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7 Major "Missing Links" Since Darwin
National Geographic ^ | March 2009 | Zina Deretsky, National Science Foundation

Posted on 03/01/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by Salman

For the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth (February 12, 2009), National Geographic News asked leading scientists for their picks of the most important fossils that show evolution in action ...

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


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Lots of pictures at the source.
1 posted on 03/01/2009 5:30:40 AM PST by Salman
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To: Salman

There are billions of missing links. Darwin’s theory is just that, a theory.


2 posted on 03/01/2009 5:36:30 AM PST by scottinoc ("Katie, you're not the center of everyone's universe."-Gov Palin)
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To: Salman
I don't believe in evolution. Why are there only seven “missing links”? There should be millions of them. They have tidied up and adjusted things to fit but I do not believe.
3 posted on 03/01/2009 5:39:49 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Salman

Hey, did anybody notice the well toned arms on the Homo Ergaster chick?


4 posted on 03/01/2009 5:40:29 AM PST by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: Salman
"Lots of pictures at the source."

lol!! yes, 6 DRAWINGS(*), 1 FISH.

(*) one of the DRAWINGS is an imaginative half-monkey, half-human DARK-SKINNED female/lady with saggy animal boobies.

The imagination of evolutionists never ceases to stagger me.
5 posted on 03/01/2009 5:42:06 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Jaxter

Wow. Nice.


6 posted on 03/01/2009 5:43:27 AM PST by steveyp
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To: mountainlion
I don't believe in evolution.

Do you believe the Earth is only about ten thousand years old?

7 posted on 03/01/2009 5:44:21 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Salman

8 posted on 03/01/2009 5:49:32 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . John Galt hell !...... where is Francisco dÂ’Anconia)
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To: mountainlion
""I don't believe in evolution."

Do you believe the Earth is only about ten thousand years old?"

Don't let them make it an age of the Earth argument. Look at how they always twist it that way. Manipulative evolutionists always try to twist the argument.

The issue here is utterly disproven and discredited EVOLUTION, which they have ZERO evidence for.

Nice drawings though.
9 posted on 03/01/2009 5:49:43 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: raybbr

Well, it’s for no reason that old antibiotics are rendered ineffective.

Natural selection? Whoa, it can’t be true!


10 posted on 03/01/2009 5:52:41 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: mountainlion
Did you even bother to read the first paragraph?

"National Geographic News asked leading scientists for their picks of the most important fossils that show evolution in action—seven of which are presented here"

11 posted on 03/01/2009 5:55:26 AM PST by Kolb ("Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: mountainlion

.......I don’t believe in evolution......

When you make that statement you clearly illustrate your total lack of comprehension. Unlike Genesis myth which must be accepted on faith alone, Science must be studied and understood. You can’t believe in evolution. You must have an understanding of the underlying science.

The problem basically boils down to ignorance. Ignorance can be solved by study of scientific works and by, most importantly, work in the lab or field.


12 posted on 03/01/2009 5:58:32 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . John Galt hell !...... where is Francisco dÂ’Anconia)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

And what evidence aside from Faith proves the existence of GOD? I’m not saying GOD does not exist but it cannot be proven empirically.


13 posted on 03/01/2009 6:01:31 AM PST by Kolb ("Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: bert
When you make that statement you clearly illustrate your total lack of comprehension...

I guess it's settled. Your argument wins... /s

14 posted on 03/01/2009 6:02:32 AM PST by WVKayaker (When you come to a fork in the road, take it. -Yogi Berra)
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To: bert

15 posted on 03/01/2009 6:02:58 AM PST by Blogger (Remember Nineveh)
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To: Salman

The missing link is faith.


16 posted on 03/01/2009 6:03:54 AM PST by RoadTest (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jer.17:9)
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To: raybbr

Do you believe the earth is flat. Good chance you do if you believe in evolution.


17 posted on 03/01/2009 6:04:11 AM PST by gscc
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To: Kolb

“And what evidence aside from Faith proves the existence of GOD? I’m not saying GOD does not exist but it cannot be proven empirically”

That’s fine, guy. The parity argument is fine. So evolution is just the same as a religion, so why is it promoted with tax dollars?


18 posted on 03/01/2009 6:05:42 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

?? I thought it was the churches that don’t pay any taxes.


19 posted on 03/01/2009 6:10:44 AM PST by battletank
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To: battletank
every day millions of schoolchildren are indoctrinated with the Humanist religion at schools, including its major plank the Evolution Doctrine, paid for by tax dollars, which is directly against the 1st amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
20 posted on 03/01/2009 6:13:56 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Salman; metmom
Sorry, I'm going to have to call BS on this one. Everybody with anything resembling brains or talent who's ever taken any sort of a look at that situation in the last 60 years has said the same basic thing i.e. that there simply ARE NO missing links or intermediate fossils. The lack of intermediate fossils is one of the two main motivations for the new version of evolution which you read about i.e. the Gould/Eldridge/Mayr notion of punctuated equilibria, or "punk-eek". If there were missing links lying around all over the place, Gould and his pals would not have bothered.

The Fossils In General

"Despite the bright promise that paleontology provides a means of 'seeing' evolution, it has presented some nasty difficulties for evolutionists, the most notorious of which is the presence of 'gaps' in the fossil record. Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them ..."

David B. Kitts, PhD (Zoology)
Head Curator, Dept of Geology, Stoval Museum
Evolution, vol 28, Sep 1974, p 467

"The curious thing is that there is a consistency about the fossil gaps; the fossils are missing in all the important places."

Francis Hitching
The Neck of the Giraffe or Where Darwin Went Wrong
Penguin Books, 1982, p.19

"The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution."

Stephen Jay Gould, Prof of Geology and
Paleontology, Harvard University
"Is a new general theory of evolution emerging?"
Paleobiology, vol 6, January 1980, p. 127

"...Yet Gould and the American Museum people are hard to contradict when they say there are no transitional fossils ... I will lay it on the line, there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument."

Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist,
British Museum of Natural History, London
As quoted by: L. D. Sunderland
Darwin's Enigma: Fossils and Other Problems
4th edition, Master Books, 1988, p. 89

"We do not have any available fossil group which can categorically be claimed to be the ancestor of any other group. We do not have in the fossil record any specific point of divergence of one life form for another, and generally each of the major life groups has retained its fundamental structural and physiological characteristics throughout its life history and has been conservative in habitat."

G. S. Carter, Professor & author
Fellow of Corpus Christi College
Cambridge, England
Structure and Habit in Vertebrate Evolution
University of Washington Press, 1967

"The history of most fossil species includes two features inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear ... 2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and 'fully formed'."

Stephen Jay Gould, Prof of Geology and
Paleontology, Harvard University
Natural History, 86(5):13, 1977

"But, as by this theory innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?" (p. 206)

"Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory (of evolution)." (p. 292)

Charles Robert Darwin
The Origin of Species, 1st edition reprint
Avenel Books, 1979

The Abundance of Fossils

"Darwin... was embarrassed by the fossil record... we are now about 120-years after Darwin and the knowledge of the fossil record has been greatly expanded. We now have a quarter of a million fossil species but the situation hasn't changed much. The record of evolution is still surprisingly jerky and, ironically, ... some of the classic cases of Darwinian change in the fossil record, such as the evolution of the horse in North America, have had to be discarded or modified as a result of more detailed information."

David M. Raup, Curator of Geology
Field Museum of Natural History, Chicago
"Conflicts Between Darwin and Paleontology"
Field Museum of Natural History
Vol. 50, No. 1, (Jan, 1979), p. 25

"Now, after over 120 years of the most extensive and painstaking geological exploration of every continent and ocean bottom, the picture is infinitely more vivid and complete than it was in 1859. Formations have been discovered containing hundreds of billions of fossils and our museums are filled with over 100-million fossils of 250,000 different species. The availability of this profusion of hard scientific data should permit objective investigators to determine if Darwin was on the right track. What is the picture which the fossils have given us? ... The gaps between major groups of organisms have been growing even wide and more undeniable. They can no longer be ignored or rationalized away with appeals to imperfection of the fossil record."

Luther D. Sunderland (Creationist)
Darwin's Enigma: Fossils and Other Problems,
4th edition, Master Books, 1988, p. 9

"My attempts to demonstrate evolution by an experiment carried on for more than 40 years have completely failed. ... The fossil material is now so complete that it has been possible to construct new classes, and the lack of transitional series cannot be explained as being due to the scarcity of material. The deficiencies are real, they will never be filled."

Prof N. Heribert Nilsson
Lund University, Sweden
Famous botanist and evolutionist
As quoted in: The Earth Before Man, p. 51

21 posted on 03/01/2009 6:16:25 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: bert; mountainlion
When you make that statement you clearly illustrate your total lack of comprehension.

I don't think it's a comprehension issue but one of semantics.

When 'mountainlion' states "I don't believe in evolution" it seems clear to me that what was meant was "I don't believe that evolution as a mechanism for changes in species has been solidly proven and is poor theory".

Did you think 'mountainlion' thought evolution to be a religion or faith? It seems that way from your response. Sometimes you have to read a bit more into people's words when they fail to properly express themselves.

No offense intended...I'm just observing over coffee this morning.
If I'm off base, I'll sit down and shut up.

22 posted on 03/01/2009 6:19:33 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The love we hold back is the only pain we take with us after death.)
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To: Salman

One of the problems about the creation/evolution debate is the nature of how God creates. Creationists insist that god is confined to a time line that proceeds from a starting point in the past and moves to the future and they adopt the same time reference which evolutionists use.

Creationists ignore the possibility that God can create outside of time. They are troubled with the idea that God might have “placed fossils” in the earth at the same time he created the earth because this makes it seem God is deceitful.

I would like to suggest that two of Jesus’s miracles as well as the creation of Adam demonstrate that God can create something in the present something that required the death of something and a process that ordinarily happens over time. Jesus created wine and bread. Both originate from plants which would have taken a long time to create, bake or ferment and would have required destruction of the original. However, both happened in an instant.


23 posted on 03/01/2009 6:23:58 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: RoadTest
The missing link is faith.

missing link = holy grail

24 posted on 03/01/2009 6:25:36 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: Salman

People who believe in evolution also believe in the Tooth Fairy. All seven of those and especially the bird reptile have been shown to be frauds. But the drumbeat goes on for their attempts to disprove God.

Pray for America and Our Troops


25 posted on 03/01/2009 6:26:12 AM PST by bray (Welcome to the USSA!)
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To: Salman
Yes, pics of drawings...

These are from the talkorigins website (Left is the "turkana boy" and left is another drawing of a homo sapiens.)

Wonder why they do a comparison next to a "typical" european type skull. Compare the "turkana boy" skul to the human head shape (actual photo) in the bottom left corner.

Humans come in a wonderful variety of shapes and sizes, and the skull is no different. The consensus of what is a "typical" homo sapiens skull is often presented when comparing man's so called ancestors, however, if one does a little research into skull shapes, you will find that the shapes vary greatly! This is the best that National Geographic's scientist can come up with? I am FAR from convinced! SCIENCE!!!

26 posted on 03/01/2009 6:26:43 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
"So evolution is just the same as a religion, so why is it promoted with tax dollars?"

fail

27 posted on 03/01/2009 6:27:03 AM PST by Kolb ("Man is not free unless government is limited." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jaxter

She had access to an Erga-nomic bicep machine.


28 posted on 03/01/2009 6:29:27 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

I realize that. Why did you not address my comment about churches never paying any tax money?


29 posted on 03/01/2009 6:31:22 AM PST by battletank
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To: Salman

where’s the spam guy?


30 posted on 03/01/2009 6:31:45 AM PST by Darwin Fish (God invented evolution. Man invented religeon.)
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To: wendy1946

"The history of most fossil species includes two features inconsistent with gradualism:

1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear ...

2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and 'fully formed'."

Stephen Jay Gould, Prof of Geology and
Paleontology, Harvard University
Natural History, 86(5):13, 1977


31 posted on 03/01/2009 6:31:50 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: battletank

Churches, like any charity, don’t have to pay taxes on income. Are you saying they should?


32 posted on 03/01/2009 6:36:24 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

All right, enough with the Helen Thomas pictures!


33 posted on 03/01/2009 6:37:08 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Kolb; mountainlion; chuck_the_tv_out; YHAOS; Fichori; tpanther; valkyry1; Mr. Silverback; ...
Did you even bother to read the first paragraph?

Did YOU ever read the article?

For the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth (February 12, 2009), National Geographic News asked leading scientists for their picks of the most important fossils that show evolution in action—seven of which are presented here, starting with this "fishapod."

Couple problems.....

First, is that there are no pictures of the fossils shown.

Second is the title of the article...."PHOTOS: 7 Major "Missing Links" Since Darwin"

It says *photos* instead of *drawings*.

Sheesh, a little accuracy and integrity in reporting from a publication that presents itself as *scientific* would be nice, for a change.

34 posted on 03/01/2009 6:37:50 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kolb

a monosyllabulic argument. most impressive for an evolutionist! lol!

listen to the EVIDENCE man. you’ve been indoctrinated with something that is NOT true, and is very much part of leftism.


35 posted on 03/01/2009 6:38:41 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: raybbr; mountainlion

Why try to hijack the thread?

Why not just discuss the topic on hand without trying to make an issue of it by going off topic?


36 posted on 03/01/2009 6:41:17 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jimmyray
Wonder why they do a comparison next to a "typical" european type skull. Compare the "turkana boy"

Just more leftarded racism and hate. They don't think the "turkana boy" is human, that's the fact.
37 posted on 03/01/2009 6:41:22 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Blogger

Excellent!


38 posted on 03/01/2009 6:42:03 AM PST by Mother Mary
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To: metmom

Indeed. Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 03/01/2009 6:43:16 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Larry Lucido
lol.


40 posted on 03/01/2009 6:43:26 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: bert; mountainlion
The problem basically boils down to ignorance. Ignorance can be solved by study of scientific works and by, most importantly, work in the lab or field.

The old *If only you really understood the ToE, then you'd believe it* canard.

And yes, it's a matter of believing that it's right.

Everything is. You believe what you're convinced of based on the evidence you see, science included.

41 posted on 03/01/2009 6:43:53 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Kolb; chuck_the_tv_out

What’s that got to do with what he said?

Can an evo ever stay on topic?


42 posted on 03/01/2009 6:44:54 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: gscc
Do you believe the earth is flat. Good chance you do if you believe in evolution.

A very foolish statement. I also notice you didn't answer my question.

43 posted on 03/01/2009 6:48:54 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: raybbr
Do you believe the Earth is only about ten thousand years old?

Depends on your relativisic point of reference...maybe this will help you understand if you're not too close-minded:

15 billion or six days? Today, we look at time going backward. We see 15 billion years. Looking forward from when the universe is very small - billions of times smaller - the Torah says six days. In truth, they both may be correct.

What's exciting about the last few years in cosmology is we now have quantified the data to know the relationship of the "view of time" from the beginning, relative to the "view of time" today. It's not science fiction any longer. Any one of a dozen physics text books all bring the same number. The general relationship between time near the beginning and time today is a million million. That's a 1 with 12 zeros after it. So when a view from the beginning looking forward says "I'm sending you a pulse every second," would we see it every second? No. We'd see it every million million seconds. Because that's the stretching effect of the expansion of the universe.

The Torah doesn't say every second, does it? It says Six Days. How would we see those six days? If the Torah says we're sending information for six days, would we receive that information as six days? No. We would receive that information as six million million days. Because the Torah's perspective is from the beginning looking forward.

Six million million days is a very interesting number. What would that be in years? Divide by 365 and it comes out to be 16 billion years. Essentially the estimate of the age of the universe. Not a bad guess for 3000 years ago.

The way these two figures match up is extraordinary. I'm not speaking as a theologian; I'm making a scientific claim. I didn't pull these numbers out of hat. That's why I led up to the explanation very slowly, so you can follow it step-by-step.

Now we can go one step further. Let's look at the development of time, day-by-day, based on the expansion factor. Every time the universe doubles, the perception of time is cut in half. Now when the universe was small, it was doubling very rapidly. But as the universe gets bigger, the doubling time gets exponentially longer. This rate of expansion is quoted in "The Principles of Physical Cosmology," a textbook that is used literally around the world.

(In case you want to know, this exponential rate of expansion has a specific number averaged at 10 to the 12th power. That is in fact the temperature of quark confinement, when matter freezes out of the energy: 10.9 times 10 to the 12th power Kelvin degrees divided by (or the ratio to) the temperature of the universe today, 2.73 degrees. That's the initial ratio which changes exponentially as the universe expands.)

The calculations come out to be as follows:

• The first of the Biblical days lasted 24 hours, viewed from the "beginning of time perspective." But the duration from our perspective was 8 billion years.

• The second day, from the Bible's perspective lasted 24 hours. From our perspective it lasted half of the previous day, 4 billion years.

• The third day also lasted half of the previous day, 2 billion years.

• The fourth day - one billion years.

• The fifth day - one-half billion years.

• The sixth day - one-quarter billion years.

When you add up the Six Days, you get the age of the universe at 15 and 3/4 billion years. The same as modern cosmology. Is it by chance?

But there's more. The Bible goes out on a limb and tells you what happened on each of those days. Now you can take cosmology, paleontology, archaeology, and look at the history of the world, and see whether or not they match up day-by-day. And I'll give you a hint. They match up close enough to send chills up your spine.

Go directly to Dr. Schroeder's book, Genesis and the Big Bang, at Amazon books.

Dr Gerald Schroeder received PhD's in Oceanography and Nuclear Physics from MIT, and was on their staff for seven years. He did extensive work with the Atomic Energy Commission. Dr. Schroeder now lives with his family in Jerusalem, Israel. He is the author of Genesis and the Big Bang and The Science of God, which has been translated into six languages.

44 posted on 03/01/2009 6:50:47 AM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Great picture of the Leggus Chomppi, the missing link between one and two legged people.


45 posted on 03/01/2009 6:53:11 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Fossilize Thomas’s bones and you got the missing link.
46 posted on 03/01/2009 6:57:42 AM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Mogollon

Here’s a summation: God created evolution. It’s what I believe.


47 posted on 03/01/2009 7:01:14 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: mountainlion

You left out the word “major”, that means there were many more but their ranks is personal opinion.


48 posted on 03/01/2009 7:09:17 AM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: scottinoc

So is gravity!!


49 posted on 03/01/2009 7:10:01 AM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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To: raybbr
Maybe he's a member of the flat earth society??
50 posted on 03/01/2009 7:11:53 AM PST by org.whodat (Auto unions bad: Machinists union good=Hypocrisy)
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