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Washington state to allow `dignity' deaths
Yahoo-AP ^ | 03/01/2009 | RACHEL LA CORTE

Posted on 03/01/2009 12:21:37 PM PST by greatdefender

OLYMPIA, Wash. – Terminally ill patients with less than six months to live will soon be able to ask their doctors to prescribe them lethal medication in Washington state.

But even though the "Death with Dignity" law takes effect Thursday, people who might seek the life-ending prescriptions could find their doctors conflicted or not willing to write them.

Many doctors are hesitant to talk publicly about where they stand on the issue, said Dr. Tom Preston, a retired cardiologist and board member of Compassion & Choices, the group that campaigned for and supports the law.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: assisted; assistedsuicide; bioethics; cultureofdeath; cultureofdisrespect; culturewar; deathindustry; eugenics; euthanasia; ghouls; hemlocksociety; hospice; killing; medicide; mercy; murder; suicide
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So much for "life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness"
1 posted on 03/01/2009 12:21:37 PM PST by greatdefender
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To: greatdefender

How soon before it becomes one’s duty to “die with dignity”?


2 posted on 03/01/2009 12:23:53 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (The First Black President of the US has sold me and my children into slavery.)
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To: greatdefender

Still in the introductory stages, death with dignity will be available on an optional basis “for a limited time only.”
After that it will be mandatory and paid by your tax dollars.


3 posted on 03/01/2009 12:24:38 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
How soon before it becomes one’s duty to “die with dignity”?

Isn't the real question "at what age". Healthcare costs are way to high so we need to lower the age again ...

4 posted on 03/01/2009 12:25:21 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: greatdefender

It is a matter of great concern to us Catholics here (real Catholics, I mean). The local Catholic hospital has announced they and their staff will not participate on any way, shape, or form. Obamurderer can try to force them but they won’t give in.


5 posted on 03/01/2009 12:25:43 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

If doctors can’t refuse to perform an abortion, and hospitals can’t refuse to make them available; and if pharmacists can’t refuse to dispense abortion pills—

how much longer before doctors can’t refuse to hand out poisons?


6 posted on 03/01/2009 12:25:50 PM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
After that it will be mandatory and paid by your tax dollars.

The EXIT FEE. We spiral to our demise

7 posted on 03/01/2009 12:27:19 PM PST by Knute
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To: greatdefender

My whole heart and soul rebels against the thought of such an action. Yet it’s a victimless crime: the suicide consents to his own death. It’s a foolish, miserable, tragic mistake on his part, but it is a victimless crime. Better to change peoples’ hearts and minds to respect and preserve their own lives than to throw people into prison for it.


8 posted on 03/01/2009 12:27:24 PM PST by CautiouslyHopeful
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To: greatdefender

And for a limited time only, physicians can opt out. After that it will be mandatory. No conscientious objectors will be permitted after the free trial period. Make your reservations early, or be prepared to prescribe lethal poisons to the useless eaters.


9 posted on 03/01/2009 12:27:27 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
How soon before it becomes one’s duty to “die with dignity”?

That's the problem with this, right there.

10 posted on 03/01/2009 12:29:20 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: greatdefender
Obama just announced he will ban religious conscience as a legal opt out for physicians not willing to murder babies.

Not much of a leap to mandating murdering the rest of us, especially when our medical care will cost Medicare too much. Nice political party, you got there, democrats. Could you be any more evil?


11 posted on 03/01/2009 12:29:24 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: steve86
It is a matter of great concern to us Catholics here (real Catholics, I mean). The local Catholic hospital has announced they and their staff will not participate on any way, shape, or form. Obamurderer can try to force them but they won’t give in.

The can choose to do the ethical thing.... CLOSE

12 posted on 03/01/2009 12:29:52 PM PST by Knute
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To: greatdefender
I see a new industry a-brewing..

..doctors who have no problems writing and administering the drugs.....

....they could build a wing onto the existing abortion room.

Their motto could be:

We'll take you out, coming or going....

13 posted on 03/01/2009 12:30:36 PM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Pretty much that’s his plan


14 posted on 03/01/2009 12:31:09 PM PST by greatdefender (If You Want Peace.....Prepare For War)
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To: CautiouslyHopeful

A victimless crime? You know, I was reading about another victimless crime yesterday. There was a link on drudgereport. Seems this guy who worked in the morgue was having sex with dead people. Nobody knows just how many, because it went on a long time. Who was HE hurting? Nobody.
You want to overturn that law? I doubt it.

And what we’re talking about here, euthanasia, is not a victimless crime. It devalues human life and takes us closer to a hell on earth where there is no right to life for anyone.


15 posted on 03/01/2009 12:34:19 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II -- overdue.)
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To: greatdefender
Sad how our Medical Expertise has advanced to the state that we can know extend the lives of those that would otherwise die, an extra six months to live in horrible pain.

Why is it "Conservative" to deny those that want to die that option?

16 posted on 03/01/2009 12:34:26 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Tarpon
Age will have less to do with it than one's perceived value to the collective. Imperfect newborn? Sorry. For the likes of Fat Teddy and his crowd? Spare no expense...

That's the problem with slippery slopes...there's always some self-imposed arbiter who determines whether or not you are to be given a shove or a sled.

17 posted on 03/01/2009 12:37:25 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (The First Black President of the US has sold me and my children into slavery.)
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To: greatdefender
Obama's policies amount to population control.

Reduce benefits to the elderly and allow the older, sicker ones to die. They are the ones most likely to be conservative in their viewpoints. Do you think it is just a coincidence that they are being targeted?

18 posted on 03/01/2009 12:37:53 PM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: Mygirlsmom

It becomes our duty when we defend the Constitution.


19 posted on 03/01/2009 12:40:41 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: greatdefender

Good. End of life decisions belong with the family... not the courts, church or state.


20 posted on 03/01/2009 12:41:18 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Did you do that Photoshop job with Frank Frazetta’s Death Dealer?


21 posted on 03/01/2009 12:42:52 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: greatdefender

It’s not really any of the gubmint’s business if someone wants to commit suicide. The only reason a doctor has to get involved at all is that the gubmint doesn’t let supposedly free people buy their own drugs. They must get a prescription. Suicide has been around forever.


22 posted on 03/01/2009 12:45:23 PM PST by Huck (Palin is perfect just where she is....in Alaska.)
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To: Doe Eyes

Because it’s fun to tell others how to live—or die.


23 posted on 03/01/2009 12:46:21 PM PST by Huck (Palin is perfect just where she is....in Alaska.)
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To: greatdefender
I guess these people might as well poison themselves to death since the liberals in WA state are going to let them die without treatment under ObamaMed.
24 posted on 03/01/2009 12:46:33 PM PST by RetiredArmy (STATES RIGHTS!!!! TO HELL WITH THE MARXIST FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Soylent Green ... They want the movie to be real ..


25 posted on 03/01/2009 12:48:49 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: wastedyears
Did you do that Photoshop job with Frank Frazetta’s Death Dealer?

I shamelessly stole the image.

26 posted on 03/01/2009 12:50:35 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

It’s a pretty good job, what with putting a donkey head on the horse.


27 posted on 03/01/2009 12:53:05 PM PST by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: Doe Eyes
Good lord , the utter nerve of you to post that comment.
Are you actually try to PUSH this dangerous law and this culture of death!

Do you have any idea of how this law can be abused by
greedy relatives and their lawyers to kill off granny for her assets ????
Or cut off expensive experimental drugs because the hospital or doctor or relatives want to save on there costs ???
Lets me tell ya something , a relative of mine was told he had three months to live by the all knowing Doctors .
He survived for four more years and saw the world by ignoring there advice and continuing treatments !

28 posted on 03/01/2009 12:53:32 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: greatdefender

The so-called “death with dignity” crowd can kiss my ass. I’m not leaving this movie until the “End Titles” are finished rolling.


29 posted on 03/01/2009 12:58:12 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: greatdefender
I can think of a whole bunch to send there with terminal liberalism
30 posted on 03/01/2009 12:59:04 PM PST by Cheetahcat (Osamabama the Wright kind of Racist!)
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To: greatdefender

the camel’s nose is under the tent. they will push for more just as soon as everyone’s accepted this


31 posted on 03/01/2009 1:00:21 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: CautiouslyHopeful
Yet it’s a victimless crime: the suicide consents to his own death.

There are victims to doctor assisted suicide. The doctor forced to make the prescription, the nurses forced to take part, the family members who believe in life over death and the society which holds life in such contempt.

32 posted on 03/01/2009 1:05:49 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: Doe Eyes

They are forcing other people to kill. If we want to end your life, do it yourself.


33 posted on 03/01/2009 1:06:12 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Mygirlsmom

As soon as Obama rams through socialized healthcare. “Dying with dignity” will become everyone’s patriotic duty so as to save vital government resources for younger, more healthier people who have a higher economic value to the state.


34 posted on 03/01/2009 1:06:58 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Let me warn you that the Hospice is the biggest scam of them all !
These vultures flew around around my relative hoping for a big donation by helping bump him off early with the help of the hospital that wanted to cut there losses on his treatments ( he had Medicare).
Hospice wanted to move in right in after the 3 to 6 month diagnosis .
I told them to shove it on the phone.
Fours years later and three overseas trips later he died on his own in his own bed not in some hospice.


35 posted on 03/01/2009 1:07:02 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

exactly.


36 posted on 03/01/2009 1:07:56 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: Tarpon

"I'll get the full 20 minutes?"

"Of course, now drink your Obamaberry Koolaid."

37 posted on 03/01/2009 1:10:14 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

HeHeHe ... I remember that scene in the viewing room, showing pictures of the vistas, flowers and didn’t you get to pick your lighting color as well.


38 posted on 03/01/2009 1:13:10 PM PST by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: steve86

Well I wont back down, no I wont back down
You can stand me up at the gates of hell
But I wont back down

Gonna stand my ground, wont be turned around
And Ill keep this world from draggin me down
Gonna stand my ground and I wont back down

Hey baby, there aint no easy way out
Hey I will stand my ground
And I wont back down.

Well I know whats right, I got just one life
In a world that keeps on pushin me around
But Ill stand my ground and I wont back down

Hey baby there aint no easy way out
Hey I will stand my ground
And I wont back down
No, I wont back down


40 posted on 03/01/2009 1:25:44 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Doe Eyes
What a self righteous comment! Taking joy in the painful deaths of others? Just because there are some who have ethical questions concerning the “other” victims of this “victimless” crime, don't deserve to be callously branded as being uncaring.
41 posted on 03/01/2009 1:35:35 PM PST by TheBlueMax (International ANSWER? They don't even understand the question!)
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To: Doe Eyes
You are too oblivious the realize the real agenda behind this law.
I know a whole hell of alot more than your do about watching people suffer.
I have worked in healthcare for 25 years.
You are a fool who falls for phony emotional propaganda peddled by the Obama crowd/ Obama media ‘s culture of death crowd.
The one thing almost all have of us has is the drive to stay alive until the bitter end.
You are to stupid to realize once the state enacts laws to promote early death the end result will be a new early death industry springs which springs into action.
You better hope a greedy relative does not use the same law in the far future to push you into a early grave.
I have seen it tried many times !
42 posted on 03/01/2009 1:37:07 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: ncalburt
Let me warn you that the Hospice is the biggest scam of them all!

I'm sorry your hospice experience involved a less than ethical hospice. I work for a combination home health/hospice agency, and we gain no financial benefit in moving someone from home health care to hospice care. We never pressure any patient or family member to elect hospice, and our reputation in the community speaks for itself. Clients choose us; we don't have to actively recruit patients to our agency.

Please don't be so quick to judge all hospices based on that one incident.
43 posted on 03/01/2009 1:42:54 PM PST by tundrachick
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To: greatdefender

I believe this whole “dignity death” thing is driven largely by $$$ pure and simple. In Obamaland, the elderly, sick, and those born with serious birth defects will be encouraged and pressured to snuff themselves out so the central planners of our neo-Marxist economies (including state level) can claim balance sheet victories. When the central planners don’t get enough volunteers, they’ll move to Plan B: euthanasia of the unwilling.


44 posted on 03/01/2009 1:43:23 PM PST by behzinlea
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

45 posted on 03/01/2009 1:43:38 PM PST by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: greatdefender

Comment removed by ... ME!
As I don not wish to be banned or suspended.
(but these people are really sick evil)


47 posted on 03/01/2009 1:51:27 PM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Drango

I understand your point, but some of these ‘die with dignity organizations’ target those who are dying. They used to send a family member who was sick (but had alot of life in him still) literature with detailed steps and methods on how to take his own life. There was alot of convincing info for those who were depressed or confused about a life long illness, giving them plenty of reasons to take their life. I think they preyed on them before their time. It was illegal in this particular state, so I contacted them and told them to never send another piece of literature again. This family member lived another 20 years.


48 posted on 03/01/2009 1:54:42 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Tarpon

That was a great scene. Edward G. Robinson had terminal cancer at the time, and died shortly thereafter.


49 posted on 03/01/2009 1:55:47 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mygirlsmom

Washington state to allow `dignity’ deaths

In order of who will be ‘allowed to die with dignity’:
1) terminally ill
2) elderly
3) physically disabled
4) handicapped
5) overweight
6) non-productive


50 posted on 03/01/2009 1:59:34 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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