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Experts trying to decipher ancient language
Ap via Excite.com ^ | Feb 28, 2009 | By BARRY HATTON

Posted on 02/28/2009 12:35:50 PM PST by ApplegateRanch

When archaeologists on a dig in southern Portugal last year flipped over a heavy chunk of slate and saw writing not used for more than 2,500 years, they were elated.

The enigmatic pattern of inscribed symbols curled symmetrically around the upper part of the rough-edged, yellowish stone tablet and coiled into the middle in a decorative style typical of an extinct Iberian language called Southwest Script.

"We didn't break into applause, but almost," says Amilcar Guerra, a University of Lisbon lecturer overseeing the excavation. "It's an extraordinary thing."

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.excite.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; linguistics; portugal; tartessos
No photos, but Wiki has some at Tartessian_script

Also, check Tartessos

1 posted on 02/28/2009 12:35:50 PM PST by ApplegateRanch
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


2 posted on 02/28/2009 12:36:52 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

3 posted on 02/28/2009 12:39:41 PM PST by pabianice
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To: ApplegateRanch
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine."

4 posted on 02/28/2009 12:45:52 PM PST by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: pabianice

Daniel?


5 posted on 02/28/2009 12:47:19 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: ApplegateRanch

I read that they translated the tablet just today. It says “People of the future, beware of The One named Obama if you value your culture, freedom and wallet.”


6 posted on 02/28/2009 12:48:10 PM PST by LostInBayport (When more than 98% of the Republicans on Capitol Hill vote against a bill, it is not bipartisan.)
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To: AFreeBird
Daniel?

Jack? Sam? Teal'c?

7 posted on 02/28/2009 12:50:48 PM PST by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com)
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To: ApplegateRanch

8 posted on 02/28/2009 12:53:16 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: pabianice

Hummm..... Base 3?


9 posted on 02/28/2009 12:59:03 PM PST by An Old Man (Use it up, Wear it out, Make it do, or Do without.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Reformed Egyptian?


10 posted on 02/28/2009 1:07:38 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (buckle in for 4 more years of detached, grandstanding flourish left untethered by an incurious media)
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To: greyfoxx39
Reformed Egyptian?

LOL

11 posted on 02/28/2009 1:18:12 PM PST by Netizen
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To: ApplegateRanch
Southwest Script?

Maybe the Southwest Airlines in-flight magazine will have an article on this.

12 posted on 02/28/2009 1:27:56 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ApplegateRanch

Iway uspectsay itway isway anway ancientway ormfay ofway igpay atinlay.


13 posted on 02/28/2009 2:29:17 PM PST by bgill
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To: AHerald

LOL

I was going to go for

Drink more Olv....

or

Eat at Joes


14 posted on 02/28/2009 2:30:08 PM PST by ASOC (This space could be employed, if I could only get a bailout...)
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To: Netizen
¿¿¿ɔıxǝןsʎp sɐʍ oɥʍ ǝuoǝɯos ʎq uǝʇʇıɹʍ uǝǝq ǝʌɐɥ pןnoɔ ʇı ʎןqıssod
15 posted on 02/28/2009 3:10:24 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (buckle in for 4 more years of detached, grandstanding flourish left untethered by an incurious media)
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To: ApplegateRanch
"We didn't break into applause, but almost," says Amilcar Guerra ...

Slightly off subject but I'm struck by this gent's name. Anybody remember the 1st great Carthaginian General of the Punic Wars? Hamilcar Barca was both that and the father of the famous Hannibal Barca of 'over the Alps with Elephants' and crushing Rome [almost]. Hamilcar conquered much of the Iberian Peninsula (Spain & Portugal) before dying. Given the frequently silent 'h', one wonders if history lives in his name?

Also commend to Alternative History SF aficionados the S.M.Stirling Trilogy, "Island in the Sea of Time" where a main opposition character is a native Tartessian. This is a well done series about Nantucket Island being transposed to 1350 BC and encounters with an active Stonehenge community and Troy and Odysseus. The Tartessian antagonist is motivated because the modern history books of 1999 AD have bare mention of his nation and culture!

16 posted on 02/28/2009 3:13:41 PM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: SES1066

... I’m struck by this gent’s name.

Good catch!


17 posted on 02/28/2009 3:24:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ApplegateRanch
The enigmatic pattern of inscribed symbols curled symmetrically around the upper part of the rough-edged, yellowish stone tablet and coiled into the middle in a decorative style typical of an extinct Iberian language called Southwest Script.

Go

Perhaps now we'll get to the bottom of this Dighton Rock business.

18 posted on 02/28/2009 3:33:14 PM PST by Oratam
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To: ApplegateRanch

We are going to find out that this is not a language, but simply early gang symbols/graffiti.


19 posted on 02/28/2009 3:49:41 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: ApplegateRanch

All I can say about this is, bilaketak egitean edozein alfabeto erabili ahal duzu eta datu-basean agertzen diren erdal formak ere aurkitzen ahaleginduko da bilatzailea.


20 posted on 02/28/2009 3:55:19 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: filbert

It’s obviously either Goa’uld or Ancient.


21 posted on 02/28/2009 4:42:01 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: SES1066
S.M.Stirling Trilogy, "Island in the Sea of Time"

Heigh-ho, heigh-ho, off to Amazon I go!

Usually not my favorite sub-genre of SF, but this one sounds interesting. Thanks!

22 posted on 02/28/2009 4:49:30 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
I warn all conservatives who read that trilogy that there is a point when you will want to toss it across the room. Keep going, there is a payoff.
23 posted on 02/28/2009 4:55:40 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Faith Manages.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thanks! OTOH, I survived the crap English 1-A/2-A English Lit instructors required us to read. And that was back the Bad Old Days, when SF was proscribed as ‘mere genre’, that no amount of salt, let alone a grain, could make “respectable”.


24 posted on 02/28/2009 5:06:47 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
S.M.Stirling Trilogy, "Island in the Sea of Time"

I don't think you will regret it, his cast of characters for the very large part ring true. My personal recommendation would be to buy a used copy of "Island" If you like it then go for the full set. In my personal opinion the 2nd volume is better and the third is in between but what do I know!

25 posted on 02/28/2009 5:46:59 PM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
I have already translated it.

"You have nothing to fear, we are from your government and we will take care of you......"

26 posted on 02/28/2009 5:49:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Welcome to Detroit, the Renaissance city......)
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To: SES1066

Thanks again. I usually do use the Amazon ‘buy used’ for things I’m not certain about.


27 posted on 02/28/2009 5:58:17 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: ApplegateRanch
OTOH, I survived the crap English 1-A/2-A English Lit instructors required us to read.

Given that a large number of 'English' teachers, professors and instructors were and are dyed-in-the-wool members of the Modern Language Association (MLA), I think that they would do away with English itself if they could figure out a logical way of doing it. Being that logic is not their strong suit, they just continue with fond paeans to deconstructionism and Marxist rhetoric.

As for Science Fiction, it was a SF Author Ted Sturgeon, who formulated the best reply to criticism of the genre when he replied that 90% of EVERYTHING was dreck. I think in the original there was another word used instead of dreck ...

28 posted on 02/28/2009 5:59:54 PM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: ApplegateRanch; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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29 posted on 02/28/2009 6:06:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: greyfoxx39

How you do dat?


30 posted on 02/28/2009 6:30:09 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. - B.Franklin)
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To: SunkenCiv; ApplegateRanch

If old H.T. woulda just crawled back under her rock she would have found the answer to her question, instead of badgering po’ ol’ O about it. It could have been a croning achievement...


31 posted on 02/28/2009 6:30:09 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

I could tell ya, but then...


32 posted on 02/28/2009 6:31:08 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: bigheadfred
I could tell ya, but then...

You can tell me; I got a FR clearance AND decoder ring!

33 posted on 02/28/2009 6:49:13 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. - B.Franklin)
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To: SES1066

Sturgeon’s Law. Yes, the original was more pithy.

Since I was in school, SF has gone from proscribed pariah to a graduate degree course of study; from sub-counterculture, to mainstream.

Better pay and markets for the authors, but a lot less fan-fun and freewheeling fan-pro mixing at the conventions.


34 posted on 02/28/2009 8:13:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (If Liberalism doesn't kill me, I'll live 'till I die!)
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To: bigheadfred

< upside down > < / upside down > ?


35 posted on 02/28/2009 8:19:58 PM PST by txhurl (ralph...)
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To: txhurl; ForGod'sSake
http://www.sevenwires.com/play/UpsideDownLetters.html

˙ʎɐʍ ʇsǝısɐǝ ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ

36 posted on 03/01/2009 7:39:29 AM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: ApplegateRanch; greyfoxx39
It's a cookbook!


37 posted on 03/01/2009 11:11:10 AM PST by SkyPilot
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