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‘Socialism!’ Boo, Hiss, Repeat
New York Times ^ | February 28, 2009 | Mark Leibovich

Posted on 02/28/2009 3:10:11 PM PST by reaganaut1

Washington — Conservatives might be seeking a spiritual leader, organizing principle and fresh identity, but they at least seem to have settled on a favorite rhetorical ogre: socialism.

As in, Democrats are intent on forcing socialism on the “U.S.S.A” (as the bumper sticker says, under the words “Comrade Obama”).

It seems that “socialist” has supplanted “liberal” as the go-to slur among much of a conservative world confronting a one-two-three punch of bank bailouts, budget blowouts and stimulus bills. Right-leaning bloggers and talk radio hosts are wearing out the brickbat. Senate and House Republicans have been tripping over their podiums to invoke it. The S-bomb has become as surefire a red-meat line at conservative gatherings as “Clinton” was in the 1990s and “Pelosi” is today.

“Earlier this week, we heard the world’s best salesman of socialism address the nation,” Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina, said on Friday, referring, naturally, to a certain socialist in chief.

Former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas decried the creation of “socialist republics” in the United States. “Lenin and Stalin would love this stuff,” Mr. Huckabee said, speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference here over the weekend, a kind of Woodstock for young conservatives.

“Socialism is something new for us to hit Obama over the head with,” said Joshua Bolin of Augusta, Ga., who founded a Web site, “Reagan.org,” which he calls a conservative analog to the liberal MoveOn.org.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; demint; huckabee; kenyanfraud; obama; obamacommie; obamasocialist; reagan; socialism; socialists
Calling a spade a spade.
1 posted on 02/28/2009 3:10:12 PM PST by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Doesn’t like the “S” word. What a wimp.


2 posted on 02/28/2009 3:11:35 PM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: reaganaut1

3 posted on 02/28/2009 3:14:46 PM PST by Cyberrat (Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
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To: reaganaut1
I may not be here in person but I'm watching you from above. Yes, I'm talking about you, Hussein Obama. "Don't mess with America"


4 posted on 02/28/2009 3:16:37 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Earthdweller

>> Doesn’t like the “S” word. What a wimp.

Yeah, well, he’s from the NYT. Just got one thing to say to you, Leibovich, sucka:

“Unemployed, boy! Laid off! Boo, hiss repeat!”

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving pile of dog doo.


5 posted on 02/28/2009 3:17:19 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Party? I don't have one anymore.)
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To: reaganaut1

6 posted on 02/28/2009 3:17:38 PM PST by Maceman
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To: reaganaut1
Government is taking over the means of production in banking and medicine and stepping right up to the line in automobiles. If it isn't socialism yet it is something hairsplittingly close.
7 posted on 02/28/2009 3:18:57 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Obama: removing the speed limit on the Road to Serfdom)
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To: reaganaut1
Calling a spade a spade.

Al Sharpton would consider that a racial slur.

8 posted on 02/28/2009 3:20:24 PM PST by tbpiper (Irate and tireless....but mostly irate.)
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To: reaganaut1

What? What’s the matter Mark Leibovich, don’t you like working for TASS/PRAVDA?


9 posted on 02/28/2009 3:22:31 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: reaganaut1

Mitterand, the French Socialist President, is the one who coined the Change campaign theme years ago in order to justify all kinds of crookedness.


10 posted on 02/28/2009 3:24:58 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: reaganaut1

Obama cares not about the economy. This is an undeclared war.


11 posted on 02/28/2009 3:26:35 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: tbpiper
Calling a spade a spade.

Al Sharpton would consider that a racial slur.


Yeah, we'd better watch it, or we will end up getting "blackballed." >B-D

"Please, don't throw me into that briar patch!" >B-D
12 posted on 02/28/2009 3:27:29 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: SandRat

“What? What’s the matter Mark Leibovich, don’t you like working for TASS/PRAVDA?”

Mark Leibovich? Another New York liberal Jew whose parents probably came off the boat and voted Democrat.


13 posted on 02/28/2009 3:28:30 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information and you control the people.)
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To: Cyberrat

Obama is starting to look a LOT like a “Salvador Allende”. Obama, like Allende was elected by the people and the Socialist bastard proceeded to destroyed Chile.
The US DOES NOT need an Allende!


14 posted on 02/28/2009 3:29:55 PM PST by WellyP
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To: Nowhere Man

I will not renege on my promise to avoid controversial words.


15 posted on 02/28/2009 3:30:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (We seem to be experiencing a tsunami of tsunami analogies.)
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To: reaganaut1

Those who accuse the present crop of Democrats of being socialists are pretty much right on the mark.


16 posted on 02/28/2009 3:30:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: reaganaut1

It seems that “socialist” has supplanted “liberal”

The truth hurts.


17 posted on 02/28/2009 3:31:00 PM PST by saganite (What would Sully do?)
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To: reaganaut1

Never worked anywhere . . . Europe, Asia, Russia, USA inner cities.

Won’t work here either.


18 posted on 02/28/2009 3:32:25 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: reaganaut1

Obama is starting to look a LOT like a “Salvador Allende”. Obama, like Allende was elected by the people and the Socialist bastard proceeded to destroyed Chile.
The US DOES NOT need an Allende!


19 posted on 02/28/2009 3:34:58 PM PST by WellyP
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To: Jeff Chandler
I will not renege on my promise to avoid controversial words. Me neither.
20 posted on 02/28/2009 3:35:24 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Is Barak HUSSEIN Obama an Anti-Christ? - B.O. Stinks! (Robert Riddle))
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To: reaganaut1; All

Remember, folks, these are the same people who demonized and ridiculed Joseph McCarthy, called him a red-baited who saw non-existent communists in every dark corner.

Hussein isn’t even hiding his socialism.


21 posted on 02/28/2009 3:39:14 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Evil Slayer

That needs to be a poster.


22 posted on 02/28/2009 3:42:15 PM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: reaganaut1

the Conservative Political Action Conference here over the weekend, a kind of Woodstock for young conservatives.


Let’s see. Woodstock was a rock festival that was held outdoors on a farm. CPAC is a three-day conference in a large Washington, D.C. hotel. Would the NY Times write that the FOSE conference is “a kind of Woodstock” for federal office systems users?

And when did “Woodstock” become a pejorative reference in the NY Times style book? Interesting.


23 posted on 02/28/2009 3:45:25 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: WellyP
"Obama is starting to look a LOT like a “Salvador Allende”"

Very astute (and frightening) observation! Frankly this whole thing is getting pretty frightening. The mind boggling worldwide worship if this guy is so so dangerous. And the dismissive mocking by the MSM over concerns of socialism is unforgivable propagandizing indeed.

24 posted on 02/28/2009 4:02:18 PM PST by Cyberrat (Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
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To: reaganaut1
OK, if they don't like the S Word, we'll just go straight to the Big C Word.

Communist

25 posted on 02/28/2009 4:02:41 PM PST by two23
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To: two23

Socialism is the rest stop on the way from Capitalism to communism.


26 posted on 02/28/2009 4:07:57 PM PST by Right_Handed_Writer (He's a product, not a president)
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To: reaganaut1
The early fiscal activism of President Obama...

Like all (I'm just assuming here) socialists, Mister Leibovich describes socialism in the most benign of terms. "Fiscal activist"?

I, for one, am not so sure that Marxist Obama (notice, I didn't say "socialist") would be content with European style socialism. From all outward appearances, and reading between the lines of his speeches, I would say that I fear that his designs on this great Republic are more inline with EASTERN European Socialism.

But here are some questions I have for Mister Leibovich.

Mark, ol' chum.

Have you, or anyone at the NYT, or any of your journalistic associates ever posed the following to alleged President Obama?

1. President Obama, please rank yourself on the following spectrum, with (1) being most disposed toward communism, socialism, government ownership of businesses, and less freedom and private property, and collusion with groups to thwart fair elections; and with (5) being the most proud of our Republic, and the most disposed to personal freedom, personal resonsibility, property and gun rights, and free and fair elections. (Bill Ayers and Frank Davis rate ones); (Ronald Reagan would rate a five.)

2. Please rank the following leaders in order of whom you would most model your presidency...

- Ronald Reagan

- Pol Pot

- Mao Tse Tung

- FDR

- Winston Churchill

- Margaret Thatcher

- Woodrow Wilson

- Josef Stalin

- Fidel Castro

- George W. Bush, and...

- Hugo Chavez.

.

(3) (Bonus question) How important to you is character? How important is it to you to tell the truth? How important is it to you to allow dissent (among reporters and the general population)? Being clear, concise, and specific, what do you mean by "change"; and name 5 things about America that need changing (from what to what). No generalities, please.

.

I'm quite confident that you never will never ask these questions, or questions like them.

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27 posted on 02/28/2009 4:09:34 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: reaganaut1

I call Obama’s dream the Socialist Republic of America (SRA).


28 posted on 02/28/2009 4:16:29 PM PST by Elsiejay
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To: Right_Handed_Writer
Socialism is the rest stop on the way from Capitalism to communism.

Good one! I always refer to Socialism as the welcome mat to Communism.

29 posted on 02/28/2009 4:17:44 PM PST by two23
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To: rlmorel
Hussein isn’t even hiding his socialism.
He sure didn't openly run on it in the campaign, tho . . .

30 posted on 02/28/2009 4:18:14 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: Cyberrat

Cool photoshop


31 posted on 02/28/2009 4:27:29 PM PST by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: reaganaut1
“as the go-to slur”

This coming from the New York Times. When did they start worrying about slurring people? Don't they make their living using this practice?

32 posted on 02/28/2009 4:34:53 PM PST by Anti-Christ is Hillary (If Moreen Dowd can call herself a journalist then so can I.)
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To: KarlInOhio

When did the tail start wagging the dog instead of the other way around? Before we know it, we’ll all be living in Big Chicagoland, the political scene is so corrupted on the national level and cynically so.


33 posted on 02/28/2009 4:42:19 PM PST by Twinkie (Obama is NOT Reagan !)
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To: reaganaut1

I cannot wait for this rag to go broke.


34 posted on 02/28/2009 5:13:49 PM PST by DOGEY
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To: reaganaut1

I believe FR was the first ones to coin the phrase “USSA” before the election! It’s beginning to catch on...GREAT!


35 posted on 02/28/2009 5:27:16 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: reaganaut1
“socialist” has supplanted “liberal” as the go-to slur

Conservatives have finally decided to be honest after all these decades. I would also point out that it's not a slur - it's the simple truth (hint - which party does Senator Bernie Sanders, Socialist, from Vermont, always vote with?). That one statement told me all I need to know about the author's politics.

36 posted on 02/28/2009 5:45:16 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: reaganaut1

Soon, very soon..all these lying, diseased souled, plague rats of the new York Times, are all going to be out of work.

The wrecking balls will be busting up the walls of their rat warren.


37 posted on 02/28/2009 5:56:22 PM PST by DGHoodini (God's gonna getcha!)
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To: reaganaut1

liberal..democrat..socialist..communist...fascist.....No difference in the end when their masks come off.


38 posted on 02/28/2009 5:58:48 PM PST by DGHoodini (God's gonna getcha!)
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To: reaganaut1

will someone stand up for FREEDOM its WAR


39 posted on 02/28/2009 6:06:07 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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To: patriotmediaa

Braveheart - FREEDOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evynMPaGd6w


40 posted on 02/28/2009 6:10:10 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I believe, and have always believed that Liberals will tell you exactly what they think and what they plan to do.

All you have to do is listen. Sometimes it takes a while, and you have to be patient. But like a moon hidden behind clouds, every once in a while there is a break in those clouds and you see it clearly.

It isn’t easy for them to keep their guard up all the time. It is why conspiracies are the fallback for the weak minded...you have to be on all the time, and even the most dedicated leftist is, in the end, human. They get tired, distracted or, occasionally bold and then they lose focus. Then, if you have been listening, you get comments like “...I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody...” that just pop right out.

Often, in Orwellian fashion, all references to it are minimized or expunged from the news that is disseminated to the consumers of that news. There is no conspiracy there, only the simple fact that most of the media have the same outlook and the same goals. They don’t need a fax from the DNC to seemingly act in concert with each other. I love it when someone like Rush Limbaugh points that out, and uses as evidence (or a prop) recordings demonstrating all the news outlets using the exact same verbiage, especially when they use a word like “gravitas” that normal people just wouldn’t generally use but they all use it at the same time in the same way.

In any case, it was clear from day one who Obama was and what he stood for. I remember reading from the first public whiffs of B.O.’s presidential aspirations that he was a “Community Organizer”, and I knew exactly what that meant.

Workers of the World Unite.


41 posted on 02/28/2009 8:18:43 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: All
Thank you for posting this excerpt, since I can avoid soiling my browser clicking on the link to read the rest. What stands out to me is the way this liberal writer views the way conservatives point out the truth. Just in this short excerpt, there were these:

"...they at least seem to have settled on a favorite rhetorical ogre: socialism..."
(a rhetorical ogre. Liberals hate it when you tell the truth about them. It really sets them off)

"...It seems that “socialist” has supplanted “liberal” as the go-to slur among much of a conservative world ..."
(Well. I guess it was time to find a new trial for liberals to say they have been persecuted under. McCarthyism is so old that most Americans don't even know it had to do with communists in the government. So Liberals have to find themselves a new McCarthyism.)

"...The S-bomb has become as surefire a red-meat line at conservative gatherings..."
(The S-bomb. Liberals hate language, especially descriptive language that actually means something. They think that if they transform a word or phrase then that changes the underlying truth about it. Case in point, their gradual replacement of the word "Gay" for "Homosexual". They call "Discrimination" "Affirmative Action". They refuse to define themselves as "Liberal", but instead use "Progressive". And instead of calling "Abortion" what it is, they call it "Choice". And one more thing: Red Meat. Why always "Red Meat"? Perhaps it is what is usually fed to the "Primitives" which is how the snobby liberals used to refer to conservatives before the public schools became so dumbed down by liberal policies the the graduates entering the electorate couldn't understand the intended insult, and it fell out of vogue.)

"...a kind of Woodstock for young conservatives...."
(Good God. If that isn't projection, I don't know what is. At least he didn't say it was a "Mecca". Wouldn't want to sully that special place by implying conservatives might have one too. In any case, I don't think you will see a lot of young conservatives there wandering around naked in the rain, covered with mud trying to figure out where they left their last brain cell that wasn't saturated with LSD)

"...Socialism is something new for us to hit Obama over the head with..."
("us" to hit him over the head with? What, does this guy have a rock in his pocket? Instead of a cudgel "we" hit him with, perhaps socialism should instead be described as a rope that he can hang himself with. That wouldn't be a problem, but our entire country is going to hang along with him if he succeeds.

I am reminded of this masterful Eric Allie cartoon (In my opinion, the BEST political cartoonist alive today, liberal OR conservative.) This applies to Obama just as much as Chavez:

42 posted on 02/28/2009 8:58:41 PM PST by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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