretaries of state in California previously have exercised their election authority and have rejected candidates who did not qualify.

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1 posted on 02/28/2009 6:57:37 AM PST by AJMCQ
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To: AJMCQ
Again,Obama seeks only to hide and obstruct his records.

I have NO doubt Barack Hussein Obama is COnstitutionally ineligible;there is simply no other explanation which fits his actions as well.

2 posted on 02/28/2009 7:00:56 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: hoosierham

It may come out to be a wash. He may not be a natural born american, but he did pay his taxes </s>


3 posted on 02/28/2009 7:03:40 AM PST by shadeaud (It does not take a majority to prevail...but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting bru)
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To: shadeaud
“He may not be a natural born american, but he did pay his taxes”
Yep, and I think he's paid them with Hamas dollars.
4 posted on 02/28/2009 7:05:35 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 118)
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To: hoosierham

The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared inelgible.


5 posted on 02/28/2009 7:05:58 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: MrLee

And they will LOSE bigtime.....


6 posted on 02/28/2009 7:09:08 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

With the full force of the government on their side? I don’t think so. Ben Franklin said he gave us a Republican, if we could keep it. We couldn’t.


7 posted on 02/28/2009 7:13:47 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: MrLee
Let ANYBODY try!

If it comes to that,better now than later.

A worthless communist from abroad should not be occupying the White House.

8 posted on 02/28/2009 7:14:57 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: MrLee
The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared inelgible.

Exactly what the courts and other institutions are scared of: The reaction of the black community. They remember the strangle-lock the most recent Watts riots had on the entire country; the same thing happening simultaneously in every major city across the country is a hard thing to imagine.

I apologize for slavery every day. I am so SORRY it ever got started in this country.

9 posted on 02/28/2009 7:17:21 AM PST by Marauder (Politicians use words the way squids use ink.)
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To: AJMCQ

You know something stinks when you hire armies of Lawyers to prevent the simple release of one little record that could end all the suspicions overnight.


10 posted on 02/28/2009 7:20:29 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

You got that right!


11 posted on 02/28/2009 7:21:04 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: MrLee
Ben Franklin said he gave us a Republican, if we could keep it. We couldn’t.

Must've been John McCain.

12 posted on 02/28/2009 7:22:13 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: shadeaud

Follow the money.

Who’s payin for all these lawyers in all these states ?


13 posted on 02/28/2009 7:22:46 AM PST by maine-yankee2009
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To: MrLee
"The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared inelgible."


Bwahahahahaha ... that'll work out well for them.

14 posted on 02/28/2009 7:23:32 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: Piquaboy

Whether or not this is a crazy quest or legitimate..it is big news and the MSM is avoiding it. They should at least be reporting it as a wacho effort, but not ignoring it.


15 posted on 02/28/2009 7:23:34 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: MrLee

I don’t think “the Blacks will tear this country apart”,
though the race hustlers may give every indication they ‘
are about to.
I think millions of supporters will fall away from this
ersatz candidate, and for the first time in American History a President very early in his term will be stripped of authority, and EVERYONE associated with him, including all those “next in line” will get their just desserts in a nationwide orgy of profound disapproval. This is ONLY a fantasy if we can’t
bring enough attention to this most basic of issues, and highlight the fact that his lawyers are strenuously blocking all inquiries into his history that should have been unnecessary in the first place.
At the end of this process, FINALLY, ALL the red flags
that were there from the beginning, the ones all of us saw from the beginning,will be unfurled for ALL to see.


16 posted on 02/28/2009 7:26:00 AM PST by supremedoctrine ("One was drawing funny faces, but his own was grave"--Richard Hughes, A High Wind in Jamaica)
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To: MrLee
The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared inelgible.

But not until after 11:00 am, and not on Monday, or Friday, or Saturday or Sunday... Tuesday, since Wednesday is "hump" day and Thursday, you know, is almost the weekend anyways.

17 posted on 02/28/2009 7:26:18 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.)
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To: MrLee

Should have read: “ Ben Franklin said he gave us a Republic, if we could keep it. We couldn’t.”

Sorry.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 7:29:28 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

I agree.. so what if they riot if their false prophet gets exposed. I applaud every effort that keeps chipping away at all of the walls he and his handlers have established trying to protect his real identity. His is potentially the most elaborate con ever implemented against our nation.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 7:29:44 AM PST by DDLL
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To: MrLee

If that’s what it takes to keep our Constitution viable, so be it. The Supreme Court has said that some “don’t have standing” when bringing suit against Obama. Who has more “standing” than an American citizen?


20 posted on 02/28/2009 7:30:18 AM PST by RC2
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To: shadeaud

All he has to do is invoke the, “It was a mistake. A mistake that I deeply regret.” defense.

American (media) will praise him for his honesty and all will be forgotten.

(as usual)


21 posted on 02/28/2009 7:30:42 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: King Moonracer

The may tear the rest of the country apart, but God help anyone that comes withing 50 yards of THIS house.


22 posted on 02/28/2009 7:31:57 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: AJMCQ
The way he's ramming change so quickly down our throats, there's probably something hidden deep within the stimulus package that does away with the entire constitution and any any natural born citizenship silliness. /s sort of

Seriously, the longer the delay, the more chance he and his minions have of making sure all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed on the new and improved versions of documents. If not, then he'll just stomp his feet claiming his white granny never told him and that since he's so established in office the country should do away with such bothersome requirements. Besides, it was the idea of a bunch of old white dudes who wanted to keep the blacks down on the plantation (and you know what I'm talking about) and this is the younger, hipper, and hotter generation.

23 posted on 02/28/2009 7:34:46 AM PST by bgill
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To: AJMCQ
The Constitution of the United States of America, Article I, Section 5: Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members.

The ONLY people who have standing to bring a lawsuit to SCOTUS are Senators who were in office when BHO was in the Senate.

SCOTUS will not let the lawsuits be introduced for arguments BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION.

If these Lawyers want to bring a Lawsuit, I propose bringing a lawsuit against the entire SENATE for failure to "Judge" the "Qualifications" of then Senator BHO.

It's so much fun (sarcasm) to watch SCOTUS all of a sudden go defending the Constitution as written rather than as a 'living breathing' entity which BHO finds 'troubling.'
24 posted on 02/28/2009 7:37:00 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
And they will LOSE bigtime.....

Wishful thinking. The majority of the country is still under his spell. It'll be Reginald Denny on a nationwide scale.

25 posted on 02/28/2009 7:41:00 AM PST by bgill
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To: Oldexpat

The MSM is in the tank for their boy. They will not be reporting it. I do not understand why Fox is not reporting it. I think they are afraid, just like Hannity and Rush are.
I think they are afraid of what would happen if BO was taken out. You can guess what that would be.


26 posted on 02/28/2009 7:41:07 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: hoosierham

I’m not so sure. As time passes, I’m more inclined to think that Barry Soetoro may have been born in Hawaii, but that’s not the problem he’s so desperate to hide. My hunch is that he played the short con w/the admissions and tuition assistance offices at Occidental — it’s never been explained how his grandparents could afford the tuition — and it may well be that he used the ambiguity of his national identity to ‘get one over on whitey’ at a time when colleges were bending over backwards in their attempts to appear diverse and ‘nurturing.’ This would explain why he needs to hide his birth certificate AND his college records.


27 posted on 02/28/2009 7:56:21 AM PST by Clioman
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To: bgill
Good, then we can end this thing once and for all.

I am a big fan of taking a state like California (as an example) and making it a “Black Homeland”. Give it over to Jesse and Obama and offer all the blacks in this country some $ amount for reparations as long as they give up their citizenship and move to their new utopia. All other blacks (or whites/reds/yellows/greens) who choose to stay in the country will be citizens just like everyone else and will be required to stand on their own and not a “protected” racial group.

Back to the riots. If the blacks think that they will do anything more than damage their own communities, they are wrong. If any whites are harmed, it will be the libs. That is the last group of people the blacks should want to harm, given that white libs are the one who extend “protected” status to the blacks. Conservative whites like myself are able to protect themselves from this type of behavior. I pity the black who tries to break into my home or harm my family. It will be the last time they riot.

28 posted on 02/28/2009 8:09:10 AM PST by ThunderStruck94
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Is the POTUS a member of either house?


29 posted on 02/28/2009 8:12:30 AM PST by no-no bad dog
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To: MrLee
"The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared inelgible. "

THAT...we can fight. Blacks will destroy stores and burn police cars....the OBAMA GOVERNMENT will take our very country and lives as we know it away from us forever.

Unreasonable fear of blacks is what has got us into this mess to start with...don't be a wuss.
30 posted on 02/28/2009 8:24:23 AM PST by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity (bailout) we receive...think about it.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

He also stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.


31 posted on 02/28/2009 8:29:46 AM PST by getarope (I will give Obama as much respect as the MSM gave W.)
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To: AJMCQ
"Defense lawyers for Obama are trying to quash the request for Occidental records, arguing that any objections to Obama's presidential candidacy and victory should have been raised in Congress at the time of the Electoral College vote. "

That statement is one of the most telling and damning statements to his eligibility yet. If he was eligible without a doubt, he would have proven it by now.

However, the argument is taking a different spin now, and trying to make it a "timing" problem rather than a Constitutional one.

One poster said the "blacks would tear this country apart if he is declared ineligible". My question is, why won't all the other Americans tear it apart if allowed to retain the Presidency if he is, in fact, INELIGIBLE?

This is not a black/white issue, it's a Constitutional one...the Constitution that all of our leaders - including Obama - took an oath to defend. The military takes an oath to defend the Constitution...not the President.
32 posted on 02/28/2009 8:30:11 AM PST by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity (bailout) we receive...think about it.)
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To: AJMCQ

Seems like Obama just cannot get enough antibiotics to keep this little bug away.

BTW for those that have noticed I have been away from the boards, I’m back now.


33 posted on 02/28/2009 8:32:26 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: FrankR

Don’t fear blacks at all. Just stating the obvious.


34 posted on 02/28/2009 8:34:56 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

“The Constitution of the United States of America, Article I, Section 5: Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members.

The ONLY people who have standing to bring a lawsuit to SCOTUS are Senators who were in office when BHO was in the Senate.

SCOTUS will not let the lawsuits be introduced for arguments BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION.

If these Lawyers want to bring a Lawsuit, I propose bringing a lawsuit against the entire SENATE for failure to “Judge” the “Qualifications” of then Senator BHO.”

If this is true, every atty bringing suit needs to see this. Would it require a massive class action suit against the senate? .. and even with a suit against the senate, could it really force them to actually make the inquirys? If we’re counting on the likes of Polosi or Reed to be fair minded, then it’s moot. .. not going to happen. (not without a massive media circus to expose the con coverup - which is highly unlikely)


35 posted on 02/28/2009 9:03:37 AM PST by DDLL
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To: hoosierham

I think that he knows that he will eventually be found out. That explains his rush to do as much damage as quickly as possible.


36 posted on 02/28/2009 9:17:38 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: MrLee

They’ll tear up mostly their own neighborhoods.


37 posted on 02/28/2009 9:18:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. Margret Thatcher)
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To: MrLee
"The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared ineligible."

That is most probably an unavoidable conflict - regardless of the Obama issue.
It has been brewing for centuries, and gaining momentum the past 30 years...

38 posted on 02/28/2009 9:20:42 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: AJMCQ

BaRack’s just a FlimFlam ConMan


39 posted on 02/28/2009 9:22:15 AM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Barack Hugo Obama - has he ever criticized Hugo Chavez?)
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To: G.Mason
"The blacks will tear this country apart if he’s declared inelgible."

__________________________________________ Bwahahahahaha ... that'll work out well for them.

On the other hand If he were Muslim, then we probably, would cower down like England just did.

40 posted on 02/28/2009 9:24:26 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: MrLee
Ben Franklin said he gave us a Republic, if we could keep it. We couldn’t.”

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --
October 11, 1798 John Adams

41 posted on 02/28/2009 9:31:33 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
The Constitution of the United States of America, Article I, Section 5: Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members.

Notice this does not include the President, but each house and their members.

42 posted on 02/28/2009 9:48:41 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: itsahoot
"On the other hand If he were Muslim, then we probably, would cower down like England just did."


I'm sure many would, however this "we" won't. Great Briton isn't great at all. A mere shadow of what was once a great nation.

R.I.P. (or rather that should be R.I.A. ... Rest In Agony)


My line is drawn in the sand.

The moment these pukes come for our means of self protection, and come to take them from me, that will be the end.

There won't be any G. Mason to kick around anymore, and perhaps a few less of their servants.

43 posted on 02/28/2009 9:52:23 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“They’ll tear up mostly their own neighborhoods.”

Causing hundreds of dollars in damage that will cost the tax payers millions of dollars to repair.


44 posted on 02/28/2009 10:34:24 AM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.
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To: G.Mason
The moment these pukes come for our means of self protection, and come to take them from me, that will be the end.

Do you remember the movie Crocodile Dundee? That movie was based on a real person, he was shot and killed by the Australian military, when he refused to give up his guns. This took place in a Democracy.

45 posted on 02/28/2009 11:22:27 AM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: AJMCQ
Sooner or later somebody is gonna leak the documentation about this clown and I've got “bank” that he is as phony as a three-dollar-bill!
46 posted on 02/28/2009 11:34:18 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: itsahoot

“Do you remember the movie Crocodile Dundee? That movie was based on a real person, he was shot and killed by the Australian military, when he refused to give up his guns. This took place in a Democracy.”

Really? Where can I find more info on this?


47 posted on 02/28/2009 11:55:48 AM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: AJMCQ
Lets say he is declared ineligible, hypothetically speaking.
POTUS becomes Joking Joe and does that make all BHO’s cabinet appointments null and void?
48 posted on 02/28/2009 12:12:23 PM PST by Polynikes
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To: MrLee
His name his Rodney Ansell. He died in 1999 in a shootout wih police
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/412364.stm
From Wkipedia
“After drinking with his friend, Jim Mesaros, he decided to assault an officer. He was killed in a shootout with police, just south of Darwin. Ansell was fired upon after ambushing Sgt. Glen Huitson and his partner. After a brief but intense shootout Ansell was also killed. He was found barefoot, with two high-powered rifles. Authorities had been searching for 12 hours to find an attacker of a nearby house”
49 posted on 02/28/2009 12:23:07 PM PST by Polynikes
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To: Polynikes

Looks like it was his own fault, plus he might have been drunk. Thanks for the info.


50 posted on 02/28/2009 12:33:10 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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