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Porn in the USA: Conservatives Are Biggest Consumers
ABC News ^ | Feb. 28, 2009 | EWEN CALLAWAY

Posted on 03/01/2009 9:44:20 PM PST by Conservativism

A new study shows that states that consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption.

"When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different," says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School.

However, there are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

"Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by," Edelman says.

Edelman spends part of his time helping companies such as Microsoft and AOL detect advertising fraud. Another consulting client runs dozens of adult websites, though he says he is not at liberty to identify the firm.

That company provided Edelman with roughly two years of credit card data from 2006 to 2008 that included a purchase date and each customer's postal code.

After controlling for differences in broadband internet access between states – online porn tends to be a bandwidth hog – and adjusting for population, he found a relatively small difference between states with the most adult purchases and those with the fewest.

The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users; Montana bought the least with 1.92 per 1000. "The differences here are not so stark," Edelman says.

Number 10 on the list was West Virginia at 2.94 subscriptions per 1000, while number 41, Michigan, averaged 2.32.

Eight of the top 10 pornography consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year's presidential election – Florida and Hawaii were the exceptions. While six out of the lowest 10 favoured Barack Obama.

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1 posted on 03/01/2009 9:44:20 PM PST by Conservativism
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To: Conservativism

Worst.

“Reporting.”

Ever.


2 posted on 03/01/2009 9:45:57 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Conservativism

I find porn has completely destroyed my expectation of women.


3 posted on 03/01/2009 9:47:11 PM PST by exist
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To: Conservativism

No.


4 posted on 03/01/2009 9:47:19 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Conservativism

Man the life boats BS!


5 posted on 03/01/2009 9:47:40 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Conservativism

A belated welcome to FreeRepublic.com


6 posted on 03/01/2009 9:47:49 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FormerACLUmember
That company provided Edelman with roughly two years of credit card data from 2006 to 2008 that included a purchase date and each customer's postal code.

I can't wait for the stories that come out once all our medical records are on-line for national health care.

-PJ

7 posted on 03/01/2009 9:48:20 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Conservativism

I’d imagine demand is satisfied through a wider variety of other venues in states that are not conservative.

This is just a thinly veiled attempt at using the “hypocrite” smear, against those who have the least reason for concern about being called such.


8 posted on 03/01/2009 9:48:28 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Conservativism

the center of the porn industry is in the San Fernando Valley, California. Johnny Holmes murder took place 1/2 mile away from my stepfathers home. The bulk of this industry is in a VERY LIBERAL area called Los Angeles County.


9 posted on 03/01/2009 9:48:37 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: exist
I find porn has completely destroyed my expectation of women.

Me, too!

LOL.

10 posted on 03/01/2009 9:49:11 PM PST by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: Conservativism

THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICTURES.


11 posted on 03/01/2009 9:49:44 PM PST by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: Conservativism

Personally, I’d be happy if ABCsnooze and the rest of the Drivebys would LEARN THE DIFFERENCE between a REPUBLICAN and a CONSERVATIVE.

You want Porn, ..go for it.. none of my BUSINESS... unlike the LIBS at ABC Snooze.


12 posted on 03/01/2009 9:50:25 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (WE THE PEOPLE Demand TALK RADIO to be our 1st Amendment MEDIA WATCHDOG!!!)
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To: SIDENET

13 posted on 03/01/2009 9:51:32 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Conservativism

This “study” draws too much conclusion from too little data. The facts presented do not exclude the possibility that liberals living in red states (that is, the minority) download porn because their neighbors aren’t into swinging, while liberals living in blue states don’t need porn because of all the parties they go to every day. Maybe this is unlikely, admittedly, but not excluded by this very poor study.


14 posted on 03/01/2009 9:52:27 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Cindy

I just love how all the new sign-ups have such conservative-sounding handles.

Sly foxes, these trolls are.


15 posted on 03/01/2009 9:54:06 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Conservativism

I could honestly say that i have never thought there could be a difference in liberal versus conservative porn consumption.....hmmmm...i don’t make it a habit of discussing hardcore stuff that i have previewed occasionally...kind of an uncomfortable subject to be honest....i don’t judge either way...cause i’d be a hippocrit.


16 posted on 03/01/2009 9:54:40 PM PST by chasio649
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To: ari-freedom
Young naked hot chicks (a whole bunch of them):


17 posted on 03/01/2009 9:55:15 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Conservativism

“A new study shows that states that consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption. “

But they are only talking about internet porn.

I don’t know but I’d assume conservative and religious states have less opportunity for porn other than the internet. I’d also assume that those states have a significant number of people who aren’t religious and conservative, and if those people want porn their opportunities are limited to the internet so internet porn usage would be more pervasive than in states with other opportunities.


18 posted on 03/01/2009 9:55:19 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: coloradan

or maybe they are really human, succumb to temptation and if they feel like doing something wrong, they would rather check out porn than commit adultery with real women.


19 posted on 03/01/2009 9:55:21 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: coloradan
Hot and saucy chicks:

20 posted on 03/01/2009 9:57:01 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Conservativism

ABC aka Disney making up stories about porn. Like their semi-kiddie porn with Hannah Montana and their “kid” shows? Their ownership of Hollywood Pictures and other involvement in questinable cinema?

Disney is not Walt’s Disney. After Walt died it turned to crap.


21 posted on 03/01/2009 9:57:02 PM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Conservativism
He is measuring credit card receipts...not consumption.

Please don't ask (or even wonder) how I might know this...but I, uhm, undestand one can get porn on the net withoug paying for it.

22 posted on 03/01/2009 9:57:05 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Conservativism
The red blooded conservative capitalists pay for their porn.

The real perverts and pedophiles use file sharing to download their porn.

23 posted on 03/01/2009 9:58:14 PM PST by smokingfrog ( Dear Mr. Obama - Please make it rain candy! P.S. I like jelly beans.)
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To: coloradan
Odd that they're bandying their biased little stats about, as if pornography were (gasp!) bad or something. Aren't these guys all for it? What's with the judgmental stuff, lol?

As far as your contention of more real life opportunity in liberal bastions, I'd think STD stats would bear that out.

24 posted on 03/01/2009 9:59:34 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I’d imagine demand is satisfied through a wider variety of other venues in states that are not conservative.

Cities are leftist strongholds. Porn is readily available everywhere in cities.

In the country... not so much. So they get their porn from their computer.

It's not real complicated. Which is why this "study" isn't real news.

25 posted on 03/01/2009 9:59:55 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: smokingfrog

Haha, I like this explanation best. You may be on to something.


26 posted on 03/01/2009 10:00:08 PM PST by Conservativism
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To: Cindy

Thanks Cindy


27 posted on 03/01/2009 10:00:35 PM PST by Conservativism
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To: Conservativism

It could be because those living in cities like San Francisco have easy access to all types of lewd entertainment and don’t need the internet.


28 posted on 03/01/2009 10:01:26 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: ari-freedom
Jugs.

29 posted on 03/01/2009 10:01:51 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Pair of Hooters


30 posted on 03/01/2009 10:05:01 PM PST by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: ari-freedom
That was just wrong.

;-)

31 posted on 03/01/2009 10:05:35 PM PST by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: exist

Really? That’s sad.


32 posted on 03/01/2009 10:06:08 PM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

And this is why the stimulus bill will bring broadband to rural areas, equal opportunity porn!


33 posted on 03/01/2009 10:07:15 PM PST by bigbob (-)
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To: Conservativism; admin
For some reason this poster left out the first sentence:

"A new nationwide study of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states."

34 posted on 03/01/2009 10:11:14 PM PST by NoLibZone (To save our nation a strongly worded e-mail is in order!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Agreed. This thread would be best suited for a DU mesage board. Interestingly enough:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:conservativism/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change


35 posted on 03/01/2009 10:11:30 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

The troll even edited the story removing the very first sentence!


36 posted on 03/01/2009 10:12:21 PM PST by NoLibZone (To save our nation a strongly worded e-mail is in order!)
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To: ari-freedom

37 posted on 03/01/2009 10:12:55 PM PST by SIDENET (I am just a monkey man, I'm glad you are a monkey woman, too.)
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To: ari-freedom
Kinda looks like my Chuncheon wings.
38 posted on 03/01/2009 10:13:24 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Riding the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon drama at a time!)
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To: NoLibZone

You’re right. I had to pare it down to 300 words and thought that was encompassed in this: “”When it comes to adult entertainment, it seems people are more the same than different,” says Benjamin Edelman at Harvard Business School.” I also thought the mention about very little variation at the end got that point across without misconstruing the meaning of the article.


39 posted on 03/01/2009 10:14:15 PM PST by Conservativism
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To: bigbob

“Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says.

-Obviously, this researcher is not smart enough to do the research he claims to. Otherwise, he wouldn’t make this circular assumption. The porn they are counting, is that per capita or total volume? I would have to believe it is per capita as I find it hard to believe that Alabama consumes more porn than New York or California. That being said, per capita consumption according to Edelman must be distributed evenly across the populace of the state. He actually does this twice. He assumes that everyone is watching at least a little bit of porn and everyone is attending at least a little bit of church. Both assumptions are erroneous.

My hypothesis would be different. My guess here is that in states that Edelman characterizes as ‘religious’ have had a stronger voice in public concern over adult book stores, adult relaxation centers and other ‘blue businesses’. Because of this, there are less outlets in less locations. Therefore, those who may be ‘non-religious’ feel trapped in a ‘religious’ or more accurately ‘restricted access’ state. This forces the end users of such businesses to resort to accessing pornography and accessing it more often than similarly predisposed people in states with less ‘restricted access’ to the materials or blue businesses. This forces them to access product in a fashion that can be counted by Edelman, and to access it much more frequently.

The assumption that people who attend church are secret hypocrits accessing porn when they get home from church is a huge leap from the data available. While it is almost certain that at least some church goers access porn, the preachy leap to mocking disbelief only serves to uncover a biased agenda in the research thereby reducing the reliability of the research and the researcher.


40 posted on 03/01/2009 10:21:47 PM PST by johnnycap
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To: Conservativism

Conservatives look at porn?

Say it ain’t so, Joe!

I’ve been lookin’ for tasteful nudes of several female Fox News babes for a long time. Anybody got any?

Just kidding.

(not kidding...email me)

Just kidding, really. 0:)

(sorta)


41 posted on 03/01/2009 10:22:21 PM PST by Boucheau
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I think you hit the nail on the head.


42 posted on 03/01/2009 10:25:30 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: LukeL
Headlights:


43 posted on 03/01/2009 10:26:53 PM PST by lowbridge ("a little state control wouldn't hurt anybody" - Jerry Brown on the First Amendment)
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To: Conservativism

“Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by,” Edelman says. “ I find this statement to be somewhat true you know like Tom Daschle giving a speech on tax cheaters on the house floor how not paying your taxes cheats us all. and we all know he is a tax cheater.
Did the credit card statements divulge if the person was conservative or liberal or how they voted if not than you cant use that as a threshold as far as I am concerned. That is like saying everyone in SF is gay and liberal and is in favor of gay marriage that is not true.


44 posted on 03/01/2009 10:49:25 PM PST by bzybee
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To: lowbridge

Long Dong.

45 posted on 03/01/2009 10:50:24 PM PST by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: Tamar1973
no, this kinda looks like your wings:

:)
46 posted on 03/01/2009 11:01:25 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: SIDENET

I know. I know. Chickens should be sitting in lots of hot oil, never water, unless it’s with lots of carrots, parsnips, onions and dill.


47 posted on 03/01/2009 11:07:00 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Conservativism

Saw this posted on DU (yeah, I go there all of the time). Problems:

1) It looks at one particular source of porn revenue and excludes others
2) It assumes that the people buying this porn are conservative because they are in “red states”

I don’t think any reputable statistician would derive the conclusion “conservatives buy more porn” from this data alone. The statistics are too narrow in their range and too broad in their conclusions.


48 posted on 03/01/2009 11:18:52 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

hmm what do you call a noob who posts articles about porn?


49 posted on 03/01/2009 11:20:41 PM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: AndyTheBear

I searched “sex” on my browser when I first got Internet in my house, to see what you could get without providing proof of age or a credit card. Well, I easily saw the hardest core porn I’d ever seen in absolutely no time at all. Ok, if I think about it, I’ve seen two worse photos - one at a dumpster at work, one in an alley in SF. Other than that, no contest.

I quickly realized my kids could access the most explicit stuff I could ever imagine without proving their age or paying a thin dime.

So, the computer stays in the main room of the house, and I check the history FREQUENTLY. Also we’ve made clear our attitude towards pornography and the reason we don’t seek it out.


50 posted on 03/01/2009 11:56:49 PM PST by Marie2 (Ora et labora)
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