Skip to comments.Radio chip coming soon to your driver's license?
Posted on 03/01/2009 3:12:39 PM PST by Lucky9teen
Privacy advocates are issuing warnings about a new radio chip plan that ultimately could provide electronic identification for every adult in the U.S. and allow agents to compile attendance lists at anti-government rallies simply by walking through the assembly.
The proposal, which has earned the support of Janet Napolitano, the newly chosen chief of the Department of Homeland Security, would embed radio chips in driver's licenses, or "enhanced driver's licenses."
"Enhanced driver's licenses give confidence that the person holding the card is the person who is supposed to be holding the card, and it's less elaborate than REAL ID," Napolitano said in a Washington Times report.
REAL ID is a plan for a federal identification system standardized across the nation that so alarmed governors many states have adopted formal plans to oppose it. However, a privacy advocate today told WND that the EDLs are many times worse.
Radio talk show host and identity chip expert Katherine Albrecht said REAL ID earned the opposition of Christians because of its resemblance to the biblical "mark of the beast," civil libertarians opposed it for its "big brother" connotations and others worried about identity theft issues with the proposed databases.
"We got rid of the REAL ID program, but [this one] is way more insidious," she said.
Enhanced driver's licenses have built-in radio chips providing an identifying number or information that can be accessed by a remote reading unit while the license is inside a wallet or purse.
The technology already had been implemented in Washington state, where it is promoted as an alternative to a passport for traveling to Canada. So far, the program is optional.
But there are other agreements already approved with Michigan, Vermont, New York and Arizona, and plans are under way in other states, including Texas, she said.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
They have a poll, but you have to have a WND account.
Texas on the list???? Geezz
But of course these enhanced drivers licenses will not be required to vote...
Imagine if they were all wrapped in aluminum foil? The jackboots would walk through the crowd and be stumped.
Eggs Ackley my thoughts too! Faraday wallets!
Sadly, this is but one of many initiatives Hussein and his high-tech Islamo-Stalinists are contemplating.
This is not the system I swore to defend and protect. We need a U.S. Franco to sweep away the liberal fascist vermin and their s**t.
This scares the you know what out of me....
What about putting the drivers licence in the microwave for 5 seconds?
And if you’re caught doing it Hussein Obongo and his thugs will put YOU in a microwave oven.
I gotta wonder how stupid thinks it’s easier to make sure the person holding the license is the person the license belongs to. Unless there’s a matching chip embedded in the person, there’s no way to ensure the right person has the right license. Napolitano is a dummie..........
What they're trying to say is that they can read your driver's license without your permission. They could just use bar codes like some states already do, but then they'd have to ask the license owner permission to read their card. Protest and the state will give you their pat answer, "well, don't get one then". This will last as long as it takes for someone to hack the RFIDs.
Where can a bulk eraser be found?
After the deed is done, it would be best just to plead ignorant.
Oh yes way.
Compile attendance lists at anti-government rallies? You Betcha. They will do this. They have to have full control. No fight. No guns. No freedom. No jobs.
And they accuse the right of being the “no” party?
We can take up a collection :)
as long as they become required to cast a vote- I’m in
If not, stuff them
In Washington State, not only does the enhanced lkicense have the radio antella, your photo is also one of the new biometic ID varieties. Anybody know any ways to render them useless?
Damn RFID chips... always getting burned up and becoming non-functional. Damn!
The RFID tags I've seen from 1990 on generally store energy from a received RF burst and emit an RF signal, typically conveying a fixed unique N-bit code. A microwave oven *might* damage these; a mini-EMP generator could also (I am guessing).
how about a hammer?
Tape the license to some one elses vehicle. Take the hit on the fine if caught driving without one. “oops it must have fallen out of my wallet/purse, officer.”
Pay for a new one (expensive, I know) Repeat often enuff to mess with the thought police.
Large, powerful magnet work just as well?
Radio Shack. Bought one there a few years back. But see my caveat on this thread.
Strong fields but very low frequency. The chip’s antenna might not pick up enough energy.
I dunno. I think the combination of microwaves and RFID might accidentally signal a far off galaxy that we are willing to go to war with them. Might not be a good idea.
Just because it is on your license does not mean that you have to carry it everywhere you go.
If you happen to go to a rally, leave your license in your car. Scan the crowd all you want, but if nothing shows. What or who went to the rally.
Big Brother is scanning you.
Don’t worry, all those people who have their panties in a knot over intercepting enemy communications will be leading the charge against this. Any minute now. Coming right up. Just another second before they begin...
Calamity and Crisis !!!!!!! the cards chips fail. EMP hackers etc...
Success!!!! the implant chip is fail proof! ....... sleeeeeeeeeep.....
I'm slightly confused. Do you mean General Franco as in the Spanish civil war General Franco?
Because I don't think our own version of the Spanish civil war is the cure for what ails us...communists versus (Franco-led) fascists...not much of a choice.
I stopped reading the article when I saw "WND".
It looks to me like another in a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evincing a design to reduce us under absolute Despotism...
**REAL ID earned the opposition of Christians because of its resemblance to the biblical “mark of the beast,” **
First thing I thought of.
Don't get an enhanced license. The Washington enhanced license is offered as an alternative to using a passport for crossing into Canada via car or boat. It is intended for people that make frequent trips and want an appropriate ID to put in their wallet.
If you don't want/need an enhanced license for border crossing, don't get one. The regular Washington license is a run of the mill variety license.
Raybbr are you doing a Vulcan mind scan on me? I had the tinfoil idea at the same time.
Think I’ll carry one of those cattle eartag radios in my wallet along with tinfoil DL. “Uh, we have Mr. Moo in the third row waving the Join or Die flag”.
How does this interact with the 4A?
It has already been established that IR scans to detect pot growing operations are illegal.
Now there is the fine point of law that you already know about the RFID chip in the license or passport and it could turn out that a passport is legal and a license not, but those RFID scanners can work a distances greater than 33 feet.
I just plain don’t like the idea of being identified at a distance by the government.
Interesting question. I wouldn't be surprised if the government argument would be based on the license being property of the government.
Reasonable expectation of privacy and free movement would be the counter to that argument.
Anvil. Hammer. Solved.
Much better. LOL
History has been unfair to Franco. He has been pigeon-holed as a fascist by the tenured Marxists who dominate “higher education.”
Franco stopped a Communist revolution. Lamentably, given the unique circumstances of the 1930s, he also had no choice but to make an accommodation with Hitler. This was a pragmatic decision to protect a modicum of independence for Spain.
In the end, Franco stamped out Communism. Was he, at times, brutal? Undoubtedly. But sometimes you have to be brutal when stamping out an inhuman internal enemy—precisely what we’re facing in this country.
Give me a ticket for “No License In Possession”!